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sunb 05-08-2005 08:43 PM

The Best American Player of All-Time
 
Who is it?

DontCallPlayersStuds 05-08-2005 08:48 PM

either pat lafontaine or brian leetch.

reckoning 05-08-2005 08:55 PM

1. Chris Chelios
2. Mike Modano
3. Brian Leetch
4. Joe Mullen
5. Mike Richter
6. Mark Howe
7. Pat LaFontaine
8. Jeremy Roenick
9. Phil Housely
10. Doug Weight

I consider Brett Hull a Canadian. I would`ve loved to put Joel Otto on here, but couldn`t bump anyone off for him.

se7en* 05-08-2005 08:58 PM

Blake Wheeler!?

I voted for Lafontaine.

sunb 05-08-2005 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reckoning
1. Chris Chelios
2. Mike Modano
3. Brian Leetch
4. Joe Mullen
5. Mike Richter
6. Mark Howe
7. Pat LaFontaine
8. Jeremy Roenick
9. Phil Housely
10. Doug Weight

I consider Brett Hull a Canadian. I would`ve loved to put Joel Otto on here, but couldn`t bump anyone off for him.

I forgot Howe was American - I always saw him as the son of Gordie Howe.

Spitfire11 05-08-2005 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reckoning
1. Chris Chelios
2. Mike Modano
3. Brian Leetch
4. Joe Mullen
5. Mike Richter
6. Mark Howe
7. Pat LaFontaine
8. Jeremy Roenick
9. Phil Housely
10. Doug Weight

I consider Brett Hull a Canadian. I would`ve loved to put Joel Otto on here, but couldn`t bump anyone off for him.

Very good list, but Langway definitely belongs on there. I'd put him somewhere from 3-6. I'd also move Lafontaine up a spot or two.

CoupeStanley 05-08-2005 09:02 PM

Lafontaine was one heck of a hockey machine

reckoning 05-08-2005 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jovanovski = Norris
I forgot Howe was American - I always saw him as the son of Gordie Howe.

I completely overlooked Langway; probably should`ve had him between #4 and #8.

Pavel 05-08-2005 09:08 PM

My top 5

1. Chelios
2. Leetch
3. Lafontaine
4. Richter
5. Mullen

VanIslander 05-08-2005 09:30 PM

Where's the Calder and two-time Vezina winning goalie who is also on the Stanley Cup twice?
:confused:
Or are we pulling an NHL2night, and being biased for the modern era?
(Then remove "of all time"!)

SkateLikeTheWind 05-08-2005 09:32 PM

I say if LaFontaine played a longer career, he takes the cake without question.

But his shortened career opens the debate up.

reckoning 05-08-2005 09:32 PM

Which American finished highest on the Pogopogologoponogopo points system?

Habsfan 32 05-08-2005 09:37 PM

I said Leetch but if LaFontaine had a longer career I would of voted for him.

Chilly Willy* 05-08-2005 09:48 PM

Pat Lafontaine and Joe Mullen, those are the 2 guys i think of when people ask me who do you think is the best american player. I can't pick one over the other, i was a fan of both players.

John Flyers Fan 05-08-2005 09:49 PM

Frankie Brimsek, Neal Broten and John Vanbiesbrouck should be on the list.

1. Chris Chelios
2. Brian Leetch
T3. Jeremy Roenick
T3. Mike Modano
5. Pat Lafontaine

Joey Mullen is the most overated of all the Americans and shouldn't be in the top 10, he'd be borderline op 15.

** My top 5 doesn't consider Brett Hull.

Rabid Ranger 05-08-2005 09:51 PM

As much of a Leetch homer as I am, I voted for Chris Chelios. Three time Norris Trophy winner, and was able to play it every way equally well. Great player, and one of the best defenseman of all-time.


* Brett Hull should be on this list. He's just as much an American as any of the guys listed.

FLYLine24 05-08-2005 09:54 PM

Screw Brett Hull, lost all respect for him after his comments durning the WC last Aug/Sept.

VanIslander 05-08-2005 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rabid Ranger
* Brett Hull should be on this list. He's just as much an American as any of the guys listed.

Don Cherry is also an American citizen but he's not considered as such these days.

But I guess Hull's donning of the U.S. uniform to try and beat Canada qualifies him as non-Canadian.

But if we play the immigration game, Petr Nedved is a Canadian citizen and he represented Canada very well in 1994 being a key player in bringing home a medal (a fact often missed on many).

Chilly Willy* 05-08-2005 09:56 PM

No, Bret Hull was born in Canada, regardless of the fact that he played for Team USA (because team canada wouldn't take him on their team).

Let's just consider the American Born players as the Best American players of all time, that's like considering that idiot Petr Nedved as one of the best canadian players of all time (not like anyone would ever consider him best at anything).

Rabid Ranger 05-08-2005 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VanIslander
Don Cherry is also an American citizen but he's not considered as such these days.

But I guess Hull's donning of the U.S. uniform to try and beat Canada qualifies him as non-Canadian.

But if we play the immigration game, Petr Nedved is a Canadian citizen and he represented Canada very well in 1994 being a key player in bringing home a medal (a fact often missed on many).


Whatever. Brett Hull's mother is an American, so he was a dual-citizen at birth. He played college hockey at Minnesota-Duluth, has played exclusively for the U.S. in international competition, and lives in the U.S. 100% of time. That's American to me. You can claim Nedved if you want. I wouldn't, but that's me. :p:

Rabid Ranger 05-08-2005 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChillyWilly
No, Bret Hull was born in Canada, regardless of the fact that he played for Team USA (because team canada wouldn't take him on their team).

Let's just consider the American Born players as the Best American players of all time, that's like considering that idiot Petr Nedved as one of the best canadian players of all time (not like anyone would ever consider him best at anything).


Then rename the poll, best American BORN player of all-time. This is freaking ridiculous. Get over it guys!

Bergeron47 05-08-2005 10:29 PM

1. Lafontaine
2. Chelios
3. Leetch
4. Langway
5. Richter/Mullen

arrbez 05-08-2005 10:52 PM

lol, neither country wants brett hull

Stephen 05-08-2005 11:16 PM

Brian Leetch: a Stanley Cup, a Calder Trophy, a World Cup, an Olympic Silver Medal, a couple of Norris Trophies, multiple First and Second All-Star teams, a Conn Smythe Trophy winner, etc.

JCD 05-09-2005 06:13 AM

As much as I disliked the guy (mainly because he usually played for *the other* team), I would have to say Chris Chelios.

In his prime, he was without a doubt one of the top-2 defensemen in the league. Multiple Cups, multiple Norris and a spectacular 2-way career. Leetch was better offensively, Chelios made up for it defensively and by being a stand-out leader. Not that Leetch is a bad leader, he just doesn't come with Chelios clout. Example, after the Nagano disaster, Chelios acted like the perfect leader. He apoligized for the incident and pay for the damages himself, but didn't rat the guilty teammates letting them take responsibility for their own actions. I don't know how somebody could have dealt with that situation better. Lafontaine is a great player too, but he didn't have the success (in terms of awards) or longevity of Chelios.

Gotta be Chelios for me.


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