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Jeebs 03-25-2013 05:24 PM

Semin's contract set the starting point for Kessel's?
 
With Semin getting 5x7 from Carolina, does Toronto offer something similar to Kessel?

HarrisonFord 03-25-2013 05:26 PM

It's $7Mx5 years, but damn, I didn't see that until just now. Sure seems like it would be the best comparable

Eb 03-25-2013 05:26 PM

5x7*

david999 03-25-2013 05:27 PM

Kessel is definitely worth that and likely for longer term.

Faltorvo 03-25-2013 05:28 PM

Nice UFA pick up for them, a asset free Kessel, good on them.

bshaw 03-25-2013 05:28 PM

No way. Semin fights, kessel doesnt ;)

Jeebs 03-25-2013 05:29 PM

My bad, corrected the numbers.

7mil seems about right for Kessel. Without Perry or Getzlaf coming our way we have more $$$ available for Kessel.

I personally think he has earned it and has shown a much more complete game this season.

HockeyThoughts 03-25-2013 05:32 PM

Alexander Semin definitely just set the market comparable for Phil Kessel. Very similar players with a similar skill-set. Kessel is younger and has been more consistently productive, but Semin has the higher highs -- and the lower lows.

I would be happy if GM David Nonis signed Kessel to the exact same deal.

maplehawk 03-25-2013 05:33 PM

Kessel having an off goal-scoring year with the rest of the team as a whole playing well is the best case scenario for us.

Hopefully drops Kessel's next deal slightly while not really having a major effect on our season.

If we can do Kessel for somewhere between 6.5-7 for 5/6 years I'm all for it.

Leaf Rocket 03-25-2013 05:34 PM

I'm happy with paying Kessel 6-7 million as I've said in the other threads. He's younger and much better than Semin IMO, as well rounding out his game slowly and steadily.

ForzaItalia 03-25-2013 05:34 PM

Kessel is rolling around naked in a tub full of cheezies after hearing about this Semin deal.

The Naz 03-25-2013 05:35 PM

7M seems perfect for Kessel. But I will bet CAR and their fans will regret the deal sooner then later.

Diamond Joe Quimby 03-25-2013 05:36 PM

I'd say Semin's deal and Marian Gaborik's deal are perfect comparables.

Kb21 03-25-2013 05:37 PM

7M/6 or 7M/7 is fair. buy him into age 31/32, slightly past his prime.

zeke 03-25-2013 05:37 PM

If we can get Kessel for just 7mil that'll be a bargain.

Kid's on his way to challenging the top-10 in scoring for the 2nd year in a row, at age 25.

we better be signing him for 8yrs, though.

DaveT83* 03-25-2013 05:38 PM

This thread will be fun to look back on after Kessels no show in the playoffs.

HarrisonFord 03-25-2013 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveT83 (Post 62385641)
This thread will be fun to look back on after Kessels no show in the playoffs.

Kessel is PPG in NHL playoffs

Leaf Rocket 03-25-2013 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveT83 (Post 62385641)
This thread will be fun to look back on after Kessels no show in the playoffs.

Funny you say that. He's almost PPG if not PPG at playoffs if I remember correctly.

firstemperor 03-25-2013 05:42 PM

Anything more than 7 million, unless on a significantly shorter-term deal would be overpayment. I'm probably in the minority here but I just don't think Kessel is that great. He goes invisible way too much for my liking, and his 2-way game and ineffectiveness on the boards gets tiresome.

If we do sign him for a long-term deal, I foresee us fans eventually running him out of town for those exact reasons. Perhaps I'm wrong, we'll see.

TheProspector 03-25-2013 05:42 PM

Kessel better than Semin? Uhhhh.... no. Semin is better in every aspect of the game except skating: shot, pass, stickhandling, defensively (by miles). I love Kessel, but I'd rather have Semin. But even more than that, I'd love to have both.

Didact 03-25-2013 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveT83 (Post 62385641)
This thread will be fun to look back on after Kessels no show in the playoffs.

your really funny. *shakes head*

Diamond Joe Quimby 03-25-2013 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveT83 (Post 62385641)
This thread will be fun to look back on after Kessels no show in the playoffs.

That's funny...he's a PPG player in the playoffs for his career...and that was as a 20 and 21 year old. 0.6 goals per game too. Clearly invisible.

Didact 03-25-2013 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firstemperor (Post 62385833)
Anything more than 7 million, unless on a significantly shorter-term deal would be overpayment. I'm probably in the minority here but I just don't think Kessel is that great. He goes invisible way too much for my liking, and his 2-way game and ineffectiveness on the boards gets tiresome.

If we do sign him for a long-term deal, I foresee us fans eventually running him out of town for those exact reasons. Perhaps I'm wrong, we'll see.

Don't we do that for all our players. What else is new?

Pi 03-25-2013 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeke (Post 62385521)
If we can get Kessel for just 7mil that'll be a bargain.

Kid's on his way to challenging the top-10 in scoring for the 2nd year in a row, at age 25.

we better be signing him for 8yrs, though.

Yeah, and that is despite his slow start.

He has his shortcomings against teams like the Bruins but I bet a lot of players struggle against the Bruins...it's not a good reason to trade him for picks/prospects.

I hope we can get him under 7 but anything near it is good.

Diamond Joe Quimby 03-25-2013 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Didact (Post 62385945)
Don't we do that for all our players. What else is new?

Not quite sure how much harder the fanbase and media can get on him.


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