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Devils Trap 05-13-2013 02:25 PM

Bobby Ryan to NJD
 
What would it take ? Something like ??

2013 9th Overall Pick
Merrill
?
?

What else has to be added onto that to get it done

Please , I dont want any flame wars starting. Just asking.

LVDucks238 05-13-2013 02:33 PM

We really have no reason to trade him for futures. Our roster for next year is pretty much full already and our prospect pool is pretty stacked.

If we trade Bobby I've got to to think it's for a similarly valued 2C or #2 D-man.

Devils Trap 05-13-2013 02:34 PM

Sooo 2013 9th Overall + Fayne + Merrill
or
2013 9th Overall + Henrique

I think I would that, as much as I would hate to lose Henrique

Gliff 05-13-2013 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devils Trap (Post 65950649)
Sooo 2013 9th Overall + Fayne + Merrill
or
2013 9th Overall + Henrique

I think I would that, as much as I would hate to lose Henrique

That would be the ideal package in my mind. The only thing I think would be better is a top pairing defensemen.

LVDucks238 05-13-2013 02:37 PM

The 2nd one would definitely make me think long and hard about it. 1st one no way.

BTW What was the cause of Henrique's sub-par season? Injuries? Just a sophomore slump?

Kensu 05-13-2013 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LVDucks238 (Post 65950839)
The 2nd one would definitely make me think long and hard about it. 1st one no way.

BTW What was the cause of Henrique's sub-par season? Injuries? Just a sophomore slump?

was coming back from a wrist injury (forgot what was injured) then the entire Devil's offense went to a slump.

Devils Trap 05-13-2013 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LVDucks238 (Post 65950839)
The 2nd one would definitely make me think long and hard about it. 1st one no way.

BTW What was the cause of Henrique's sub-par season? Injuries? Just a sophomore slump?

Started the season with an injury, and he was very streaky. Always solid defensively, however he did struggle every now and then offensively.

Zajacs Bowl Cut 05-13-2013 02:43 PM

I can't give up 9 AND Henrique for Ryan. I just can't

and I love Ryan.

Devils Trap 05-13-2013 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zajacs Bowl Cut (Post 65951225)
I can't give up 9 AND Henrique for Ryan. I just can't

and I love Ryan.

Would be hard, but I think I do it

KaossKing 05-13-2013 02:59 PM

I really want Ryan but the combination of things we have to trade doesnt sit well with me. at some point it has to involve Henrique or Merrill and I want to see them both with us for a while. Id be comfortable with like a 1st, 2nd and Matteau (and maybe a bonus D or something) but I dont think Ducks would be into that

at the end of the day, I think we just make the draft, move a couple of peices here and there and wait 1-3 years for all the young talent to work their way into our system

Zajacs Bowl Cut 05-13-2013 03:00 PM

the Devils cannot afford to trade roster forwards away to acquire roster forwards. they just don't have the assets.

they need to trade DMen, prospects, or picks, or some combination thereof.

Gliff 05-13-2013 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zajacs Bowl Cut (Post 65952383)
the Devils cannot afford to trade roster forwards away to acquire roster forwards. they just don't have the assets.

they need to trade DMen, prospects, or picks, or some combination thereof.

You have to give to get.

EarlGrey 05-13-2013 03:06 PM

Maybe something like

Ryan + Allen/Sbisa

for

Larsson + 1st rounder 2014 + prospect/depth forward/2nd rounder 2013/2014

digdug41982 05-13-2013 03:06 PM

What about Larsson + 9th overall for Ryan + Hiller?

Zajacs Bowl Cut 05-13-2013 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gliff (Post 65952525)
You have to give to get.

nowhere did I say it wasn't a fair deal.

but trading Henrique to acquire Ryan is counterproductive.

we need to ADD Ryan TO Henrique.

Gliff 05-13-2013 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coldsteelonice84 (Post 65952799)
What about Larsson + 9th overall for Ryan + Hiller?

I'd rather have Henrique+9th.

If we are going for a defender for Ryan then it needs to be an established top pairing guy. I love Larsson but he is not what we need right now.

Zajacs Bowl Cut 05-13-2013 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coldsteelonice84 (Post 65952799)
What about Larsson + 9th overall for Ryan + Hiller?

pass.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DuckNoire (Post 65952787)
Maybe something like

Ryan + Allen/Sbisa

for

Larsson + 1st rounder 2014 + prospect/depth forward/2nd rounder 2013/2014

Devils cannot trade their 1st next year. they have to give it up

KaossKing 05-13-2013 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coldsteelonice84 (Post 65952799)
What about Larsson + 9th overall for Ryan + Hiller?

not sure Hiller is our best option tbh, and theres not way id give up #9 AND Larsson in this offseason, id seriously question Lou's practice after that

digdug41982 05-13-2013 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gliff (Post 65952971)
I'd rather have Henrique+9th.

If we are going for a defender for Ryan then it needs to be an established top pairing guy. I love Larsson but he is not what we need right now.

I'd rather have Henrique + 9th too, I just don't see them doing that.

DEVILS ALL THE WAY* 05-13-2013 03:12 PM

I have no idea why we're trying to unload our future for Bobby Ryan. I love Bobby Ryan but not at the cost of handing over Larsson/Henrique + 9th overall pick.

We have a aging roster and the last thing we need is to trade our up and coming studs for a guy who'll be hitting free agency in 2 years.

With our mediocre track record when it comes to keeping our own pending UFA's, that's a deal I'd never do unless Lou reached some type of agreement on a extention... and even with that, I wouldn't do it.

Exit Dose 05-13-2013 03:17 PM

There are some nice offers here in terms of value, but I don't see anything that makes sense for us. We need left wingers even if Bobby stays.

Gliff 05-13-2013 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zajacs Bowl Cut (Post 65952933)
nowhere did I say it wasn't a fair deal.

but trading Henrique to acquire Ryan is counterproductive.

we need to ADD Ryan TO Henrique.

Trust me I understand that. I would love to add Henrique to play with Bobby. I have come to terms that trading Bobby is the best way to get what we need.

McDonald19 05-13-2013 03:25 PM

Something around Henrique or Larsson makes sense.

Depends whether Murray will pull the trigger.

DevilChuk* 05-13-2013 03:29 PM

Not giving up Larsson for Ryan, at all really.

Henrique and a pick would be something I'd consider.

Ryan's signed for another 2 years? Hmm..

KohoDonuts88 05-13-2013 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DevilChuk (Post 65954249)
Not giving up Larsson for Ryan, at all really.

Henrique and a pick would be something I'd consider.

Ryan's signed for another 2 years? Hmm..

Ryan's ONLY signed for another 2 years. Too risky to give up that package. And I'd love to have Bobby Ryan. But to trade Henrique & 9th and risk he walks in 2 years? No way.


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