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Darlotto99 05-15-2013 09:24 AM

Sign and trade - New Jersey/Toronto
 
To New Jersey
Clark MaCarther
3rd rd pick

To Toronto
David Clarkson

Fair deal?

SpeakingOfTheDevils 05-15-2013 09:29 AM

How much do you have Clarkson signing for?

If he can be retained at a reasonable price (IMO, around $4.25M), then we'll just keep him.

veedubn1 05-15-2013 09:37 AM

I wouldn't take him on the Leafs if the rumoured 5M+ he wants is true.

Liferleafer 05-15-2013 09:45 AM

It's not that i don't like the deal, but why not just sign Clarkson as a free agent and deal Mac (if we need to) for another piece?

tml145 05-15-2013 09:47 AM

UFA for UFA?

Liferleafer 05-15-2013 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tml145 (Post 66087925)
UFA for UFA?

Ya....forgot Mac was UFA. Still, if Clarkson is a target, just sign him ourselves.

kihei 05-15-2013 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liferleafer (Post 66087839)
It's not that i don't like the deal, but why not just sign Clarkson as a free agent and deal Mac (if we need to) for another piece?

I had the same thought. Just cut out the middleman. Much better asset management.

McMatthews 05-15-2013 10:34 AM

You guys can sign Clarke MacArthur when he hits UFA status on July 5th.

Clarkson to Toronto is very likely.

We'll also keep our 3rd rounder.

AfroThunder396 05-15-2013 10:41 AM

If we can sign Clarkson to a reasonable cap hit he'll be back, no questions asked. Him and Lou are BFF's.

The only way he doesn't re-sign is if he has outrageous contract demands - in which case, you guys are free to sign him on your own accord.

McMatthews 05-15-2013 10:46 AM

Clarkson picks Toronto over New Jersey if all things ($) are equal.

Watch.

Zajacs Bowl Cut 05-15-2013 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgan Gardiner (Post 66089893)
Clarkson picks Toronto over New Jersey if all things ($) are equal.

Watch.

welp, its settled.

Warden of the North 05-15-2013 12:15 PM

Im hopeful Clarkson takes a homeotwn discount like McClement did to play for the Leafs

Come home David, come home!

Zajacs Bowl Cut 05-15-2013 12:27 PM

Devil fans' opinions of clarkson are this

for the most part, they do want him back but ONLY if he comes at a reasonable price and ONLY IF he is going to play mostly on the 3rd line.

if neither of those things are going to happen, I (and most Devils fans) want him to walk because it will not be worth it.

Devils Trap 05-15-2013 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zajacs Bowl Cut (Post 66093887)
Devil fans' opinions of clarkson are this

for the most part, they do want him back but ONLY if he comes at a reasonable price and ONLY IF he is going to play mostly on the 3rd line.

if neither of those things are going to happen, I (and most Devils fans) want him to walk because it will not be worth it.

Agreed. If he plays top 6 or gets more then 4-4.5 then he can leave

firstemperor 05-15-2013 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devils Trap (Post 66093929)
Agreed. If he plays top 6 or gets more then 4-4.5 then he can leave

I feel like he can play top 6 on the leafs. He just needs talent around him, he's not the type of talent to "make" a line, the way, say Kessel can.

If Leafs can get him for 4.5, I think that's about fair. Realistically, I'm hoping for less. We'll see if he gives the hometown discount, but I hear that he's intensely loyal to Devils management.

Classic Devil 05-15-2013 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firstemperor (Post 66094445)
I feel like he can play top 6 on the leafs. He just needs talent around him, he's not the type of talent to "make" a line, the way, say Kessel can.

If Leafs can get him for 4.5, I think that's about fair. Realistically, I'm hoping for less. We'll see if he gives the hometown discount, but I hear that he's intensely loyal to Devils management.

David Clarkson is David Clarkson. He's one of those players who it doesn't really matter who you play him with, he's always going to be basically the same player.

He's not top-six material. He's not good enough at using his linemates.

Devils Trap 05-15-2013 12:37 PM

You want him top 6 and 4.5 ???

Hes yours

Zajacs Bowl Cut 05-15-2013 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firstemperor (Post 66094445)
I feel like he can play top 6 on the leafs. He just needs talent around him, he's not the type of talent to "make" a line, the way, say Kessel can.

If Leafs can get him for 4.5, I think that's about fair. Realistically, I'm hoping for less. We'll see if he gives the hometown discount, but I hear that he's intensely loyal to Devils management.

he played with talented players this year. he played with Henrique, Elias, Zajac, etc at various points throughout the year. he is the same player wherever you play him becuase he does not use his linemates well at all.

edit- seems like CD beat me to it.

firstemperor 05-15-2013 01:06 PM

Clarkson at 4.5M wouldn't be a bargain, but if I were a betting man, I would think he'd get at least 5 on the open market.

If we can get him for 4M at a reasonable length, we'd have to take that. Even if he's not used as a top 6.

KohoDonuts88 05-15-2013 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darlotto99 (Post 66087195)
To New Jersey
Clark MaCarther
3rd rd pick

To Toronto
David Clarkson

Fair deal?

Swap early negotiating rights and Toronto sends a 3rd rounder. Done.

Teeder9 05-15-2013 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zajacs Bowl Cut (Post 66093887)
Devil fans' opinions of clarkson are this

for the most part, they do want him back but ONLY if he comes at a reasonable price and ONLY IF he is going to play mostly on the 3rd line.

if neither of those things are going to happen, I (and most Devils fans) want him to walk because it will not be worth it.

I'll give you our 2nd round pick this year and a lifetime supply of Buffalo wings if you sign him....please

KaossKing 05-15-2013 05:40 PM

Rich Chere reported about half an hour ago that talks had begun with Clarky, but no financial talks yet. its still early though, only mid-May

cyris 05-15-2013 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgan Gardiner (Post 66089453)
You guys can sign Clarke MacArthur when he hits UFA status on July 5th.

Clarkson to Toronto is very likely.


We'll also keep our 3rd rounder.

:facepalm:

No its not very likely. That is kind of an arrogant statement.

Yes it is possible and if he hits free agency we will probably be one of the teams after him but that statement was just wrong on several different levels.

KaossKing 05-15-2013 06:07 PM

some Leafs fans seem so utterly convinced that Clarky is counting the hours till he returns to Toronto. dont forget that without Pete, Clarky might not even be an NHL player right now. that could inspire alot of loyalty

Connor McJesus 05-15-2013 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darlotto99 (Post 66087195)
To New Jersey
Clark MaCarther
3rd rd pick

To Toronto
David Clarkson

Fair deal?

Bonus points for that MacArthur spelling.


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