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Hero 04-30-2013 11:34 AM

Professionals' picks to win first round series [Surprisingly accurate]
 
Compiled the different NHL list's into one image.

http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/...ayoffpicks.png

Penguins 18/18 - Islanders 0/18
Canadiens 9/18 - Senators 9/18
Capitals 9/18 - Rangers 9/18
Bruins 15/18 - Leafs 3/18

Hawks 18/18 - Wild 0/18
Ducks 8/18 - Wings 10/18
Canucks 8/18 - Sharks 10/18
Blues 6/18 - Kings 12/18

Most one sided
Penguins +18
Hawks +18
Bruins +12
Kings +6
Wings +2
Sharks +2
Canadiens/Senators Even
Capitals/Rangers Even


Thought it was interested to clearly and concisely see what the paid professionals think is going to happen.

tarheelhockey 04-30-2013 11:35 AM

Anaheim has about 10 bulletin boards' worth of material so far this week.

Tanevian* 04-30-2013 11:37 AM

I like that you chose the term professionals over experts.

leaflover 04-30-2013 11:41 AM

Numbers look about right to me other than Detroit 10 Anaheim 8.

Kcoyote3 04-30-2013 11:44 AM

Interesting that the Sharks are predicted more than the Nucks. I wouldn't have guessed.

Ari91 04-30-2013 11:47 AM

The East seems pretty accurate to me. Pens and Bruins are heavy favourites in the first round and despite playoff seeding, I think the Sens/Habs and Caps/NYR series are dead even. I really see those series going either way.

I don't think Ducks are getting much respect with those odds but I haven't watched much of the Ducks vs Red Wings so I don't know if it's just this particular match up that favours Detroit even though the Ducks have been the better team overall.

Hero 04-30-2013 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Please Let Us Win (Post 64955097)
I like that you chose the term professionals over experts.

Thanks.

I also feel just because someone is paid to do something doesn't make them an expert at it.

swiftwin 04-30-2013 01:26 PM

Interesting for both 2-7 seeds.

Chris43 04-30-2013 01:33 PM

I see a lot of "experts" picking Detroit on name value alone.

hankdank 04-30-2013 01:46 PM

I watch a ton of hockey - but I recognize almost none of those names. Am I missing something?

Mostly American analysts I guess? Would be interested to see picks including guys like Ferraro, Dreger, MacKenzie, Ward, Friedmen, Duthie, Kypreos, McGuire etc., just because I know their tendencies and biases.

Lshap 04-30-2013 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Please Let Us Win (Post 64955097)
I like that you chose the term professionals over experts.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hero (Post 64956047)
Thanks.

I also feel just because someone is paid to do something doesn't make them an expert at it.

Great list and an even better assessment of its value. Well done!

joe89 04-30-2013 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by hankdank (Post 64962437)
I watch a ton of hockey - but I recognize almost none of those names. Am I missing something?

Mostly American analysts I guess? Would be interested to see picks including guys like Ferraro, Dreger, MacKenzie, Ward, Friedmen, Duthie, Kypreos, McGuire etc., just because I know their tendencies and biases.

I think the catch is that all of these people work for NHL.com/Network, maybe not exclusively but on occasions.

hankdank 04-30-2013 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by joe89 (Post 64962595)
I think the catch is that all of these people work for NHL.com/Network, maybe not exclusively but on occasions.

Ah ok- that makes sense then!

Killemdeader 04-30-2013 01:58 PM

I don't get why the Sharks and Wings are favored, and the Sens are even. I understand that the Ducks and Montreal didn't go out strong, but even so the mismatch in depth is colossal between Ducks/Montreal and Sens/Wings.

And I don't know where the Sharks are better than the Canucks anywhere. The Canucks have better forward depth, better defensive depth and goaltending is a wash at best. And the Sharks don't have home ice, got a large percentage of their points in the shootout, and were pretty bad on the road. Doesn't make sense to me.

mrmyheadhurts 04-30-2013 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kcoyote3 (Post 64955497)
Interesting that the Sharks are predicted more than the Nucks. I wouldn't have guessed.

Fair or not, the Canucks have been written off all season. Could be a good thing for the team going in as an underdog, although the year they went to the Finals they were the overwhelming favourite, so who knows...

I'm actually surprised it's only a 2 point difference, was expecting a lot more people to pick the Sharks.

YogiCanucks 04-30-2013 02:06 PM

wait... Damien Cox didn't pick the Caucks?! Sir I am shocked. SHOCKED.

Timmy 04-30-2013 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Killemdeader (Post 64963041)

And I don't know where the Sharks are better than the Canucks anywhere. The Canucks have better forward depth, better defensive depth and goaltending is a wash at best. And the Sharks don't have home ice, got a large percentage of their points in the shootout, and were pretty bad on the road. Doesn't make sense to me.

Not counting SJ's strengths, I'd think that an outsider's top three concerns regarding Vancouver's weaknesses (rightly or wrongly) in no particular order would be:

Schneider's status
Lackadaisical finish once the division was sewn up
Last year's first-round exit

Hero 04-30-2013 02:09 PM

Funny the only 3 potential upsets could be the Isles/Wild/Leafs

Rare to have a 1st round with 5/8 series considered to be so close, while the other 3 are set to be blow outs.

caps4cup 04-30-2013 02:10 PM

Wow SJ is a favorite? They have 17 ROW's. That's less Carolina and Calgary and the same as Edmonton and Tampa.

They've pretty much won 1/3rd of their games that would be wins in the playoffs. There's no loser point/shootout in the playoffs.

Hero 04-30-2013 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caps4cup (Post 64963793)
Wow SJ is a favorite? They have 17 ROW's. That's less Carolina and Calgary and the same as Edmonton and Tampa.

They've pretty much won 1/3rd of their games that would be wins in the playoffs. There's no loser point/shootout in the playoffs.

I've heard a lot of pro's going with the idea that Van city has a lot of pressure on them while the Sharks have none.

Both are frustrated teams in the playoffs looking for some success.

Hero 04-30-2013 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caps4cup (Post 64963793)
Wow SJ is a favorite? They have 17 ROW's. That's less Carolina and Calgary and the same as Edmonton and Tampa.

They've pretty much won 1/3rd of their games that would be wins in the playoffs. There's no loser point/shootout in the playoffs.

They're pretty much even

Wings +2
Sharks +2
Canadiens/Senators Even
Capitals/Rangers Even


All 1 to 0 votes away from being even.

LickTheEnvelope 04-30-2013 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killemdeader (Post 64963041)
And I don't know where the Sharks are better than the Canucks anywhere. The Canucks have better forward depth, better defensive depth and goaltending is a wash at best. And the Sharks don't have home ice, got a large percentage of their points in the shootout, and were pretty bad on the road. Doesn't make sense to me.

Canucks have played awful, awful hockey for over a year and a half though (aside from a handful of games).

The home ice will be key, but if the Canucks lose game one they are the type of team that will just fold it up and go golfing.

Canucks, in 2011, had the best powerplay, best penalty kill, best face-off % and were a top 5 team @ 5 on 5.

This year they are significantly lower in all those areas and from Jan 2012 to the beginning of April 2013 the Canucks had by far the worst powerplay in the NHL (a hair over 12%). The Canucks are also a bottom 5 team in the NHL in faceoffs these days, even with Kesler a bottom 10 at best.

mrmyheadhurts 04-30-2013 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timmy (Post 64963699)
Not counting SJ's strengths, I'd think that an outsider's top three concerns regarding Vancouver's weaknesses (rightly or wrongly) in no particular order would be:

Schneider's status
Lackadaisical finish once the division was sewn up
Last year's first-round exit

I would add to that list that I think a lot of hockey writers have made the assumption that the Luongo/Schneider situation has been a detrimental distraction and the team is out of sorts. Especially after an emotional deadline day, the general consensus is that the Canucks won't be a cohesive team until Luongo is moved.

I believe the outside perception generally is that the Canucks are a mess.

Again, fair or not, that's my read on how hockey experts are looking at this series.

No Style Points 04-30-2013 02:20 PM

hum! these are actually my picks, except that I picked Habs and Caps too. neat.

Auger 04-30-2013 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris43 (Post 64961689)
I see a lot of "experts" picking Detroit on name value alone.

aka "they don't agree with my opinion"


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