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Novacane 03-25-2013 05:20 PM

Alex Semin and Hurricanes agree to 5 year, 7 million avg deal
 
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Carolina Hurricanes sign Alex Semin, 5 years at $7 million per #TSN

https://twitter.com/aaronward_nhl/st...12322907963394

vwg* 03-25-2013 05:23 PM

Thank god. No doubt Semin is worth it. If he were a Canadian putting up these numbers, everyone would be fine with it, maybe even call it a steal.

Would love to hear from that Rocky guy.

dmonk 03-25-2013 05:24 PM

Holy cow... I didn't believe this would happen

smi 03-25-2013 05:24 PM

Let the lazy floating begin :sarcasm:

Mr America 03-25-2013 05:25 PM

So much for the talk of getting him a little cheaper on the $$$ if they gave him a long term deal...

Joe McGrath 03-25-2013 05:28 PM

All I can say is that JR better learn how to draft past then second round like two years ago.

Novacane 03-25-2013 05:28 PM

Would have liked the dollar amount a little less but am not complaining. Have to wonder what's up with so much money locked up in a few players.

Snipeshow 03-25-2013 05:28 PM

Surprised it cost them 7mil per, however this is good for you guys.

Staal to Semin for another 5 years. Nice.

FlyingSquirrels 03-25-2013 05:29 PM

Great stuff. Give JR credit for stepping up and at least TRYING to ice a solid team for the next few years.

Bottom line is we landed a top line talent for years to come. Didn't waste a prospect or pick to do it either. And thats tough to do nowadays with all these top tier guys getting long term deals.

semin4captain 03-25-2013 05:29 PM

Now that this is done, they should seriously look into trading Skinner for a defenseman. Before this season that would have been unthinkable, but now they have a vastly superior hockey player locked up for only 1.25M/yr more than Skinner. It's the only way to address the defense long term. All you are getting otherwise at the deadline is some mediocre #4/5.

Zombie Mike Murphy 03-25-2013 05:30 PM

In a world where Getzlaf and Perry are getting $8.5m+, $7m AAV probably IS a discount for term.

xSup3rM4ri0x 03-25-2013 05:30 PM

Awesome signing for you guys. Hopefully he won't sit on this contract :sarcasm:

Zombie Mike Murphy 03-25-2013 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Amaxing Joni Jokel (Post 62384961)
Now that this is done, they should seriously look into trading Skinner for a defenseman. Before this season that would have been unthinkable, but now they have a vastly superior hockey player locked up for only 1.25M/yr more than Skinner. It's the only way to adress the defense long term. All you are getting otherwise at the deadline is some mediocre #4/5.

I'm a lot less against this than I was 6 months ago. Possibly even for a true high-end power forward type. After the second concussion he doesn't seem quite right in the head, and it might be a good idea to make a move before the rest of the league figures that out.

Wonder what it would take to get Subban from MTL?

vwg* 03-25-2013 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Amaxing Joni Jokel (Post 62384961)
Now that this is done, they should seriously look into trading Skinner for a defenseman. Before this season that would have been unthinkable, but now they have a vastly superior hockey player locked up for only 1.25M/yr more than Skinner. It's the only way to address the defense long term. All you are getting otherwise at the deadline is some mediocre #4/5.

Right, like we're going to get a better d-man for a guy who isn't much better than Nigel Dawes.

garnetpalmetto 03-25-2013 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Troll Ward (Post 62385077)
I'm a lot less against this than I was 6 months ago. Possibly even for a true high-end power forward type. After the second concussion he doesn't seem quite right in the head, and it might be a good idea to make a move before the rest of the league figures that out.

Wonder what it would take to get Subban from MTL?

Too much, I think. Likely Skinner and if we cough that up - well great, we've got a shiny new defenseman but the second line consists of Jordan Staal and plugs. As it is I think finding a solid right winger for that line, either internally or via trade, is a critical need.

Gotta Catch Em Staal 03-25-2013 05:37 PM

Wow. Exciting news for the future of this team. We are spending money and trying to compete in a way that quite frankly we never have before.

Joe McGrath 03-25-2013 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by garnetpalmetto (Post 62385473)
Too much, I think. Likely Skinner and if we cough that up - well great, we've got a shiny new defenseman but the second line consists of Jordan Staal and plugs. As it is I think finding a solid right winger for that line, either internally or via trade, is a critical need.

More critical than a top pairing D that plays 20-24 minutes a night, a spot currently occupied by Joe Corvo?

Zombie Mike Murphy 03-25-2013 05:39 PM

Doesn't hurt to be running about 90% capacity this season, + more investors to spread the risk. We might well be cap team next year. Hell, in the new division we almost have to be.

semin4captain 03-25-2013 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by garnetpalmetto (Post 62385473)
Too much, I think. Likely Skinner and if we cough that up - well great, we've got a shiny new defenseman but the second line consists of Jordan Staal and plugs. As it is I think finding a solid right winger for that line, either internally or via trade, is a critical need.

As opposed to the current second line, which consists of Jeff Skinner with brief cameos from his linemates whom he occasionally elects to pass to, but not after turning the puck over seventy-five times a game and getting scored against. Staal with Jokinen and Ruutu would be a much better line than what we have going now.

Lazyking 03-25-2013 05:46 PM

I'm fine with the move. Wanted Semin for a little less but if they feel confident in paying him that much that it won't hurt the team in the long run, then I'm all for it.

vwg* 03-25-2013 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Amaxing Joni Jokel (Post 62386065)
As opposed to the current second line, which consists of Jeff Skinner with brief cameos from his linemates whom he occasionally elects to pass to, but not after turning the puck over seventy-five times a game and getting scored against. Staal with Jokinen and Ruutu would be a much better line than what we have going now.

So we're supposed to get a top 4 d-man for a player as awful as Skinner?

Not sure if meth logic or bad trolling, or a combination of both.

garnetpalmetto 03-25-2013 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe McGrath (Post 62385669)
More critical than a top pairing D that plays 20-24 minutes a night, a spot currently occupied by Joe Corvo?

What I'm saying is, in my opinion, trading off Skinner to gain Subban is robbing Peter to pay Paul. That top pairing Dman is a nice thing to have, but so is having multiple scoring lines. Sacrificing Skinner isn't the way to go about doing that.

Blueline Bomber 03-25-2013 05:53 PM

Cautiously optimistic about the deal. Wouldn't be the first time a player plays great for a contract, then plays less so after he gets paid.

BanginLikeaBiscuit 03-25-2013 05:54 PM

Props to JR for finally adding a legit top line winger, and doing so via free agency on a reasonable deal.

I was hoping for something like 4 years at 6m per, but like others pointed out, with Getzlaf and Perry getting well over 8m, this is a good deal for us. Also a great sign that we are committing 35m to a player, very encouraging to see the new investors allowing us the freedom to spend.

semin4captain 03-25-2013 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe McGrath (Post 62385669)
More critical than a top pairing D that plays 20-24 minutes a night, a spot currently occupied by Joe Corvo?

I'm not sure how some can watch this defense year after year and never want to actually trade anybody of any worth for a good defenseman. There seems to be some strange line of thought that all we need is some physical bottom-pairing defenseman, as if getting "tougher" for 15 minutes a game solves the issue of the consistent presence of a terrible defenseman in the top 4, or two terrible defensemen when Pitkanen is hurt, combined with Justin Faulk and Tim Gleason not really being all that great when you evaluate it objectively instead of fawning over alleged physicality or age/potential. People have spent so much time scapegoating McBainguinetti that they have failed to notice the elephant in the room.


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