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PSUhockey34 04-19-2005 07:45 PM

Semin trade
 
Just kicking around a few trade ideas b/c hey, what else is there really to talk about....if the Capitals' were to draft a player of the same caliber as Semin whenever the next entry draft rolls around, what would be your guy's opinions on swapping Semin for Grebeshkov? would other picks/prospects needed to be included? the Kings look like they lack some depth at the LW and goal postion and a package of Semin and Stana or Daigneault for Grebeshkov a pick and/or prospect could be a step in the right direction for both teams

AnThGrt 04-19-2005 08:06 PM

Truthfully i would want this our offense is @#$% right now and Semin could help that a lot while our defense is deep and losing Grebs wont hurt us that much plus he is still a big ? look at him this year wasnt anything special and made more mistakes then good moves yet he is young and can develop but I like Semin more - Did Semin play with Frolov ever?

jfont 04-19-2005 08:09 PM

kings have plenty of excellent forward prospects and quite a few defense and goalie (though we have garon and a couple of younger prospects)...even with aulin (going to the caps) and anshakov gone they're still loaded at forward...

so, i'd say it would take alot to pry away a good young D like Grebs...but stana sounds interesting though...we bandied this around a couple of years ago and thought about stana for aulin or lehoux...

PSUhockey34 04-19-2005 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jfont
kings have plenty of excellent forward prospects and quite a few defense and goalie (though we have garon and a couple of younger prospects)...even with aulin (going to the caps) and anshakov gone they're still loaded at forward...

so, i'd say it would take alot to pry away a good young D like Grebs...but stana sounds interesting though...we bandied this around a couple of years ago and thought about stana for aulin or lehoux...

last time I checked stana was a having a helluva a season in the SEL, I dont have anything really updated sorry

If the Capitals' could draft Johnson then I think Semin wouldnt be moved...if Benoit Pouliut is drafted instead, then I would have no reservations moving Semin...as a prospect and player he leaves me with alot of questions on whether not he can be an elite player...IMO he'll be more of cross between Maxim Afinogenov or Milan Hejduk depending if he can put it all together

Reaper45 04-19-2005 10:16 PM

It's an interesting idea, but as I said in the other thread, I'm not sure if I'd do it. I just have a feeling that we'd deal Grebeshkov and he'd blow up in Washington....

Capn Brown 04-19-2005 10:48 PM

I'll say...........



Grebeshkov and Hogeboom

for

Semin and Stana

Venom_17 04-20-2005 12:25 AM

Grebs and Hogy for Stana and Semin? Sure I'd do that.

Mxpunk 04-20-2005 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Reaper45
It's an interesting idea, but as I said in the other thread, I'm not sure if I'd do it. I just have a feeling that we'd deal Grebeshkov and he'd blow up in Washington....


I have to agree with Reap. I still think Greb will be a good defenseman for the Kings in the future.. If you throw in your BMW M3, you might have a deal, however.,..

King'sPawn 04-20-2005 12:48 AM

We'd be pretty thin on D if we dealt Grebeshkov. What about Cammalleri, Brown, or Tukonen for Semin and Stana?

Legionnaire 04-20-2005 01:15 AM

Semin is very talented, and I don't think we'd have that hard of time finding a D replacement on the market for Grebs.

King'sPawn 04-20-2005 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Legionnaire
Semin is very talented, and I don't think we'd have that hard of time finding a D replacement on the market for Grebs.

Maybe so, but I'd still rather deal from a position of strength. It's already bad enough how shaky we are on goaltending prospects, and we're still a couple years away from having our depth at center respectable. I don't want us thin on D, too.

Reaper45 04-20-2005 01:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King'sPawn
Maybe so, but I'd still rather deal from a position of strength. It's already bad enough how shaky we are on goaltending prospects, and we're still a couple years away from having our depth at center respectable. I don't want us thin on D, too.

Exactly, it'd add another skilled winger, but then we'd be thin on d again.

10 ft. pole 04-20-2005 11:38 AM

We have Frolov and Brown what the hell are you guys talking about thin on left wing.

We need depth on D. We still dont have a stud powerplay d-man. We also need a bonafide top line center in the next 3 drafts. The wings are loaded with potential. We have in addition to those mentioned above. Tamb's, Push, Tukonen, Camellarri, potentially, etc.

nikolai19 04-20-2005 12:02 PM

Washington won't trade Semin at this point. The dudes over there are having wet dreams about him on a line with Ovechkin. He is about as likely to get traded as Frolov is from LA.

Defensively they've got some okay prospects on D, like Eminger, Green, Morrison, plus whenever the draft gets settled they could get someone like Jack Johnson so they would be fine.

King Blazer 04-20-2005 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10 ft. pole
We need depth on D. We still dont have a stud powerplay d-man.

Given the opportunity, I think Gleason could be a real good PP d-man...Don't know if he'd reach "stud" status but I think he could be good...

Chartrand 04-20-2005 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Daleks
I'll say...........



Grebeshkov and Hogeboom

for

Semin and Stana

LA would probably have to add more.

Just assuming that Grebeshkov=Semin, Stana has proven more than Hogeboom.

That said, I'm not sure that LA needs another mid-level goalie prospect in the pipeline. Hauser could use one season as a #1 in the AHL before he should be given a chance as a #2 in the NHL, while Brust and Fukufuji have had successful seasons in the ECHL.

King'sPawn 04-20-2005 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10 ft. pole
We have Frolov and Brown what the hell are you guys talking about thin on left wing.

We need depth on D. We still dont have a stud powerplay d-man. We also need a bonafide top line center in the next 3 drafts. The wings are loaded with potential. We have in addition to those mentioned above. Tamb's, Push, Tukonen, Camellarri, potentially, etc.

Brown is listed as a right wing, although he's been on the left wing in Manchester on the line with Cammalleri and Smyth. Tambellini and Clarke are our two best LWers, prospect wise. Pushkarev, Tukonen, Cammalleri, Brown are all RWers.

Once Robitaille retires, who do you propose as our #2 LW? Semin would be an awesome addition, but I wouldn't want to do it at the cost of Grebeshkov.

Quote:

Given the opportunity, I think Gleason could be a real good PP d-man...Don't know if he'd reach "stud" status but I think he could be good...
I think Kings management wants to reign him in with his offensive contributions. He had a tendency to overcommit, because of his speed, which would lead to odd man rushes the other way around.

King Blazer 04-20-2005 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by King'sPawn
I think Kings management wants to reign him in with his offensive contributions. He had a tendency to overcommit, because of his speed, which would lead to odd man rushes the other way around.

Understood.... Keeping in mind that Grebeshkov making bad decisions has lead to odd man rushes the other way around a lot this season...

The turnovers, "unforced errors", shots into closing forwards shin pads (4 on the PP against Lowell on Friday night, 1 that lead to an odd man rush), getting toasted (Parros had to take a holding the stick penalty in the Lowell game thus negating a Monarchs PP after Grebs got toasted on the left side; Grebs took an interference call Sunday in Worcester to prevent being tooled)...

It's to the point that my wife won't allow me to wear my Grebs gamer anymore... :eek:

Grebs is young and still has time to learn...

10 ft. pole 04-20-2005 02:07 PM

we have more options on the wings than we do in rearguards is my point.

PSUhockey34 04-20-2005 04:16 PM

Apparently I'm the only poster on the Capitals' board that doesnt think the world would come to an end if McPhee moved Semin......


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