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Vatican Roulette 03-29-2013 12:37 AM

To trade, or not to trade: Filppula edition
 
So let's hear it:

Are you in the camp to deal him, or to try and sign him?

I say trade him, and move Tatar or Nyquist into his spot.

kuick 03-29-2013 12:46 AM

He'd be nice in a JBo package but Flames fans seem confident that they wouldn't be able to re-sign him.

I don't see him being traded, keep him for the playoffs, but I think we part ways when his deal is up. He's a pure complementary player, and a good one at that. Pretty redundant with Nyquist coming in next year. Considering his rumored 'demands' for over $5M, we can try some other combinations and spend the cash elsewhere.

Vatican Roulette 03-29-2013 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by kuick (Post 62692771)
He'd be nice in a JBo package but Flames fans seem confident that they wouldn't be able to re-sign him.

I don't see him being traded, keep him for the playoffs, but I think we part ways when his deal is up. He's a pure complementary player, and a good one at that. Pretty redundant with Nyquist coming in next year. Considering his rumored 'demands' for over $5M, we can try some other combinations and spend the cash elsewhere.

I agree, but does Holland trade him for assests or no?

kuick 03-29-2013 12:58 AM

Probably not. Like I said, we keep him around for a playoff run and part ways after. Barring some sort of 'Nyquist' type explosion in his production.. but we've been waiting for him to really 'break out' for too long.

If his contract demands come down, I might reconsider. From what he's shown in this shortened season, small sample I know, a $4M cap hit is still pretty generous.

bullocks 03-29-2013 02:17 AM

He won't be traded

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garry1221 03-29-2013 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Vatican Roulette (Post 62693037)
I agree, but does Holland trade him for assests or no?

Doubt it. Kenny will whip out the 'loyalty, like family' mantra and he'll try lowballing Flip, only to see him follow the money. Asset management seems like a foreign concept to him nowadays. It's frustrating to see so many other GMs trading players for other assets/needs and Kenny keeps losing assets for nothing and replacing them with next to nothing.

Bottom line, Flip currently is a complimentary player, not a game changer. If he wants to price himself out of Detroit, trade him for assets/needs. I know we're still a playoff team, but trading him now gets us some kind of asset going forward. We've got other players of his ilk in the system.

CloneHakanPlease* 03-29-2013 02:58 AM

Shoudl've done it last year when his value was high. But alas hindsight is a ***** (one that continually proves me right later, but still a *****).

Sadekuuro 03-29-2013 03:07 AM

I'd prefer to keep him.

Bench 03-29-2013 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EZBAKE (Post 62695913)
Shoudl've done it last year when his value was high. But alas hindsight is a ***** (one that continually proves me right later, but still a *****).

Wow, what a crazy coincidence.

I, too, am always right after the fact.

Bench 03-29-2013 03:21 AM

Filppula is an excellent depth player. But he has truly failed to impress me as anything more than that this season. He's in that same category of guys like Ryder or Vrbata, who are nice players and all, but fail to engage that next level to make them indispensable.

So if the price is right, and since this team isn't overflowing with players of his caliber, you certainly keep him. Free agent options will be no better and I'm dubious the trade market is all that strong for a 2nd tier UFA having a soft season.

But with Tatar and Nyquist knocking at the door, you could make the argument that there are players ready to fill his shoes and if his contract demands make the team uncomfortable, exploring options would be savvy.

Hammerheart 03-29-2013 03:44 AM

Filppula has been real good for us, but I think our time is coming to an end. I don't think holding onto him for the playoffs will make much difference, I don't see us making a push to win the Stanley Cup this year anyway. We should get as much out of him as possible in return like we should have with Hudler.

InjuredChoker 03-29-2013 05:11 AM

He's still on our roster, huh?

Haven't seen him in a while..

Z40 03-29-2013 06:29 AM

Keep him, but at least entertain offers. For the right return, trade him. Although, Franzen would be my first choice for trade bait. He just doesn't compete much anymore. A waste of talent. I would love to get Gaborik on Datsyuk's wing.

Zetterberg4Captain 03-29-2013 06:50 AM

he aint worth 5 million quid a season for the next 4 plus years

if those are his demands say "ok no problem Val" then ship him off at the deadline for a 1st and a prospect or as part of package to land a top 6 young winger

Henkka 03-29-2013 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z40 (Post 62697807)
Keep him, but at least entertain offers. For the right return, trade him. Although, Franzen would be my first choice for trade bait. He just doesn't compete much anymore. A waste of talent. I would love to get Gaborik on Datsyuk's wing.

I think Boston would be very interested getting Franzen, when they missed Iginla...

...but ****. They are in the future in the same division, can't trade. :rant: :cry: :banghead:

InjuredChoker 03-29-2013 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henkka (Post 62698331)
I think Boston would be very interested getting Franzen, when they missed Iginla...

...but ****. They are in the future in the same division, can't trade. :rant: :cry: :banghead:

They are struggling with cap space, don't see them taking Franzen anyway.

Zetterberg4Captain 03-29-2013 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InjuredChoker (Post 62698477)
They are struggling with cap space, don't see them taking Franzen anyway.

not that I think he will go there but I thought after that clever Thomas trade and the Savard LTIR that the Bruins were ok cap space wise, no?

Hendricks433 03-29-2013 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z40 (Post 62697807)
Keep him, but at least entertain offers. For the right return, trade him. Although, Franzen would be my first choice for trade bait. He just doesn't compete much anymore. A waste of talent. I would love to get Gaborik on Datsyuk's wing.

If we could package Flip for Gaborik I would do it in a heart beat.

Henkka 03-29-2013 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InjuredChoker (Post 62698477)
They are struggling with cap space, don't see them taking Franzen anyway.

They have lots of capspace because of Savard will be in LTIR for rest of his contract.

InjuredChoker 03-29-2013 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zetterberg4Captain (Post 62698511)
not that I think he will go there but I thought after that clever Thomas trade and the Savard LTIR that the Bruins were ok cap space wise, no?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henkka (Post 62698621)
They have lots of capspace because of Savard will be in LTIR for rest of his contract.

If they sign Rask for 5 mil long-term, Bruins have around 59 mil (with bonuses) tied up in 18 players. Add Franzen there and it's 63 mil. on 19 players in 64.3 mil cap.

That's without Savard.

icKx 03-29-2013 08:44 AM

He's not worth $5mil but without him our top-6 goes from bad to awful.

We're in a bad spot.

SoupNazi 03-29-2013 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EZBAKE (Post 62695913)
But alas hindsight is a ***** (one that continually proves me right later, but still a *****).

It proves me right too.

Quelle coincidence, the French would say.

Henkka 03-29-2013 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InjuredChoker (Post 62699527)
If they sign Rask for 5 mil long-term, Bruins have around 59 mil (with bonuses) tied up in 18 players. Add Franzen there and it's 63 mil. on 19 players in 64.3 mil cap.

That's without Savard.

Yeah, Horton walks for free agency and nothing prevents them trade some other salary away at next summer. But at this season they could have both (Horton & Franzen) and great chance for a cup.

But of course it's not happening, because of our move.

GT500x 03-29-2013 08:58 AM

Trade him when he decides to get hot again. Hopefully we'll... wait, Holland isn't trading anyone on this team. Too much loyalty.

ALF AmericanLionsFan 03-29-2013 09:31 AM

I prefer to keep him. Think the knee injury has been a major problem for him.


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