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Beau Knows 05-05-2013 05:06 PM

Defense: Ovechkin vs Crosby
 
Who is the better defensive player of these 2 offensive stars?

markz* 05-05-2013 05:13 PM


Asking a board when 7-8/10 people are from my own Country :laugh:? I live in Canada and I'm sure Crosby will win by 80-90% - book it :laugh:


Hfboards : Opinion from mainly my homeland vs Video Proof :)



That's also 1-on-1 not some other Pens defensemen pushing Ovechkin and Crosby getting the Puck

Beau Knows 05-05-2013 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markz (Post 65358631)

Asking a board when 7-8/10 people are from my own Country :laugh:? I live in Canada and I'm sure Crosby will win by 80-90% - book it :laugh:

Source?

markz* 05-05-2013 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beau Knows (Post 65358721)
Source?

You can't see the flags for people here :laugh:

Beau Knows 05-05-2013 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markz (Post 65358841)
You can't see the flags for people here :laugh:

You've counted the flags and determined the percentage of Canadian fans on the boards?

Kamal007 05-05-2013 05:20 PM

TIL: Hitting = defense

Crosby, AINEC

markz* 05-05-2013 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beau Knows (Post 65359053)
You've counted the flags and determined the percentage of Canadian fans on the boards?

Calm down dude, it's no secret that mostly Canadians are on this board. If you can't see the abundance of flags for Canada, then see you later ;) I already said, Ovechkin 5 MVP trophies - 3 Rockets - 1 Art Ross - lead PPG 3 years in a Row 2008-10 and GPG 2008-10 and 2013

Also posted the Video of Oveckin playing defense on Crosby - Proof

Your proof: forum (opinionated)

edit: My point was proved- but it's only an internet poll on what maybe 100 people? aren't there about 100 million+ fans of Hockey around the World (maybe only 10 millon Canadians) - That's what I thought :)

LSnow 05-05-2013 05:22 PM

Not that Crosby is even near at winning the Selke, he is quite a bit better at his own end than Ovetshkin, but he also has to be since he plays center.

avsman 05-05-2013 05:25 PM

I love Ovechkin, and hate Crosby, but come on. This is easily Crosby

Beau Knows 05-05-2013 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markz (Post 65359423)
already said, Ovechkin 5 MVP trophies - 3 Rockets - 1 Art Ross - lead PPG 3 years in a Row 2008-10 and GPG 2008-10 and 2013

What's any of this have to do with defense?

Sky04 05-05-2013 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beau Knows (Post 65359809)
What's any of this have to do with defense?

Nothing, he's just getting defensive.

Sakic19Duchene9 05-05-2013 06:49 PM

Picked Ovechkin just to make it a bit closer.. Never knew I would be the only one lol....

Follower of Yzlam 05-05-2013 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sky04 (Post 65360143)
Nothing, he's just getting defensive.

Clever grill...

TheRollingPuck 05-05-2013 07:37 PM

Crosby. You might have a poll if you switched Crosby for Malkin.

bumperkisser 05-05-2013 07:40 PM

wait. is this a real poll? crosby by a mile...

Dr Robot 05-05-2013 08:16 PM

Crosby used to be an absolute train wreck defensively, just terrible. Hes gotten better but its hard to really see statistically how much better hes gotten since he hasn't played 80 games in a couple years now. Going by this year you can expect crosby to be on the ice for a 5v5 goal against every 24 minutes and Ovy every 19. They both face pretty even qualcomp. Crosbys zonestart was 48% which was about middle of the pack on his team for forwards. Ovies was 54%, highest on his. Crosby had 28 give aways, 15 take aways. Ovie 25 give aways 30 take aways.

Just going by numbers this season, crosby is better but neither of them are good. Let me compare them after theyve both played 80 games in the same season and ill let you know because small sample sizes can make anyone look like anything.

Left Circle OneTimer 05-05-2013 08:33 PM

Crosby has already been on the ice for 4 playoff goals (4x more than his team had given up when he was not in the lineup) in just two games back and Tavares almost punished him with another due to bad defensive play today. He is just as bad defensively as Ovechkin and his defense is severely overrated.



:sarcasm:

Teeder9 05-05-2013 08:46 PM

Crosby is better, but neither is looking at a Selke win ever. Crosby isn't even good defensively. Just responsible

Ovechkin = JVR
Crosby = Bozak
Bergeron = exponentially better than all 4 combined

Eisen 05-05-2013 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LSnow (Post 65359541)
Not that Crosby is even near at winning the Selke, he is quite a bit better at his own end than Ovetshkin, but he also has to be since he plays center.

This. And it's spelled Owetschkin ;)

powerbomb 05-05-2013 09:56 PM

Honestly this isn't even close. Ovechkin is a huge difference maker with his hitting and goal scoring, not his defense. It just isn't one of his responsibilities.

Rowdy Roddy Peeper 05-05-2013 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markz (Post 65358631)
Asking a board when 7-8/10 people are from my own Country :laugh:?

Wonder how Datsyuk and Lidstrom and Zetterberg managed to win all those defensive polls against Canadians.

Quote:

Originally Posted by markz (Post 65359423)
Also posted the Video of Oveckin playing defense on Crosby - Proof

Using a video of a player making a hit in the neutral zone as proof of good defense is clueless.

Islanderfan17 05-05-2013 11:18 PM

Crosby AINEFC

octopi 05-05-2013 11:23 PM

Uh, Crosby for this one. Duh.

Now, do goal scoring.

MakeTheGoalsLarger 05-06-2013 07:15 AM

you'dd make a poll with ovechkin and some guy that don't even know and i would pick the other guy by default.

lboogie42* 05-06-2013 07:36 AM

crosby by a mile


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