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Kahuna Nanu 04-03-2013 05:58 PM

Marian Gaborik to Columbus for Brassard, J. Moore and Dorsett
 
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Shakes out as:

To :cbj

Marian Gaborik
Steven Delisle
Blake Parlett

To :rangers

Derick Brassard
Derek Dorsett
John Moore
2014 6th round pick

Thirty One 04-03-2013 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zenith (Post 63208255)
Continue.

Shakes out as:

To :cbj

Marian Gaborik
Logan Pyett
Blake Parlett

To :rangers

Derick Brassard
Derek Dorsett
John Moore
2014 6th round pick

WE stiLL HAVE PYETT!

eyjee 04-03-2013 06:00 PM

Should have dealt him at the draft for a better return. Pretty clearly Torts running a guy out of town.

Mithrandir 04-03-2013 06:02 PM

Torts to Sather, after the deal:

"That's not what I meant when you came to me with Brassard for Gaborik and I told you I wanted more..."



Edit: But seriously, I like the deal. It's not great; it's got potential to help though. Maybe I shouldn't say I "like" it. I certainly don't love it. But I'm not upset about it either. It could end up paying better dividends than we know. Moore could be really good for us and certainly helps our D by pushing Gilroy/Hamrlik/Eminger out. He's easily better than all of them, and still improving. Brassard. If he does exactly what he did in Columbus he'll be alright but nothing worth getting excited about. Dorsett brings something we really needed to get back. Clowe, if he can rebound will be good. If not, he'll be a glorified Rupp.

Zamboner 04-03-2013 06:02 PM

Plagiarizing myself from the last thread.

So in conclusion,

We got a 3rd line center, who's skills don't translate to centering a 3rd line.

We got yet another solid left handed defenseman who doesn't create offense.

And we finally got Brandon Prust's replacement, but he can't play until the playoffs. The playoffs that we probably won't make.

For Marian Gaborik.

Kwayry 04-03-2013 06:03 PM

Torts: On if he believes the Rangers are a better team after the trade deadline: “I have no idea.”

M0rbid 04-03-2013 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kwayry (Post 63208727)
Torts: On if he believes the Rangers are a better team after the trade deadline: I have no idea.

Great answer. NOT!

tjs252 04-03-2013 06:05 PM

The worst thing you can say for a trade is that the offer you ended up taking would have been on the table in the foreseeable future, you lost.

Tawnos 04-03-2013 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zamboner (Post 63208649)
Plagiarizing myself from the last thread.

So in conclusion,

We got a 3rd line center, who's skills don't translate to centering a 3rd line.

We got yet another solid left handed defenseman who doesn't create offense.

And we finally got Brandon Prust's replacement, but he can't play until the playoffs. The playoffs that we probably won't make.

For Marian Gaborik.

Or..

We got a 3rd line center whose skills translate exactly to the kind of 3rd line a team like ours should have.

We got a right D with great upside.

We got a very good bottom 6 grit guy who will undoubtedly help us in the first round of the playoffs when we get there.

For

A scorer who has scored in only 6 games this season.

schabadoo 04-03-2013 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silverfish (Post 63208451)
Should have dealt him at the draft for a better return. Pretty clearly Torts running a guy out of town.

Between his cap hit, point total and pending free agency, they would've cleaned up...

MessierIsGod 04-03-2013 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silverfish (Post 63208451)
Should have dealt him at the draft for a better return. Pretty clearly Torts running a guy out of town.

++1..hate this trade..should dump torts instead

Mithrandir 04-03-2013 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tawnos (Post 63209039)
Or..

We got a 3rd line center whose skills translate exactly to the kind of 3rd line a team like ours should have.

We got a right D with great upside.

We got a very good bottom 6 grit guy who will undoubtedly help us in the first round of the playoffs when we get there.

For

A scorer who has scored in only 6 games this season.

Don't try to reason. Optimism about the trade is not allowed.

But really, you're right. We also got cap flexible and shookup a team that needed a shaking. I know Moore can and will PLAY the right sided, but I really wish he was right handed. That would have been real nice.

Mr Atoz* 04-03-2013 06:09 PM

This is why this team can never win. Trade the future for the past, and when it doesn't work, trade the past for the future. And so on and so on.

Kwayry 04-03-2013 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tawnos (Post 63209039)
Or..

We got a 3rd line center whose skills translate exactly to the kind of 3rd line a team like ours should have.

We got a right D with great upside.

We got a very good bottom 6 grit guy who will undoubtedly help us in the first round of the playoffs when we get there.

For

A scorer who has scored in only 6 games this season.

Moore is a LD.

ThisIsMyAlibi 04-03-2013 06:10 PM

Brassards aren't conducive to championship rosters. Inconsistent, paid their market value, and little in the way of leadership. He has physical talent but it never clicked. What you're left with is a guy being paid like a 2/3 C without the skillset to play in the top 6. So he plays grinder lines without grinder attributes.

Callafan24 04-03-2013 06:11 PM

Equally compelling perspectives. Might have been able to get more at the draft, but I don't yet feel fleeced by the deal. Time will tell.:)

Tawnos 04-03-2013 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MPF24 (Post 63209231)
Don't try to reason. Optimism about the trade is not allowed.

But really, you're right. We also got cap flexible and shookup a team that needed a shaking. I know Moore can and will PLAY the right sided, but I really wish he was right handed. That would have been real nice.

I'm being driven into optimism by some of the pessimism. In reality, I'm somewhere in between. The only thing that matters to me is wins. Gaborik could score 10 goals over the rest of the year. If we can win consistently again, I don't care.

Punxrocknyc19* 04-03-2013 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kwayry (Post 63208727)
Torts: On if he believes the Rangers are a better team after the trade deadline: I have no idea.

did he really just say that?? he couldnt be positive :help: no wonder why this team showed no emotion

Callafan24 04-03-2013 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Atoz (Post 63209245)
This is why this team can never win. Trade the future for the past, and when it doesn't work, trade the past for the future. And so on and so on.

Less future for past. More high end talent versus young(ish) depth.

MessierIsGod 04-03-2013 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zamboner (Post 63208649)
Plagiarizing myself from the last thread.

So in conclusion,

We got a 3rd line center, who's skills don't translate to centering a 3rd line.

We got yet another solid left handed defenseman who doesn't create offense.

And we finally got Brandon Prust's replacement, but he can't play until the playoffs. The playoffs that we probably won't make.

For Marian Gaborik.

Agreed..gabby has a better chance of turning around to be the "old" gabby than clowe turning around.

We won't make the playoffs.

NYRKING30 04-03-2013 06:14 PM

To BroadwayBlue, Either trade him at the draft or by the deadline next year which he would have rebounded. I would have been more satisfied if they traded him straight up for a 1st rouner. I just don't know what to make of this team after this trade. Now we are going to be in the hunt for another goal scorer in the offseason and beyond. If Brassard turns into Kyle Turris 2.0, I'll be satisfied. I wasn't expecting like 2 1sts or anything but probably should have held onto him to at least the draft.

Mithrandir 04-03-2013 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThisIsMyAlibi (Post 63209319)
Brassards aren't conducive to championship rosters. Inconsistent, paid their market value, and little in the way of leadership. He has physical talent but it never clicked. What you're left with is a guy being paid like a 2/3 C without the skillset to play in the top 6. So he plays grinder lines without grinder attributes.

Brassard, guaranteed gets some minutes with top six linemates as well and sees some PP time. He has the tools to play in the top six; he's just been inconsistent. 40+ points isn't awful and at 25, having only ever played for a CBJ team that's been terrible most years, it's not as if a change of scenery couldn't help him put it together a little bit better. He's a 40+ point guy right now. If he can be a 50+ point guy, how bad is that? Not terrible.

Tawnos 04-03-2013 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kwayry (Post 63209279)
Moore is a LD.

Moore is a lefty. That doesn't mean he is an LD.

Zamboner 04-03-2013 06:14 PM

Even if Moore does end up playing the right side well -- We're the 5th best team in GAA. A bottom paired defenseman shouldn't be the highlight of a package for Marian Gaborik. I don't care how bad his numbers are this year.

Riverdale 04-03-2013 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kwayry (Post 63208727)
Torts: On if he believes the Rangers are a better team after the trade deadline: “I have no idea.”

Is this an actual quote? I can see him saying that


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