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kfan22 04-15-2013 10:37 PM

Todd Richards future?
 
Wild fan here, Just a quick question what is the thinking in Columbus about Todd Richards future in after this year, I am going to guess a few big name coaches will be available after this year and I figure Davidson and Kekalainen may want to make a big splash with a new head coach next year? Or has Richards done enough to earn another year. Sorry if this has been discussed already just curious what the talk is in Columbus about this since Richards did coach the Wild also

MoeBartoli 04-15-2013 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by kfan22 (Post 64023595)
Wild fan here, Just a quick question what is the thinking in Columbus about Todd Richards future in after this year, I am going to guess a few big name coaches will be available after this year and I figure Davidson and Kekalainen may want to make a big splash with a new head coach next year? Or has Richards done enough to earn another year. Sorry if this has been discussed already just curious what the talk is in Columbus about this since Richards did coach the Wild also

Seems to me he has earned another year.

Iron Balls McGinty 04-15-2013 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kfan22 (Post 64023595)
Wild fan here, Just a quick question what is the thinking in Columbus about Todd Richards future in after this year, I am going to guess a few big name coaches will be available after this year and I figure Davidson and Kekalainen may want to make a big splash with a new head coach next year? Or has Richards done enough to earn another year. Sorry if this has been discussed already just curious what the talk is in Columbus about this since Richards did coach the Wild also

It has been said many times that the coaching staff is a big part of why the team is where they are right now. Richards has earned the right to stay here.

Even still, I can't see how you replace a coach that has taken them from 30th in the league to within inches of the playoffs at this point. If you do it is changing coaches just for the sake of changing coaches.

CBJWennberg41 04-15-2013 11:48 PM

He's had to have earned another year. What message does it send to the players to fire him after that streak? They love him, and he's the right guy for this team. Keep please

Doug19 04-15-2013 11:52 PM

Can't deny how the team is playing, I still don't think he's a very good NHL head coach. He has the guys motivate, but this guy doesn't know how to make line adjustments. Only one of the lines have been working and it took them forever to adjust the defensive pairings quickly. Maybe if he could put someone else in charge of picking the lines, I'd change my mind, but right now this team is squeaking by, they need to change things up on the forwards.

EspenK 04-16-2013 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug61 (Post 64030235)
Can't deny how the team is playing, I still don't think he's a very good NHL head coach. He has the guys motivate, but this guy doesn't know how to make line adjustments. Only one of the lines have been working and it took them forever to adjust the defensive pairings quickly. Maybe if he could put someone else in charge of picking the lines, I'd change my mind, but right now this team is squeaking by, they need to change things up on the forwards.

Yeah,but the trade deadline has passed :sarcasm:

I think he stays and he should. What I don't know is if they extend him now or wait. It makes him a lame duck if they don't and they risk a problem if they do and the team turns into a one hit wonder.

I vote to keep him. He has earned it.

Nanabijou 04-16-2013 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by EspenK (Post 64037419)
Yeah,but the trade deadline has passed :sarcasm:

I think he stays and he should. What I don't know is if they extend him now or wait. It makes him a lame duck if they don't and they risk a problem if they do and the team turns into a one hit wonder.

I vote to keep him. He has earned it.

He's earned another year. I would rather they not give him an extension, though. Let's see how it goes next year.

I've never understood why a coach is a 'lame duck' on the last year of their contract. I understand why a general manager could be considered that as they often have to make decisions that have long-term consequences. A general manager with an expiring contract may act very differently at the trade deadline than one with a long-term contract.

Most coaches are focused on the next game. I don't really think a coach is going to use different lines or systems if they are on the last year versus having another year on their contract.

Ludicrous Speed 04-16-2013 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by CBJBrassard16 (Post 64029957)
He's had to have earned another year. What message does it send to the players to fire him after that streak? They love him, and he's the right guy for this team. Keep please

Personally, I agree wholeheartedly. But I still wouldn't be shocked if Jarmo and JD have a guy in mind who they think may push us over the edge.

BluejacketNut 04-16-2013 05:18 PM

I give Bobs the most credit for this turn around. But i'll trust the choice of JD and JK on what they want to do

EspenK 04-16-2013 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Nanabijou (Post 64038463)
He's earned another year. I would rather they not give him an extension, though. Let's see how it goes next year.

I've never understood why a coach is a 'lame duck' on the last year of their contract. I understand why a general manager could be considered that as they often have to make decisions that have long-term consequences. A general manager with an expiring contract may act very differently at the trade deadline than one with a long-term contract.

Most coaches are focused on the next game. I don't really think a coach is going to use different lines or systems if they are on the last year versus having another year on their contract.

I think the issue with a lame duck coach is the players tuning the guy out because he is (might) not going to be around next year.

Mayor Bee 04-16-2013 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ludicrous Speed (Post 64041429)
Personally, I agree wholeheartedly. But I still wouldn't be shocked if Jarmo and JD have a guy in mind who they think may push us over the edge.

Generally such a move would only be made after the pieces are in place to contend, but the team keeps coming up short. Making a move now, when the consensus around the league is that this team is a lot more productive than the actual talent would dictate, is a perfect example of putting the cart before the horse.

db2011 04-16-2013 08:09 PM

If Richards is let go after this season for some handpicked guy I will seriously question it. I'm not ready to trust JD/JK so emphatically if they try to fix something that is working. I think that would be a big blunder

MoeBartoli 04-16-2013 08:33 PM

The starting block for nay coach is to have a culture where players will play for you. These guys are playing hard - he has the locker room behind him. Next is the x and O stuff. I cannot say whether he's the greatest game plan guy or the coach with a plan (Guy Boucher?), but nothing has shown me he is not competent. I would make make sure he always has one year beyond the year at hand. If we have to eat it, so what? Management needs to show they believe so the players believe.

leesmith 04-16-2013 09:20 PM

I suspect Richards is going to be the coach that gets us into the playoffs and even into the second round, but won't have quite enough juice to make us Cup contenders. That will be for the NEXT coach - once this year's draft picks mature. But don't cry for Todd Richards, he'll have no problems getting a head coaching job with the still-lowly Edmonton Oilers. ;)

jacketsinDC 04-16-2013 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug61 (Post 64030235)
Can't deny how the team is playing, I still don't think he's a very good NHL head coach. He has the guys motivate, but this guy doesn't know how to make line adjustments. Only one of the lines have been working and it took them forever to adjust the defensive pairings quickly. Maybe if he could put someone else in charge of picking the lines, I'd change my mind, but right now this team is squeaking by, they need to change things up on the forwards.

Agree with this.

leesmith 04-16-2013 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug61 (Post 64030235)
Can't deny how the team is playing, I still don't think he's a very good NHL head coach. He has the guys motivate, but this guy doesn't know how to make line adjustments. Only one of the lines have been working and it took them forever to adjust the defensive pairings quickly. Maybe if he could put someone else in charge of picking the lines, I'd change my mind, but right now this team is squeaking by, they need to change things up on the forwards.

Forget Richards. Jarmo needs to summon the guy in charge of the power play.

db2011 04-16-2013 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by MoeBartoli (Post 64073613)
The starting block for nay coach is to have a culture where players will play for you. These guys are playing hard - he has the locker room behind him. Next is the x and O stuff. I cannot say whether he's the greatest game plan guy or the coach with a plan (Guy Boucher?), but nothing has shown me he is not competent. I would make make sure he always has one year beyond the year at hand. If we have to eat it, so what? Management needs to show they believe so the players believe.

I agree with this. He seems to really have galvanized the room. It must have been tough with the poor record to start and so many close losses. And it must be very gratifying now that the team is learning to compete.

As far as tactics/line changes, criticisms of Richards seem fair. He does seem a bit hard-headed about that, and the finish that the 3rd line had in Colorado probably encourages that. Although recently he has admitted to manipulating combos in order to spark something.

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Originally Posted by leesmith (Post 64092387)
Forget Richards. Jarmo needs to summon the guy in charge of the power play.

Yeah, the power play really is so atrocious. It hasn't helped that Wiz has missed chunks of time, and now Brass is gone. If the PP were only halfway decent :help:

Why isn't Erixon playing, again? Did he get hurt?

jacketman10 04-17-2013 12:34 AM

I think he wants Aucoin out there cause he has been in this situation before. Even though Aucoin can be pretty bad at times.

RDriesenUD 04-17-2013 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MoeBartoli (Post 64023795)
Seems to me he has earned another year.

I agree. I am still not a big fan of his, and originally wanted a new coach next year, but he he has earned one more year.

RDriesenUD 04-17-2013 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by EspenK (Post 64037419)
Yeah,but the trade deadline has passed :sarcasm:

I think he stays and he should. What I don't know is if they extend him now or wait. It makes him a lame duck if they don't and they risk a problem if they do and the team turns into a one hit wonder.

I vote to keep him. He has earned it.

I don't see why you would extend him. He has to prove it in a full season. We have been good this season, because we have played hard and Bobrovsky has been great. It would be a big mistake, IMO, to extend him now when you don't have too.

RDriesenUD 04-17-2013 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Nanabijou (Post 64038463)
He's earned another year. I would rather they not give him an extension, though. Let's see how it goes next year.

I've never understood why a coach is a 'lame duck' on the last year of their contract. I understand why a general manager could be considered that as they often have to make decisions that have long-term consequences. A general manager with an expiring contract may act very differently at the trade deadline than one with a long-term contract.

Most coaches are focused on the next game. I don't really think a coach is going to use different lines or systems if they are on the last year versus having another year on their contract.

I agree. A coach is coaching to win the game they are playing. A GM is trying to win now, but also improve the team for the future. A coach will continue to try to win the next game no matter how many years are on his contract, because that is how he will get a new contract. A GM might change from worrying about the future to only worrying about the current year which could be really bad.

major major 04-17-2013 05:11 PM

In Bob Mckenzie's coaches poll, Western Conference coaches voted Richards third for the Western Conference coach of the year.

Cyclones Rock 04-18-2013 03:35 AM

How do you not bring the guy back?

He's done more than anyone could have reasonably expected. The team is on the cusp of a playoff berth and the players obviously buy into what he is teaching.

Barring a huge name coming in, it would seem to be a forgone conclusion that Richards gets to work the final year of his contract.

EspenK 04-18-2013 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by leesmith (Post 64092387)
Forget Richards. Jarmo needs to summon the guy in charge of the power play.

We HAVE a power play? :laugh: I just read the Jackets are 5 for 59 on the pp on the road. :help: That's 8% and change. Right Roadman? :laugh:

Also read Jackets are 16-4-5 since we were debating Jones or Mackinnon. I can't believe they fire TR and would be most amazed if they didn't extend him at least 2 years.

JACKETfan 04-18-2013 08:07 AM

Given what's going on, only trolls and lunatics would debate this now.

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