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mibs 03-24-2013 10:58 AM

Bruins future goaltending
 
Hi all,

First of all, I am a Habs fan so please don't hold back on the insults and hurtful comments;)

My question is what will the Bruins do in the future regarding their goaldenters.

With the fallout with Thomas, I see Rask as the unanimous Starter and possibly the long term solution. Khudobin as Rask's backup since I don't believe he would be able to surpass him on the depth chart. But now things get a little intereseting with the drafting of Malcom Subban.

Knowing that goaltenders are incredibly hard to predict, but if all of these goalies achieve their potential, we would have Rask as a starter, SUbban as a starter, and Kudobin as an NHL goalie.

Now considering that both Rask and Subban haven't established themselves as the unanimous long term goalie in the near future ( Probably 3-4 year from not at least), the Bruins might want to hang on to them both and roll them as a 1A and 1B type of situation, ala Vancouver is doing currently. But we know that starting golatenders want to start and might look elsewhere for the opportunity, leading to an eventual trade.

Should the Bruins bank of Subban's potential and trade a proven Rask for a Proven nhl player, or should they gamble on subban and the return he nets them(Personally feels it would be a top 4 dman or top 6 foward prospect with similar upside)?

Thanks

WBC8 03-24-2013 10:59 AM

My money is on Svedberg being Boston's #1 in 14-15.

Actp 03-24-2013 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by WhamBamCam8 (Post 62285583)
My money is on Svedberg being Boston's #1 in 14-15.

I haven't seen Svedberg but I really, really do not think Claude trusts Tuukka. ... Khudobin is almost surely gone, so I agree, particularly if Svedberg has one more very good year in the AHL.

4ORRBRUIN 03-24-2013 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by WhamBamCam8 (Post 62285583)
My money is on Svedberg being Boston's #1 in 14-15.

This kid is the real deal. It will be interesting to see what the Bs do concerning Rask's contract. I say they will move him if the right deal comes along.

I must admit I'm not a believer in Rask

thornton22 03-24-2013 11:41 AM

I think we'll see Rask as our starter and Svedberg as a back-up, Khudobin being a UFA will probably want to be a starting goalie somewhere else. From what I've seen of Svedberg in Providence, he is fantastic and will make a solid back-up goalie, but I don't see (or ever want to see) Rask going anywhere else. Honestly I'm really surprised at the amount of people who don't have confidence in Rask, he is one of the best goalies in the NHL and the poor guy can't seem to catch a break. I'm looking at NHL stats right now and he's 3rd in GAA (1.90), 2nd in save % (.928), 4th in wins, and tied for 5th in shutouts. If that's not a goalie who we can be confident with, then show me one who is, and don't say Tim Thomas.

Ratty 03-24-2013 11:42 AM

Khudobin, off his play thusfar this season and his prior success with the Wild, will be looking for a starter's job either here or in the KHL. That's why it's refreshing to know that Svedberg is in training to take his spot should that scenario occur.

Subban is either trade bait or a few years away from an NHL appearance, let alone a starter's job.

Zdeno33Lucic 03-24-2013 12:07 PM

Everyone makes me laugh, Tuukka rask is one of the best goalies in the league, and hes top 3 in G.A.A and SV%.

Hes in the running for the vezina and is still pretty young!

Rask is the bruins future.

Bruins 54 03-24-2013 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dougie27Seguin19 (Post 62288473)
Everyone makes me laugh, Tuukka rask is one of the best goalies in the league, and hes top 3 in G.A.A and SV%.

Hes in the running for the vezina and is still pretty young!

Rask is the bruins future.


Exactly, why even start a thread like this when goaltending is the least of our problems, why bring the future into question when it isnt? :shakehead

Kovi 03-24-2013 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bruins 54 (Post 62288655)
Exactly, why even start a thread like this when goaltending is the least of our problems, why bring the future into question when it isnt? :shakehead

I didnt read his thread or post as saying it was a "problem".
I think he was saying where do we put our emphasis with the up and comers.

but thats just my take.

WBC8 03-24-2013 12:23 PM

I just watched Claude start Khudobin two games in a row because of Rask's lack of concentration in the Jets game...I've seen Claude go with Thomas over him for a dozen straight games even when Timmy wasn't at his best...I have seen Rask pitch a shut out and not get another start for two weeks.

There is obviously something that Claude is not comfortable with. I have no idea what it could be, but if Chiarelli and Neely feel the same way, maybe two years from now we go with Subban or Svedberg. I *think* Chia inks him long term, but to be honest I thought it would be done by now.

4ORRBRUIN 03-24-2013 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by WhamBamCam8 (Post 62289139)
I just watched Claude start Khudobin two games in a row because of Rask's lack of concentration in the Jets game...I've seen Claude go with Thomas over him for a dozen straight games even when Timmy wasn't at his best...I have seen Rask pitch a shut out and not get another start for two weeks.

There is obviously something that Claude is not comfortable with. I have no idea what it could be, but if Chiarelli and Neely feel the same way, maybe two years from now we go with Subban or Svedberg. I *think* Chia inks him long term, but to be honest I thought it would be done by now.

Is that weighing on Rask ? I would still wait and see how this season shakes out before I resign him long term.

unifiedtheory 03-24-2013 12:29 PM

Rask signs 5 for $25 million in the summer, Svenberg backs up, Dobby goes too Russia, Subban gets the time he needs to develop properly (see: Schneider, Cory).

don 03-24-2013 12:40 PM

I like both Rask and Khudobin equal, however, with Svedberg on the horizon, I would not be against trading one of them. My preference would be to keep Rask. As far as Subban goes, I want to wait and see how he develops..........unless the right deal comes along.

Scruffy 03-24-2013 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhamBamCam8 (Post 62289139)
I just watched Claude start Khudobin two games in a row because of Rask's lack of concentration in the Jets game...I've seen Claude go with Thomas over him for a dozen straight games even when Timmy wasn't at his best...I have seen Rask pitch a shut out and not get another start for two weeks.

There is obviously something that Claude is not comfortable with. I have no idea what it could be, but if Chiarelli and Neely feel the same way, maybe two years from now we go with Subban or Svedberg. I *think* Chia inks him long term, but to be honest I thought it would be done by now.

Or maybe Claude is just stubborn and is mad that Timmy took a sabbatical so he's taking it out on Rask. It's kind of hard to replace the best goalie that this franchise has ever seen, and Rask is doing a pretty damn good job. Yes he makes mistakes from time to time, but no goalie is perfect.

Also, Claude's judgement isn't above reproach. He's been playing the Corpse of Pandolfo for way too long now and he also is too slow and/or incapable of changing things up on the fly.

Rask is not the problem. Only scoring 1-2 goals a game is the problem.

Dr Quincy 03-24-2013 01:22 PM

Unless Svedberg is getting 30+ starts, it makes no sense to have him in Boston next year.

2 possibilities here:

1) Rask has a decent rest of the year and a decent enough playoff to make you think he's your #1 goalie and you should invest in him.

In that case, you let Khudo walk, sign a bargain basement back up for 1 year and let Rask and Svedberg each be #1 guys on their respective teams.

2) Rask falters. You either deal his rights, or resign him to a fairly short term/affordable deal and let he and Svedberg battle it out next year. Splitting time 50-30 for whoever wins.

northeastern 03-24-2013 01:22 PM

I bet this team rides rask for a while, long while. then moves onto subban.

Svenberg will be the backup next year when dobby leaves to where ever. But I wouldn't be surprised if dobby is traded this season.

NastyNate17 03-24-2013 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by northeastern (Post 62292007)
I bet this team rides rask for a while, long while. then moves onto subban.

Svenberg will be the backup next year when dobby leaves to where ever. But I wouldn't be surprised if dobby is traded this season.

Subban and Rask would be a sweet tandem assuming MS pans out according to plan.. And eventually hand reigns to Subban but the kids only what 19? He's got a long way to go before he's even nhl ready

NastyNate17 03-24-2013 01:42 PM

Also think Svedberg will be a very interesting follow based on his numbers he looks like he could be something special

Cory Trevor 03-24-2013 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by unifiedtheory (Post 62289407)
Rask signs 5 for $25 million in the summer, Svenberg backs up, Dobby goes too Russia, Subban gets the time he needs to develop properly (see: Schneider, Cory).

Rask is going to be looking to make Carey Price money.

I'd like to see Dobby back but it won't happen. He will find a job somewhere else whether it be stateside or otherwise.

Svedberg is the real deal from what it looks like. Subban's a long way out.

WBC8 03-24-2013 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cory Trevor (Post 62296115)
Rask is going to be looking to make Carey Price money.

I'd like to see Dobby back but it won't happen. He will find a job somewhere else whether it be stateside or otherwise.

Svedberg is the real deal from what it looks like. Subban's a long way out.

No way Rask gets 6.5 mil IMO.

Cory Trevor 03-24-2013 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by WhamBamCam8 (Post 62296233)
No way Rask gets 6.5 mil IMO.

Adjusted for future rises in comparable contracts, he's near the top of the NHL in every statistical category save for shutouts, coming into his prime, and on the open market, someone would pay it.

WBC8 03-24-2013 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cory Trevor (Post 62296563)
Adjusted for future rises in comparable contracts, he's near the top of the NHL in every statistical category save for shutouts, coming into his prime, and on the open market, someone would pay it.

As long as that someone isn't the Bruins, that's fine with me...already a few overpaid guys on this payroll. :)

mibs 03-24-2013 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruins 54 (Post 62288655)
Exactly, why even start a thread like this when goaltending is the least of our problems, why bring the future into question when it isnt? :shakehead

At no point in my OP did I ever mention the goaltending situation was in trouble... I'm pretty sure having 3 NHL calibre is a good thing. I also explained in my OP that there is no immediate need to do anything since Subban is still 3-4 year from even being considered playing in the NHL. I'm all for keeping all goalies until management knows for sure who will be their guy, then trade the others for positional needs.

What I'm asking is with a young starter like Rask, a goalie with big potential in Subban, and now with Svedberg who also looks promising, would the Bruins consider trading a proven asset in Rask for another proven asset meaning they fully believe in Svedberg and Subban, or kep Rask and trade Subban for another top prospect, say like a Saad from Chicago.

Thanks

Cory Trevor 03-24-2013 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mibs (Post 62296915)
At no point in my OP did I ever mention the goaltending situation was in trouble... I'm pretty sure having 3 NHL calibre is a good thing. I also explained in my OP that there is no immediate need to do anything since Subban is still 3-4 year from even being considered playing in the NHL. I'm all for keeping all goalies until management knows for sure who will be their guy, then trade the others for positional needs.

What I'm asking is with a young starter like Rask, a goalie with big potential in Subban, and now with Svedberg who also looks promising, would the Bruins consider trading a proven asset in Rask for another proven asset meaning they fully believe in Svedberg and Subban, or kep Rask and trade Subban for another top prospect, say like a Saad from Chicago.

Thanks

They won't trade Rask. He's got a contract coming up. If anything I think the' B's are more willing to trade Subban in that hypothetical situation. I'm not sold on him yet and I know the name is selling people. He's still a teenager.

Pirateking 03-24-2013 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by WhamBamCam8 (Post 62285583)
My money is on Svedberg being Boston's #1 in 14-15.

Hope not, just thinking about it makes me want to cry :cry:

Never seen a goalie dive as much as he did in Brynäs last year when they won the SEL. :cry:
It was a sad day when i learned that the B's had given him a contract!:shakehead

http://youtu.be/AR-y5RvTRH4


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