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Kshahdoo 04-19-2013 11:58 AM

Legenda #17
 
Has anybody seen the movie? I've read a couple reviews. They praised it. But I got my doubts anyway.

Fulcrum 04-19-2013 07:33 PM

I agree..

Atas2000 04-22-2013 10:54 AM

You just can't show the truth in those movies. Nice Hollywood-like biographical movie about a sports legend. Had to push myself to finish watching it. Menshikov of course is one of a kind. He at times really managed to mimic the Tarasov scary good. Otherwise mediocre play by mediocre actors.

Garyboy 05-16-2013 09:08 PM

Where can one obtain a copy, and is it subtitled? Thanks for your help.

Atas2000 05-24-2013 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Garyboy (Post 66177911)
Where can one obtain a copy, and is it subtitled? Thanks for your help.

DVD release date is 30th May. So no particular information until then available.

Garyboy 05-25-2013 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Atas2000 (Post 66546539)
DVD release date is 30th May. So no particular information until then available.

Thank you kindly for your reply and information.

pulverapa 10-07-2013 05:06 PM

I was in Russia last week and I found "Legenda 17" in the stores but it is not subtitled. Not even the "Special Edition" which included a Russian flag. :)

Den 10-08-2013 08:25 AM

One Russian journalist called this movie "a piece of **** that has to be loathed with all intensity". Mostly because it has very little to do with reality of Kharlamov's life of the USSR at that time.

VMBM 10-09-2013 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Den (Post 72210249)
One Russian journalist called this movie "a piece of **** that has to be loathed with all intensity". Mostly because it has very little to do with reality of Kharlamov's life of the USSR at that time.

At least he is left-hand shot in the movie - unlike in that friggin' Miracle (2004) :sarcasm:

Acallabeth 10-09-2013 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Den (Post 72210249)
One Russian journalist called this movie "a piece of **** that has to be loathed with all intensity". Mostly because it has very little to do with reality of Kharlamov's life of the USSR at that time.

The problem isn't even it's not being accurate, the problem are bad actors choices, stupid plot branches and unneeded all-around pompousness.
It also has quite a lot cursing and naked body for a 6+ movie - not a fan.

Den 10-09-2013 06:29 AM

I's hilarious how Utkin ranks "Miracle" way above Legenda 17:


http://sport.tut.by/news/aboutsport/355990.html

And he nails it admitting that he has not seen Legenda 17 :)

obskyr 10-09-2013 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Acallabeth (Post 72274755)
The problem isn't even it's not being accurate, the problem are bad actors choices, stupid plot branches and unneeded all-around pompousness.
It also has quite a lot cursing and naked body for a 6+ movie - not a fan.

I'd say it's mildly pompous. Just as much as a movie like this needs to be. It's redundant and gimmicky at times (the lazy bromance line concerned me the most), but the general audience seems to dig that. And it can't be bad in any way. It made more publicity for CSKA in particular than the club itself has done in its entire post-soviet history.

Paxton Fettel 10-09-2013 02:55 PM

this movie is bad

Atas2000 10-10-2013 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Den (Post 72210249)
One Russian journalist called this movie "a piece of **** that has to be loathed with all intensity". Mostly because it has very little to do with reality of Kharlamov's life of the USSR at that time.

That "journalist" is exactly the thing he called the movie. Well, it has nothing to do with the fact that the movie isn't really worth any accolades.

Atas2000 10-10-2013 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Den (Post 72274869)
I's hilarious how Utkin ranks "Miracle" way above Legenda 17:


http://sport.tut.by/news/aboutsport/355990.html

And he nails it admitting that he has not seen Legenda 17 :)

Well, anybody with a grain of sanity of mind left ranks Utkin somewhere below a shizophrenic idiot and the wannabe Mussolini.

Atas2000 10-10-2013 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acallabeth (Post 72274755)
The problem isn't even it's not being accurate, the problem are bad actors choices, stupid plot branches and unneeded all-around pompousness.
It also has quite a lot cursing and naked body for a 6+ movie - not a fan.

They basically had no choice. They have one prominent name on the cast and he does his job well. The rest are B-movie level actors.

Den 10-10-2013 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Atas2000 (Post 72335011)
Well, anybody with a grain of sanity of mind left ranks Utkin somewhere below a shizophrenic idiot and the wannabe Mussolini.


Ahh, no...

Atas2000 10-11-2013 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Den (Post 72342039)
Ahh, no...

Ahh, yes, and very much so. strangely there is a picture of Utkin in the Encyclopedia next to 2 articles: "idoit" and "a-hole".

Acallabeth 10-12-2013 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Den (Post 72342039)
Ahh, no...

Yes, it isn't 2003 anymore.

kp61c 10-13-2013 02:33 PM

i personally can't stand our films (mostly), the last film i saw is ostrov (lungin) and the best film in the last decade is zhmurki. one thing for sure this film has nothing to do with reality

Acallabeth 10-15-2013 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by kp61c (Post 72542513)
i personally can't stand our films (mostly), the last film i saw is ostrov (lungin) and the best film in the last decade is zhmurki.

Honestly, I liked "Stilyagi". And our war movies are generally good.

Kap-the-Head 11-30-2013 11:59 PM

I liked it (gasp). Was it historically accurate to the point? Probably not... Yet, as the director admitted himself, they were not filming a documentary. Russian cinematography lacks good sports movies, so having Legenda #17 available is step in a right direction.

I did not mind the actors’ play either, it’s not like it was horrendous. I’d watch it again. And Imho, if you take away all the historical inaccuracies, the movie is not worse than “Miracle” from the entertaining perspective.

Atas2000 12-06-2013 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Kap-the-Head (Post 75322007)
I liked it (gasp). Was it historically accurate to the point? Probably not... Yet, as the director admitted himself, they were not filming a documentary. Russian cinematography lacks good sports movies, so having Legenda #17 available is step in a right direction.

How is producing a pile of BS a step in the right direction?

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Originally Posted by Kap-the-Head (Post 75322007)
I did not mind the actors’ play either, it’s not like it was horrendous. I’d watch it again. And Imho, if you take away all the historical inaccuracies, the movie is not worse than “Miracle” from the entertaining perspective.

It was horrendous. There is a simple reason for that. Only one actor there. The rest should dwell unnoticed on B-movies and TV-garbage nobody watches unless drunk or bored to death.


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