Buffalo/Toronto Trade Proposal
 

Tucker,Bell,1st for Mckee or
Tucker, Pilar,1st for Mckee or
Tucker, Doherty,2nd for Mckee
Fair?

No
No
No

You're out..!

They just signed McKee, highly doubt they'd trade him.

Sabres scoff I'm sure, but just wondering, why Tucker, Bell +1, then Tucker, Doherty +2? Shouldn't the picks be the other way round?

the first and the third ones my be *fair*. but buffalo laughs and walks away..

go after someone that's ON THE MARKET

Pretty close on the 1st one. Change Bell to Stajan or Steen and I'd do it.

Like someone above me said, it may be fair, but unrealistic. Sabres don't need Tucker, and do need McKee.

There's quite a diff. btwn Stajan and Steen. Steen has much more value.

yeah hes one of our best prospects

If I was the Sabres I'd keep McKee. He's a big part of their D.

I don't think it is fair at all. Mckee has a lot of potential and he is already a highly regarded young defender (who, I admit, is coming off an off year)


Tucker is a third-line forward, who has been inconsistent offensively over the years. His trade value is vastly overrated by some posters here, IMO.

Bell is a good to very good prospect, but who know if he will or will not pan out?

The pick is nice, but that won't get the Sabres in the playoffs next year.

I think the Sabres need Mckee to compete now.

The thing I like about Tucker however is that he is vicious. Nobody on the Sabres is like that. Tucker will stand up for anyone, and fight almost anybody. If there was room for him on the roster, I would consider bringing him in. But I still wouldn't trade McKee in any of these deals.

Its more than fair value-wise. And It certainly isnt as lobsided as you are implying.

And vastly underrated by some posters here.

Just like all prospects. You judge them based on what he's done in the past. Bell has a very good resume and has impressed in camp thusfar.

Agree. Doesn't make sense for the Sabres. Value wise, I dont see a problem.

Adam Mair? Isn't he Tucker-esque? (w/out the offense)

WTF??? Darcy Tucker??? Fight anybody? Stand up for anybody? Please, that's a joke. Tucker is a cheapshot little ******* that has people step up and wanna beat his ass, not the other way around. Here's a list of those he has fought over the past three years.

Chris Neil (OTT), Chad Kilger (MON), Adam Mair (BUF), Jeremy Roenick (PHI), Bill Lindsay (MON), Francis Boullion (MON), Luke Richardson* (PHI), Scott Hartnell (NAS), Brad Ference* (FLO), Bill Muckalt (OTT), Marcus Nilsson (FLO), Rob Ray (BUF), Bill Guerin (BOS), Mark Lawrence (NYI), Kevin Haller (NYI), Cory Sarich (TPA), Craig Adams (CAR), Sean O'Donnell (MIN)

* Instigated after a Tucker related injury to team mate.

Wow, that's a list of players that certainly have a reputation for dropping the mitts. Francis Boullion? Bill Muckalt? Marcus Nilsson? What a he man! Definitely a guy you want on your team.

:rolleyes:

lol, I remember in one of the Isels games, he would not fight any of the Isles big guns, but he freaking grabbed Bates and started a fight with him. Then he acted like he was a big tough guy, after he would not bite with the guys who would pummel his ass.

LMAO WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what a rant lanny. :lol: :lol:

LOL billy,guess you must be dying to trade him off your fhl roster then :D

I agree with you completely, Lanny. But, I think KillToronto's point is still a good one. I have never been a Tucker fan and I think he is seriously overrated on this board. But, if you want somebody to take the other team off their game, he is your man. He is like a much more talented version of Steve Webb. Not tough or intimidating in the Jason Wiemer sense (I use him as an example only because he is on my favorite team and I am familiar with his game) but still very useful.

Before you roll your eyes at me again, why don't you go ahead and whip out the list of people Tim Connolly has fought over the past 3 years? Or how about Curtis Brown's list? Dumont's? Satan's? Brier's? Hecht's? Exactly. Even if Tucker doesn't fight anyone tough, at least he'll go in the corners. Hell this guy is very cheap. I'd love to have a cheap player on this team. At least it'll make us somewhat feared, even if it is for a bad reason.

Hey pts are pts. Good return for Novseltsev I think. Doesnt change the fact that he is a cheap shot little punk f-g

I agree. Tucker is overrated by some posters here, but underrated by just as many. I think that's partially because a lot of people don't like the style he plays - how he doles out the odd cheap shot or throws a questionable hit - and partially because he's a Leaf. Perhaps that sounds ridiculous, but there have been a fair number of foolish Leaf fans frequenting these boards over the years and such people drag the public image of the Leafs down the tube. And because Leaf fans are such morons, people seem to sometimes underrate Leaf players. I know that seems like a weird argument, but I think his team has a lot to do with people's dislike and subsequent underration (I don't think that's a word, but oh well :p ) of his abilities.

That said, the proposed deal makes no sense. Leafs DO need a defenseman, but that is a hell of a lot to give up for just one player. And the Sabres need a player like McKee as well and don't need more prospects (Bell, first round pick) or third liners (Tucker). No deal.

Ive been a Sabres fan for over 20 years...gone through some tough times with some really crappy players...but mark my words Tucker coming to the Buff would be the straw that broke the camels back

I hate that whinny peice of garbage more then anyone else in the league

At least the players you just listed know they arent tough...Also i would rather have any one of them rather then Tucker...and by the way nobody fears Tucker...Everyone just laughs at how ridiculous his antics are every nite

I don't disagree. People genuinly don't like him - and thats fine, but the same people tend to severely underrate his abilities. Its okay though, they can live in their own little fantasy worlds. It didnt surprise me to hear that Tucker is one of the most sought after Leafs when GM's Call TO.