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PocketNines 04-21-2013 12:29 AM

Game 45: Blues at Colorado *Blues playoff magic number is 2
 
Playoffs.

CitizenSnips 04-21-2013 12:41 AM

This is too much information to absorb in just 1 GDT

My brain hurts

PocketNines 04-21-2013 12:50 AM

It actually is too much for some people. JR's just-published story only talks of vague getting close, though no Saturday data was required for the Blues' magic number to be two, as Blues, Columbus and Dallas were all idle. Over at the Asylum (I peeked out of curiosity) they think the magic number is three :facepalm:

Blues, Columbus (1) and Dallas (2) all play Sunday. Even if the Blues lose there's a reasonably good chance they clinch the playoffs, as Columbus is in San Jose and Dallas is in LA.

The magic number is three (with Detroit) to clinch 7th and avoid Chicago in round 1. However, if the Blues win with an ROW Sunday, they clinch at least 7th also, as that would clinch the Blues over Detroit in any tiebreak scenario.

erderuft 04-21-2013 03:07 AM

Haven't really paid any closer attention to Colorado this year. Had heard that their D was pretty bad offensively this year, but had no idea just how horrible they'd really been.

Colorado has gotten a massive 3 (freakin' three) goals from their D so far this season. That's all of their defensemen, combined. Their highest point producing defenseman is Tyson Barrie with a massive 12 points. He has 2 of those 3 goals.

What of EJ? He's pretty good, right? A difference maker? Well, over 30 games he has all of 0 goals on 62 shots, 4 assists and is -3. Wow.

Let's win this game.

Bluesman91 04-21-2013 03:24 AM

Colorado always manages to squiggle their way through us somehow.

BlueDream 04-21-2013 03:32 AM

It sure is nice getting offense from your d-men. I believe the Canucks, Blues and Sharks all lead the NHL in goals from defensemen.

JustOneB4IDie 04-21-2013 06:02 AM

Goals.

Go Blues! :bb:

Thallis 04-21-2013 08:50 AM



Playoffs?!?

Dolph Ziggler 04-21-2013 10:08 AM

Colorado is like the Caterpie who inexplicably kills your Squirtle (obviously us) after your attacks continue to miss.

CarvinSigX 04-21-2013 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falco Lombardi (Post 64380025)
Colorado is like the Caterpie who inexplicably kills your Squirtle (obviously us) after your attacks continue to miss.

Who plays the role of Nurse Joy?

Linus 04-21-2013 10:44 AM

I'm too lazy to look up the last time the Blues won in Denver, but it's been way too long.

Dolph Ziggler 04-21-2013 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarvinSigX (Post 64380465)
Who plays the role of Nurse Joy?

Hopefully it's Brian Elliott.

Better yet, he can play the role of Potion, who gets you back those 20 HP points to give you another chance.

2-0 with a 0.97 GAA in his last 2 starts against the Avalanche.

CarvinSigX 04-21-2013 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falco Lombardi (Post 64381389)
Hopefully it's Brian Elliott.

Better yet, he can play the role of Potion, who gets you back those 20 HP points to give you another chance.

2-0 with a 0.97 GAA in his last 2 starts against the Avalanche.

That works. As long as they don't cast the Hustler Club as the Pokecenter, we're good.

PocketNines 04-21-2013 11:03 AM

Went back further into the numbers and scenarios. Because Dallas and Detroit play head to head in their final game, the magic number has an asterisk. First of all, 1 point eliminates Columbus from catching the Blues. And since Detroit and Dallas play each other, it's impossible for both to pass the Blues all tied at 55 points. Detroit would lose a tiebreaker at 55 points since the max they could get is 55pts, 21ROW at that number, and the Blues hold the next tiebreaker which is head to head. Dallas must win out to get to 55 points and while they would likely have the tiebreaker (need only two of those wins to be ROW), this would mean the max Detroit could get in such a scenario is also 55 points, but they would lose the tiebreaker.

So, the bottom line is one point earned by the Blues gets them into the playoffs, but it's a little different than saying the magic number is 1. Because if the Blues lose in regulation tonight and Dallas loses in OT (which would be 1 against the magic number), Dallas can still win a tiebreaker at 54 and Detroit can get to 55 even if they lose in OT to Dallas.

They still need a ROW to clinch at least 7th. If the Blues win tonight in shooutout (56pts, 21ROW), Detroit could still get to 56 with 22ROW.

Steve Doan 04-21-2013 11:15 AM

God I hope olver is playing for them..... Payback time from tarasenko.

MattyMo35 04-21-2013 11:51 AM

Go Blues. This feels like a game that we fail to show up for whatever reason.

PocketNines 04-21-2013 12:05 PM

Just a heads up, the tweets you're seeing from Kerber, JR and the Blues' official twitter feed itself are all wrong. They all say Blues need to earn two points to clinch. That is factually untrue. One point earned by the Blues will clinch, as explained above. But it's an asymmetrical magic number because one point tonight failed to be earned by Dallas does NOT clinch. So magic number technically 2, but only 1 if the Blues affirmatively earn it.

Blanick 04-21-2013 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve French (Post 64382195)
God I hope olver is playing for them..... Payback time from tarasenko.

I do hope Reaver gets a couple of nice CLEAN hits in on him but to me the sweetest payback would be Tarasenko hattrick. Awaken the beast right before the playoffs please.:yo:



Edit: Holy **** I just realized that I have gone of 1,000 post. WOOT? I spend way too much time on here.:laugh:

Steve Doan 04-21-2013 12:24 PM


PocketNines 04-21-2013 12:35 PM

As usual, Chris Kerber is digging in on math. I pointed out that only one point was needed and he told me I was wrong because the NHL says the Blues would need help. Hate to break it to you but the NHL is not to be trusted on math. Even less trusted are the writers and broadcasters trying to do math. I replied that he was still incorrect and would make any bet he liked.

Steve Doan 04-21-2013 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PocketNines (Post 64386119)
As usual, Chris Kerber is digging in on math. I pointed out that only one point was needed and he told me I was wrong because the NHL says the Blues would need help. Hate to break it to you but the NHL is not to be trusted on math. Even less trusted are the writers and broadcasters trying to do math. I replied that he was still incorrect and would make any bet he liked.

Yup. There's a thread on the business forum discussing how no NHL teams trust the league's stats, and that's why every arena has different criteria for stats. Kinda pathetic that a pro sports league cant be trusted for their own stats.

PocketNines 04-21-2013 12:49 PM

54 pts, 21 ROW (regulation loss) – worst Blues can finish is 10th.
55 pts, 21 ROW (OT loss) – worst Blues can finish is 8th.
56 pts, 21 ROW (SO win) – worst Blues can finish is 8th.
56 pts, 22 ROW (ROW) – worst Blues can finish is 7th.

bleedblue1223 04-21-2013 12:51 PM

It's pretty amusing really since teams only have 3 or 4 games left and simple addition and counting shows that just 1 point will have us in the playoffs with no additional help.

PocketNines 04-21-2013 12:59 PM

To Kerber's credit he got the DAL/DET wrinkle after I elaborated.

@chriskerber @nachofiesta very well done. Not even sure the league found that scenario. Amazing how complicated it really is.

bleedblue1223 04-21-2013 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PocketNines (Post 64387393)
To Kerber's credit he got the DAL/DET wrinkle after I elaborated.

@chriskerber @nachofiesta very well done. Not even sure the league found that scenario. Amazing how complicated it really is.

Saw that too, but more amazing how simple it is lol.


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