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Matt24 04-19-2013 09:27 PM

Jonathan Toews: Most Overrated Player by Media and Most Underated by HFBoards.
 
Fair?

JSC 04-19-2013 09:28 PM

I believe that award belongs to Pavel Datsyuk.

Matt24 04-19-2013 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JSC (Post 64299711)
I believe that award belongs to Pavel Datsyuk.

They're basically 1-2. I think it's the lack of respect for defensive play/intangibles on here and the overcompensation of it by the media.

Joey Moss 04-19-2013 09:29 PM

I'd say he's both.

Djeez 04-19-2013 09:32 PM

Toews underrated on HFBoards??

''Join date: April '13''

Oh.

Matt24 04-19-2013 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Djeez (Post 64299963)
Toews underrated on HFBoards??

''Join date: April '13''

Oh.

I've been a lurker for a while. He's definitely underrated here imo. This board has a general lack of respect for defensive play/intangibles which admittedly the media has too much respect for.

ArGarBarGar 04-19-2013 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSC (Post 64299711)
I believe that award belongs to Pavel Datsyuk.

I think Datsyuk is pretty much rated fairly both by the media and the majority of HFboards.

Dominate Kesler 04-19-2013 09:36 PM

How many threads does Toews generate on a daily basis? His level of production does not warrant the amount of attention he gets on this board.

Matt24 04-19-2013 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominate Kesler (Post 64300183)
How many threads does Toews generate on a daily basis? His level of production does not warrant the amount of attention he gets on this board.

Well, I guess this answers my question...

oXo Cube 04-19-2013 09:37 PM

Toews is most certainly not underrated on HF

Dellstrom 04-19-2013 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oXo Cube (Post 64300275)
Toews is most certainly not underrated on HF

The amount of intangibles he has are underrated by everyone. I mean, his intangibles have intangibles.

Matt24 04-19-2013 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by oXo Cube (Post 64300275)
Toews is most certainly not underrated on HF

A lot of media folks are picking him for the Hart, any mention of him being more deserving of Kane here is deemed as ludicrous. There's a clear discrepancy between how the media views him and how this board does. The truth lies somewhere in between.

Bowie 04-19-2013 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oXo Cube (Post 64300275)
Toews is most certainly not underrated on HF

I think your avatar applies to the OP.

Evincar 04-19-2013 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt24 (Post 64300383)
A lot of media folks are picking him for the Hart, any mention of him being more deserving of Kane is deemed as ludicrous. There's a clear discrepancy between how the media views him and how this board does. The truth lies somewhere in between.

Toews is a media darling thats why.

Matt24 04-19-2013 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Litework (Post 64300583)
Toews is a media darling thats why.

Which makes him a natural target for an anonymous message board.

Finlandia WOAT 04-19-2013 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSC (Post 64299711)
I believe that award belongs to Pavel Datsyuk.

Pavel Datsyuk has finished top five in the last two post season top forward in 2011 and 2012.

He is incredibly overrated on these boards.

Interestingly, Toews has finished 14th and 8th in these polls, which is were I would put him. In that tier below Crosby, Malkin and Stamkos, with E. Staal, Getzlaf, Perry, Kopitar, Giroux, etc. I don't think he's underrated on HFBoards.

In the media? That Conn Smythe and TSN's 3rd best player in the world indicate that he is indeed overrated by them.

ReginKarlssonLehner 04-19-2013 09:46 PM

If you think Toews is underrated on here you're cray.

Guy is considered top 5 in the league on here, how much higher to expect him to go?

Matt24 04-19-2013 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ReginKarlssonLehner (Post 64300761)
If you think Toews is underrated on here you're cray.

Guy is considered top 5 in the league on here, how much higher to expect him to go?

The above polls that place him 14th and 8th would deem that as incorrect.

PhxHawkFan 04-19-2013 09:49 PM

Overrated by the media? How so? I would say Crosby and Ovechkin steal that show. If you only read headlines, you would think the NHL had two teams and they were the captains of each.

Calling someone underrated is a cliche though, to the point I feel like calling a player slightly better than mediocre but not quite superstar and calling them underrated are interchangeable phrases.

Underrated by HF boards, haven't been here long enough to say.

KingKopitar11* 04-19-2013 10:07 PM

Toews is a great leader and has a very good set of skills, but nothing that stands out to be honest. He is a very complete player but I don't think think he has any skill in particular that's superstar level. With that said I'd probably take Toews over Kopitar.

VinnyC 04-19-2013 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt24 (Post 64300079)
I've been a lurker for a while. He's definitely underrated here imo. This board has a general lack of respect for defensive play/intangibles which admittedly the media has too much respect for.

i think I'm being trolled.

Mrb1p 04-19-2013 10:18 PM

No no no... Toews is the most overrated by EVERY ONE.

HawkinMI 04-19-2013 10:21 PM

Can't we just say he's good? I hate overrated/underrated discussions.

There's a reason he was entrusted with the C at such a young age. The kid knows how to play the game at an elite level in all 3 zones and is great off the ice, too. He's really gotten on the team this year and you can tell. But like people have said, the only areas that he has unique skill in are faceoffs and being a leader. Everything else about his game is just very well rounded.


For whatever it's worth, he is my favorite player.

Marina 04-19-2013 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt24 (Post 64300383)
A lot of media folks are picking him for the Hart, any mention of him being more deserving of Kane here is deemed as ludicrous. There's a clear discrepancy between how the media views him and how this board does. The truth lies somewhere in between.

LOL what? You clearly don't spend a lot of time on the Blackhawks board.

This whole argument is superfluous though, I'm with HawkinMI on this one.

Leidi J 04-19-2013 10:26 PM

Overrated by both imo.

Definitely here.

Not saying he's not excellent. He is. But still overrated here. Which just shows the impressive amount of hyperbole generated by these boards that someone so good can still be so overrated.


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