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#57 05-07-2013 03:27 PM

Player ratings for NHL14
 
I'm gonna use this thread to post my take on the player ratings for NHL14. Feel free to post yours. I will start with the eliminated teams:

Buffalo Sabres -

Thomas Vanek - 87
Cody Hodgson - 82
Tyler Ennis - 80
Ville Leino - 77
Drew Stafford - 77
Marcus Foligno - 77
Steve Ott - 76
Nathan Gerbe - 76
Jochen Hecht - 75
Brian Flynn - 74
Kevin Porter - 74
Patrick Kaleta - 74
Matt Ellis - 73
Cody McCormick - 73
John Scott - 72
Luke Adam - 72
Mikhail Grigorenko - 72

Christian Ehrhoff - 83
Tyler Myers - 78
Andrej Sekera - 77
Mike Weber - 77
Alexander Sulzer - 76
Mark Pysyk - 75
Adam Pardy - 74
Brayden McNabb - 73
Chad Ruhwedel - 72

Ryan Miller - 87
Jhonas Enroth - 81
Matthew Hackett - 76

#57 05-07-2013 03:30 PM

Calgary Flames -

Mike Cammalleri - 82
Alex Tanguay - 81
Curtis Glencross - 80
Lee Stempniak - 79
Jiri Hudler - 78
Matt Stajan - 77
Mikael Backlund - 76
Roman Cervenka - 76
Sven Baertschi - 76
Roman Horak - 75
Steve Begin - 74
Tim Jackman - 74
Blair Jones - 73
Brian McGrattan - 73
Maxwell Reinhart - 72
Ben Hanowski - 72

Mark Giordano - 81
Dennis Wideman - 79
TJ Brodie - 77
Anton Babchuk - 77
Chris Butler - 76
Cory Sarich - 75
Derek Smith - 75
Mark Cundari - 73
Brett Carson - 72

Miikka Kiprusoff - 85
Joey MacDonald - 79
Leland Irving - 76
Daniel Taylor - 74

#57 05-07-2013 03:32 PM

Carolina Hurricanes -

Eric Staal - 88
Alexander Semin - 84
Jordan Staal - 82
Jiri Tlusty - 79
Jeff Skinner - 78
Tuomo Ruutu - 78
Patrick Dwyer - 76
Chad Larose - 76
Riley Nash - 75
Tim Brent - 74
Drayson Bowman - 74
Tim Wallace - 73
Kevin Westgarth - 73
Zac Dalpe - 73
Andreas Nodl - 73
Zachary Boychuk - 73
Jeremy Welsh - 72

Joni Pitkanen - 81
Tim Gleason - 78
Justin Faulk - 77
Joe Corvo - 77
Jamie McBain - 76
Jay Harrison - 76
Marc-Andre Bergeron - 75
Ryan Murphy - 74
Bobby Sanguinetti - 74
Brett Bellemore - 73

Cam Ward - 86
Dan Ellis - 79
Justin Peters - 78

#57 05-07-2013 03:34 PM

Colorado Avalanche -

Matt Duchene - 84
Pierre-Alexandre Parenteau - 82
Gabriel Landeskog - 80
Ryan O'Reilly - 80
Paul Stastny - 79
Milan Hejduk - 78
Jamie McGinn - 77
John Mitchell - 76
David Jones - 76
Steve Downie - 76
Aaron Palushaj - 74
Chuck Kobasew - 74
Cody McLeod - 74
Mark Olver - 74
Patrick Bordeleau - 73
Tomas Vincour - 72

Erik Johnson - 80
Jan Hejda - 78
Ryan Wilson - 77
Tyson Barrie - 76
Greg Zanon - 76
Matt Hunwick - 76
Shane O'Brien - 75
Stefan Elliott - 74

Semyon Varlamov - 85
Jean-Sebastien Giguere - 82

#57 05-07-2013 03:37 PM

Columbus Blue Jackets -

Marian Gaborik - 84
Vaclav Prospal - 79
Brandon Dubinsky - 79
Artem Anisimov - 78
Mark Letestu - 77
RJ Umberger - 77
Nick Foligno - 77
Cam Atkinson - 76
Ryan Johansen - 76
Matthew Calvert - 75
Blake Comeau - 75
Derek MacKenzie - 74
Jared Boll - 73
Colton Gillies - 73

Jack Johnson - 82
Fedor Tyutin - 81
James Wisniewski - 79
Nikita Nikitin - 77
Dalton Prout - 75
Tim Erixon - 75
Adrian Aucoin - 75
Ryan Murray - 74
Cody Goloubef - 73
David Savard - 72

Sergei Bobrovsky - 86
Michael Leighton - 78

#57 05-07-2013 03:39 PM

Dallas Stars -

Jamie Benn - 83
Loui Eriksson - 82
Ray Whitney - 81
Cody Eakin - 77
Erik Cole - 77
Antoine Roussel - 76
Vernon Fiddler - 76
Reilly Smith - 75
Alex Chiasson - 75
Ryan Garbutt - 74
Eric Nystrom - 74
Tom Wandell - 73
Matt Fraser - 73
Toby Petersen - 73
Lane MacDermid - 72
Colton Sceviour - 72
Francis Wathier - 72

Alex Goligoski - 79
Stephane Robidas - 78
Trevor Daley - 78
Brenden Dillon - 77
Jordie Benn - 76
Philip Larsen - 76
Aaron Rome - 74
Jamie Oleksiak - 74

Kari Lehtonen - 86
Richard Bachman - 78
Christopher Nilstorp - 74

#57 05-07-2013 03:41 PM

Edmonton Oilers -

Taylor Hall - 84
Jordan Eberle - 82
Sam Gagner - 80
Ales Hemsky - 79
Nail Yakupov - 79
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins - 78
Shawn Horcoff - 76
Magnus Paajarvi - 76
Ryan Smyth - 75
Ryan Jones - 74
Eric Belanger - 74
Jerred Smithson - 74
Teemu Hartikainen - 74
Lennart Petrell - 74
Mike Brown - 73
Ben Eager - 73
Darcy Hordichuk - 73
Anton Lander - 72
Chris Vande Velde - 72

Ladislav Smid - 78
Justin Schultz - 78
Jeff Petry - 77
Nick Schultz - 77
Ryan Whitney - 76
Mark Fistric - 76
Corey Potter - 75
Theo Peckham - 74

Devan Dubnyk - 83
Nikolai Khabibulin - 82
Yann Danis - 75

#57 05-07-2013 03:43 PM

Florida Panthers -

Tomas Fleischmann - 81
Kris Versteeg - 81
Jonathan Huberdeau - 79
Stephen Weiss - 79
Tomas Kopecky - 77
Shawn Matthias - 76
Peter Mueller - 76
Marcel Goc - 76
Drew Shore - 75
Jack Skille - 75
Scottie Upshall - 74
George Parros - 73
Nick Bjugstad - 72
Quinton Howden - 72

Brian Campbell - 83
Ed Jovanovski - 78
Dmitry Kulikov - 78
Filip Kuba - 76
Erik Gudbranson - 76
Mike Weaver - 76
TJ Brennan - 75
Tyson Strachan - 74
Colby Robak - 73
Alex Petrovic - 72

Jose Theodore - 82
Jacob Markstrom - 81
Scott Clemmensen - 78

#57 05-07-2013 03:45 PM

Nashville Predators -

David Legwand - 79
Colin Wilson - 78
Patric Hornqvist - 78
Mike Fisher - 78
Sergei Kostitsyn - 77
Gabriel Bourque - 76
Nick Spaling - 76
Taylor Beck - 75
Paul Gaustad - 75
Matt Halischuk - 75
Craig Smith - 74
Bobby Butler - 74
Brandon Yip - 74
Richard Clune - 73
Chris Mueller - 72
Filip Forsberg - 72

Shea Weber - 87
Roman Josi - 78
Kevin Klein - 77
Victor Barltey - 76
Jon Blum - 76
Ryan Ellis - 76
Hal Gill - 74
Mattias Ekholm - 73

Pekka Rinne - 87
Chris Mason - 78

#57 05-07-2013 03:47 PM

New Jersey Devils -

Ilya Kovalchuk - 89
Patrik Elias - 85
David Clarkson - 78
Dainius Zubrus - 78
Travis Zajac - 78
Adam Henrique - 78
Steve Sullivan - 77
Andrei Loktionov - 76
Alexei Ponikarovsky - 75
Matt D'Agostini - 75
Stephen Gionta - 75
Ryan Carter - 75
Steve Bernier - 75
Jacob Josefson - 74
Tom Kostopoulos - 74
Stefan Matteau - 73
Krys Barch - 73
Mattias Tedenby - 72

Andy Greene - 78
Marek Zidlicky - 78
Adam Larsson - 77
Anton Volchenkov - 77
Bryce Salvador - 77
Mark Fayne - 76
Henrik Tallinder - 76
Peter Harrold - 74
Alexander Urbom - 73

Martin Brodeur - 85
Johan Hedberg - 80

#57 05-07-2013 03:49 PM

Philadelphia Flyers -

Claude Giroux - 88
Jakub Voracek - 85
Wayne Simmonds - 78
Scott Hartnell - 78
Brayden Schenn - 77
Daniel Briere - 77
Matt Read - 77
Simon Gagne - 76
Sean Couturier - 76
Maxime Talbot - 75
Ruslan Fedotenko - 75
Mike Knuble - 74
Tye McGinn - 73
Adam Hall - 73
Zac Rinaldo - 73
Jay Rosehill - 72
Jody Shelley - 72

Kimmo Timonen - 82
Braydon Coburn - 79
Andrej Meszaros - 79
Luke Schenn - 78
Erik Gustafsson - 76
Oliver Lauridsen - 75
Nicklas Grossman - 75
Kurtis Foster - 74
Kent Huskins - 74
Bruno Gervais - 74
Andreas Lilja - 74

Steve Mason - 83
Ilya Bryzgalov - 82
Brian Boucher - 79

#57 05-07-2013 03:51 PM

Phoenix Coyotes -

Shane Doan - 82
Radim Vrbata - 81
Mikkel Boedker - 79
Martin Hanzal - 79
Antoine Vermette - 78
David Moss - 77
Lauri Korpikoski - 76
Kyle Chipchura - 75
Boyd Gordon - 75
Rob Klinkhammer - 74
Nick Johnson - 74
Paul Bissonnette - 73
Alexandre Bolduc - 72

Oliver Ekman-Larsson - 84
Keith Yandle - 84
Zbynek Michalek - 79
Rostislav Klesla - 78
Derek Morris - 77
Michael Stone - 75
David Schlemko - 75
David Rundblad - 73
Chris Summers - 72

Mike Smith - 85
Jason Labarbera - 80
Chad Johnson - 78

#57 05-07-2013 03:53 PM

Tampa Bay Lightning -

Steven Stamkos - 91
Martin St.Louis - 88
Vincent Lecavalier - 83
Teddy Purcell - 81
Ryan Malone - 77
Benoit Pouliot - 77
Alex Killorn - 77
Tom Pyatt - 75
Nate Thompson - 75
BJ Crombeen - 74
Richard Panik - 74
Pierre-Cedric Labrie - 74
Tyler Johnson - 74
Ondrej Palat - 73
Dana Tyrell - 73
Brett Connolly - 72

Sami Salo - 79
Victor Hedman - 79
Matt Carle - 78
Eric Brewer - 77
Radko Gudas - 76
Keith Aulie - 75
Brian Lee - 73
Andrej Sustr - 72

Ben Bishop - 82
Anders Lindback - 81
Mathieu Garon - 80
Cedrick Desjardins - 75

#57 05-07-2013 03:54 PM

Winnipeg Jets -

Andrew Ladd - 83
Blake Wheeler - 82
Evander Kane - 80
Bryan Little - 79
Olli Jokinen - 77
Nikolai Antropov - 76
Kyle Wellwood - 75
Alexander Burmistrov - 75
Antti Miettinen - 74
Jim Slater - 74
Chris Thorburn - 74
James Wright - 74
Eric Tangradi - 74
Mike Santorelli - 74
Mark Scheifele - 73
Patrice Cormier - 72

Dustin Byfuglien - 83
Tobias Enstrom - 82
Zach Bogosian - 78
Ron Hainsey - 77
Mark Stuart - 77
Zach Redmond - 76
Grant Clitsome - 75
Paul Postma - 75
Derek Meech - 74

Ondrej Pavelec - 84
Al Montoya - 81

ChevyWarrior93 05-07-2013 04:04 PM

dude, none of these overalls make any sense, nobody would buy the game if they were like this, brayden coburn had a good season so you make him -6, giroux becomes captain-2, Clarkson does wicked, 78 overall, you give nashville 1 skater above 80, justin schultz was one of the best rookie defensemen, so you make him 78, huberdeau wins calder, 78, gaborik 84, jack johnson 82? really? Erik Johnson 80, cause you know they are just gonna drop 8 overall on a top minutes defensemen. Skog wins calder and named captain, 80 overall. TJ Brodie, Mikael Backlund and Lee Stempniak have probably the best season of their careers, and they are all below 80. Giordano will forsure be an 85-87 next game. Cammalleri an 82? What a joke. And you think they will drop Tyler Myers down to a 78? down 9 overall? wow, just wow. Im sure you would put all your favorite teams players up in the 90s.

Pierce Hawthorne 05-07-2013 04:22 PM

Honestly, these are pretty bad IMO.

Most in not all guys are way to low and this is coming from someone who actually prefers the skill gap in this years game compared to past games in terms of a rank.


Top line Players(PPG Forwards/Top pairing Dmen) should all be 85+ no question about it.

Then the boarderline Top line/2nd liners should be in the 82-85 range.

2nd liners should all be 78-83ish.

3rd liners 75-80

4th liners 75 or lower

2nd pairind Dmen should be 79-84

3rd Pairind 78 and lower.



Ill do just the Avs(My team) and what I think they should be.


Matt Duchene - 87
PA Paranteau - 86
Paul Stastny - 84
Ryan Oreilly - 82
Gabriel Landeskog - 82
Jamie McGinn - 80
Steve Downie - 80
John Mitchell - 77
David Jones - 75
Cody McCleod - 74
Aaron Palushaj - 74
Mark Olver- 72
Tomas Vincour - 72
Patrik Bordeleau - 70


Erik Johnson - 84
Tyson Barrie - 81
Jan Hejda - 80
Stefan Elliott - 77
Ryan Wilson - 77
Matt Hunwick - 76
Shane Obrien - 75
Greg Zanon - 73

Semyon Varlamov - 81
JS Giguere - 78

slightlystewpid420 05-07-2013 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #57 (Post 65514739)
Columbus Blue Jackets -

Marian Gaborik - 88(loses one point after a "down" season with a groin injury)
Vaclav Prospal - 79(loses one point due to age)
Brandon Dubinsky - 80(missed large amount of games in a shortned season due to injury)
Artem Anisimov - 83
Mark Letestu - 81(finished with more points than an INJURED Gaborik
RJ Umberger - 80
Nick Foligno - 82
Cam Atkinson - 80(still goes up even though he had a ankle injury which he never quite recovered from until the last few games)
Ryan Johansen - 82(INSANE DEFENSIVE PLAYER)
Matthew Calvert - 78 (Very consistent player on both sides of the ice until he broke a finger which sidelined him for the last few games)
Blake Comeau - 75
Derek MacKenzie - 74
Jared Boll - 73
Colton Gillies - 73

Jack Johnson - 87 Its Jack Mother F U CKing Johnson..
Fedor Tyutin - 85 - One of the Jackets best defensmen this year.
James Wisniewski - 83
Nikita Nikitin - 77
Dalton Prout - 75 <- You did a good job here though!
Tim Erixon - 75
Adrian Aucoin - 72
Ryan Murray - 78 Already better than all of our defensmen besides Johnson and Tyutin, and also better than Wiz defensively, with the potential to put up Wiz-like numbers.
Cody Goloubef - 73
David Savard - 72

Sergei Bobrovsky - 86 <- Maybe a little high, only time will tell but that was spot on as well.
Michael Leighton - 78

Fixed

TherapyforGlencross 05-07-2013 04:45 PM

I like the Flames ratings, but up Brodie's OVR, the guy Is looking like a #2 defenseman.

ChevyWarrior93 05-07-2013 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by #57 (Post 65514305)
Calgary Flames -

Mike Cammalleri - 87
Alex Tanguay - 84
Curtis Glencross - 84
Lee Stempniak - 73
Jiri Hudler - 81
Matt Stajan - 82
Mikael Backlund - 84
Roman Cervenka - 80
Sven Baertschi - 83
Roman Horak - 75 - From Here
Steve Begin - 74
Tim Jackman - 74
Blair Jones - 73
Brian McGrattan - 73 To here where spot on
Maxwell Reinhart - 76
Ben Hanowski - 74

Mark Giordano - 86
Dennis Wideman - 83
TJ Brodie - 83
Anton Babchuk - 79
Chris Butler - 80
Cory Sarich - 80
Derek Smith - 77
Mark Cundari - 78
Brett Carson - 76

Miikka Kiprusoff - 85
Joey MacDonald - 81
Leland Irving - 80
Daniel Taylor - 77

Much better

That Habs Fan 05-07-2013 05:20 PM

Montreal Canadiens

Plekanec-86
Bourque-84
Eller-83
Pacioretty-83
Gallagher-82
Gionta-81
Galchenyuk-80
Ryder-80
Desharnais-79
Prust-79
White-78
Moen-76
Armstrong-76

Subban-88
Markov-84
Gorges-83
Emelin-81
Diaz-78
Tinordi-77
Bouillon-77

Price-88
Budaj-81

Pierce Hawthorne 05-07-2013 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahabsfanfromtoronto (Post 65519909)
Montreal Canadiens

Plekanec-86
Bourque-84
Eller-83
Pacioretty-83
Gallagher-82
Gionta-81
Galchenyuk-80
Ryder-80
Desharnais-79
Prust-79
White-78
Moen-76
Armstrong-76


Subban-88
Markov-84
Gorges-83
Emelin-81
Diaz-78
Tinordi-77
Bouillon-77


Price-88
Budaj-81



Bolded are all way to high. The bottom 6 forwards are going to be lower 70's based on NHL 13's rankings. Same thing with the bottom pairing Dmen.

And theres not a chance in hell Budaj gets above an 80. Even the best backups are only mid-high 70's. Budaj will be around a 75.

n00bxQb 05-07-2013 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierce Hawthorne (Post 65522075)
Bolded are all way to high. The bottom 6 forwards are going to be lower 70's based on NHL 13's rankings. Same thing with the bottom pairing Dmen.

And theres not a chance in hell Budaj gets above an 80. Even the best backups are only mid-high 70's. Budaj will be around a 75.

Yeah, here's the problem though and anyone who customizes their rosters for BAGM will tell you this: Anyone below an 80 is out of the NHL within 3 years (usually less) regardless if they're under contract or not.

A 75 overall goaltender is generally listed as a minor league backup. Is Budaj a minor league backup or an NHL backup? NHL backups are 79-83 OVR after a single season in NHL 13.

Of course, I hope EA actually re-works their rating system (instead of just saying it but not actually taking the steps to implement it properly), but we all know that will never happen. We're going to get the same garbage system we got this year where mediocre 24-year-old prospects 3-star who will probably never see the light of an NHL arena in real life take all the bottom 6, bottom pair, and backup positions in the league after 1 season.

How EA's system really is in BAGM after 1 season (using November rosters):

88-95 OVR = Elite (Top 30 forwards)
85-88 OVR = 1st liner (Top 90)
82-85 OVR = 2nd liner (Top 180)
79-82 OVR = 3rd liner (Top 270)
78-79 OVR = 4th liner (Top 360)
76-78 OVR = Depth (Top 450)

#57 05-07-2013 07:54 PM

I really did not base myself on the current ratings at all. EA ratings are a joke and way too high overall. Most 2nd/3rd line players are interchangeable and should be around 77-82 overall, like I posted above. It's important for guys like Stamkos or Kovalchuk to have big gaps versus 2nd tier players.

I really don't care if Myers is an 86 or Marc-Andre Bergeron and 84, we all know EA knows squat about rating NHL players. I have rated most players on the ''low'' to keep things realistic. If you look at the ratings in relation to all the others I've posted, they are good IMO. If you think 3rd liners should be 80 ov and most of the teams 84, then that's your problem.

#57 05-07-2013 07:56 PM

You gotta put things in perspective. I'm looking at the ''fix'' the CBJ guy did on my ratings for the Jackets. Gaborik has been pretty hot and cold and injuries have slowed him down, he's an 88? Atkinson 80? Johansen 82? Those two have barely played 30 good NHL games. If those are your ratings for CBJ, then Crosby is 107, Ovechkin 104 and Stamkos 101. Sorry man.

Cammalleri 87? Tanguy 84? WOW...... Again, where do you rank Crosby if Cammy is an 87? Crosby is not perfect, he cannot be 99 everywhere.....

#57 05-07-2013 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pierce Hawthorne (Post 65517417)
Honestly, these are pretty bad IMO.

Top line Players(PPG Forwards/Top pairing Dmen) should all be 85+ no question about it.

Then the boarderline Top line/2nd liners should be in the 82-85 range.

2nd liners should all be 78-83ish.


Matt Duchene - 87
PA Paranteau - 86
Paul Stastny - 84
Ryan Oreilly - 82
Gabriel Landeskog - 82

Erik Johnson - 84
Tyson Barrie - 81
Jan Hejda - 80

Those are the parameters I have followed or thereabout. According to you Parenteau is a top of the line 1st liner? Stastny a 1st liner? Barrie a top 2nd-pairing guy? Sorry but I do not agree at all. Duchene struggled last year and had a good rebound season, but not enough to close in on Crosby or Ovechkin at all. Same for O'Reilly and Landeskog they have not proven enough yet, bump them down a little bit. You exagerated those ratings. The Avs miss the playoffs (AGAIN), may I remind you.


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