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DirkGraham 03-25-2013 10:08 AM

Jarome Iginla
 
The Iginla trade rumors are running wild here in Calgary (they have been for weeks!). According to Sportsnetís Nick Kypreos, Iginla is willing to waive his no-movement clause and has submitted a list of teams he would accept a trade to. Preliminary reports are that the teams are: Chicago, Detroit and LA in the West and Boston and Pittsburg in the East.

Mark Spector says that the Flames are asking for TWO prospects and a draft pick for Jarome Iginla. No question that Iggy is being shopped around.

I am curious what everyone thinks about him becoming a Hawk and what you feel we should give up for him.

Also, he says that he doesn't want to be a rental player so maybe a contract will happen after the trade is finalized. What does everyone think he worth now? Duration of contract?

Looking forward to hearing everyones opinion.

Hawks82 03-25-2013 10:23 AM

I read a rumor on hockeybuzz this morning that the Hawks and Flames are talking. TT and Danault aren't being offered but McNeil is, you could also probably throw Morin in the mix. Seems about right...3rd or 4th best prospect is a good starting point.

I'd love Iginla on the Hawks playing the LW with Kane.

digdug41982 03-25-2013 10:24 AM

I'd love to have him but it would come as an absolute shock to see Bowman trade for a player of his calibre.

ndgt10 03-25-2013 10:29 AM

If he's traded within the West I see him going to Detroit or LA. Those GM's have the balls to pull it off.

Flames are in the thick of the playoff race so I could see them holding on to him.

All that being said, Boston has to be the leader. That team has the goods and has been struggling recently. Desperation puts the Flames in the driver seat when dealing with Boston. Boston's lineup with Iginla would be insane.

ndgt10 03-25-2013 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawks82 (Post 62355595)
I read a rumor on hockeybuzz this morning that the Hawks and Flames are talking. TT and Danault aren't being offered but McNeil is, you could also probably throw Morin in the mix. Seems about right...3rd or 4th best prospect is a good starting point.

I'd love Iginla on the Hawks playing the LW with Kane.

TT is an very good prospect, but he's not a game changer. I think with the right deal he would be available.

digdug41982 03-25-2013 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ndgt10 (Post 62355827)
If he's traded within the West I see him going to Detroit or LA. Those GM's have the balls to pull it off.

I hope this doesn't happen, but yeah, I agree with you. I could easily see the Hawks passed up by 3-4 teams in the West alone at the deadline. I'm praying there is little movement around the league because we are ****ed if this thing gets wild like the old days. The fact that teams can retain cap space worries the hell out of me.

IU Hawks fan 03-25-2013 10:44 AM

Why would he want to go to Detroit? How stuck in the past are these guys? That team isn't a Cup contender.

digdug41982 03-25-2013 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IU Hawks fan (Post 62356425)
Why would he want to go to Detroit? How stuck in the past are these guys? That team isn't a Cup contender.

Add Iginla, Ribeiro and J-Bo and it is...we know Detroit can and will beef up at the TD given the opportunity, my God how we know, lol. That's probably the thinking. Datsyuk is going to leave for the KHL pretty soon. Teams can keep cap space. I could definitely see them going on a shopping spree to try to get another Cup.

Beemer335 03-25-2013 10:49 AM

I hope Stan doesn't trade TT or saad for rental iginla. I would love to have him but he doesn't really fit that we'll into the lineup considering he plays the same position as Kane and Hossa. The most I give for him would be Stalberg, McNeill, and one of the Hayes brothers. Which I doubt Calgary takes

Illinihockey 03-25-2013 10:50 AM

Any player we are linked with, the Hawks never get. Bowman runs a tight ship with very few leaks

MurrayBannerman 03-25-2013 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coldsteelonice84 (Post 62356635)
Add Iginla, Ribeiro and J-Bo and it is...we know Detroit can and will beef up at the TD given the opportunity, my God how we know, lol. That's probably the thinking. Datsyuk is going to leave for the KHL pretty soon. Teams can keep cap space. I could definitely see them going on a shopping spree to try to get another Cup.

Adding all those guys would likely cost them Tatar, Nyquist and Jarnkrok. They're not doing that.

digdug41982 03-25-2013 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MurrayBannerman (Post 62357097)
Adding all those guys would likely cost them Tatar, Nyquist and Jarnkrok. They're not doing that.

It's a long shot but never speak in absolutes with that organization around the TD when there is a Cup to be had. We've seen them go hog wild too many times. The cap doesn't have as much relevance as it used to given the new rules.

DirkGraham 03-25-2013 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ndgt10 (Post 62355827)
If he's traded within the West I see him going to Detroit or LA.

I see LA in the West. Don't forget that Sutter is there and he loves Jarome. I think Jarome would love to play for Sutter again too.

There's lots of talk here that Chicago and Calgary are seriously talking about Jarome right now. No rumors on who they are talking about yet.

Illinihockey 03-25-2013 11:03 AM

Calgary isn't trading him to LA, they are in the same division and will be next year

digdug41982 03-25-2013 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Illinihockey (Post 62357443)
Calgary isn't trading him to LA, they are in the same division and will be next year

By the time Calgary is a Cup contender, Iginla will be retired or a shell of his former self. If L.A. gives the best offer, they should take it. The whole division thing is childish IMO. These teams are in the business of making themselves better, above ALL else. You never take less out of spite or because of some mindless archaic thought process.

Illinihockey 03-25-2013 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coldsteelonice84 (Post 62358601)
By the time Calgary is a Cup contender, Iginla will be retired or a shell of his former self. If L.A. gives the best offer, they should take it. The whole division thing is childish IMO. These teams are in the business of making themselves better, above ALL else. You never take less out of spite or because of some mindless archaic thought process.

You don't make a competitor better. Yes if LA's offer blows everyone else out of the water than you make that move. But usually you can leverage that offer with another team to get a comparable offer.

digdug41982 03-25-2013 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Illinihockey (Post 62358745)
You don't make a competitor better. Yes if LA's offer blows everyone else out of the water than you make that move. But usually you can leverage that offer with another team to get a comparable offer.

No, I don't agree at all. Let's say you have two offers, both final offers, most the two teams will pay.

L.A. 1st round pick and 2nd round pick

Boston 1st round pick and 3rd round pick


Iggy to L.A. IMO, no brainer.

zytz 03-25-2013 11:49 AM

I just don't see Iginla being a good fit here. There's no question on paper he adds some reat qualities to this team, but I don't see where he slots in, and if the asking price is actually 2 prospects and a pick I don't think we'll bite. Add to that, I think he's a guy with a lot of pride and ego, and I really don't think he would be down for playing on the 3/4th line. The only way I see him breaking into our top 6 is if Iggy or Sharp play center.

Following what the Flames are supposedly specifying as price, I'd be ok with like, McNeil/Pirri, Smith, and a 4th.

If they want both the prospects to be good, Im OK with any two of McNeil, Pirri, Morin, Olsen going, but forget any picks.

I'd prefer to do something around our UFAs... Bickell or Stalberg because I think it's one of their spots that he would be stealing in the lineup anyways.

99 steps 03-25-2013 11:53 AM

Iginla is just not a good fit for us. Hossa/Kane already play RW. Why overpay to put him on his off-wing?

Hawkaholic 03-25-2013 12:02 PM

As long as the deal doesn't include our 1st, TT, Danault, or Clendening, i'll probably be OK with it.

zytz 03-25-2013 12:07 PM

I wonder if they would do something like

Iginla + 2013 1st

for

Stalberg + McNeil + 2013 1st + 2014 1st

HawkeyFanatic 03-25-2013 12:14 PM

This post is going to disappear the same way mine did!

HawkeyFanatic 03-25-2013 12:15 PM

My deal would be

1st, McNeil, Olsen

Callidusblackhawk 03-25-2013 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zytz (Post 62361177)
I wonder if they would do something like

Iginla + 2013 1st

for

Stalberg + McNeil + 2013 1st + 2014 1st

That's gotta be a deal-breaker right there, especially if they are selling Iginla.

Callidusblackhawk 03-25-2013 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coldsteelonice84 (Post 62356635)
Add Iginla, Ribeiro and J-Bo and it is...we know Detroit can and will beef up at the TD given the opportunity, my God how we know, lol. That's probably the thinking. Datsyuk is going to leave for the KHL pretty soon. Teams can keep cap space. I could definitely see them going on a shopping spree to try to get another Cup.

When's the last time any team added three guys of that caliber at the deadline? I also don't get all the love for Detroit's supposed deadline prowess. Correct me if i'm wrong, but In recent memory all they've done is add depth guys at the deadline, right? The last big move i remember the Wings making is adding Hossa after they won the cup.


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