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thalegion 05-19-2013 12:53 AM

EDM - Buff
 
Buff Receives: 7th overall, Tyler Pitlick

EDM Receives: 16th overall, Mark Pysyk

CraniumCram 05-19-2013 01:08 AM

Very intriguing, I'm a big fan of Pysyk's and would really hate to see him go but this would get me thinking.

lakai17 05-19-2013 01:12 AM

brutal for Edmonton.

cpsman 05-19-2013 01:15 AM

From what I've seen of Pysyk, I would like to have him in the Oilers system. I just don't know if its worth it for Edmonton to drop so far down in the draft, and lose Pitlick (although I'm not necessarily adverse to this).

lakai17 05-19-2013 01:19 AM

I would rather add Zadorov or Nurse over Pysyk. I wouldn't complain if Monahan dropped to #7 either.

Djp 05-19-2013 01:36 AM

Pysyk was a 1st round pick in 2011---He actually played for Edmonton in the WHL. Are you not familiar with him?

Personally I wouldnt do this deal. i dont think much of Pitlick....He doesnt amount to much other than a 3rd/4th line forward.

The way Pysyk played this year he should project as a top 4 Dman.

I dont give up Pysyk just for pick #7 from #16....Pitlick coming back doesnt balance it out.

IMO Sekera is more expendable than Pysyk.

CaptPantalones 05-19-2013 02:07 AM

getting 7 and 8 could mean getting Ristolainen and Lindholm/Monahan/Nischukin

Im down with that

Djp 05-19-2013 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptPantalones (Post 66274139)
getting 7 and 8 could mean getting Ristolainen and Lindholm/Monahan/Nischukin

Im down with that


I dont see the point in moving Pysyk for Ristolainen. To me its a wash and basically pushes the Dman back 2 years.

Blacksheep71 05-19-2013 04:53 AM

Ristolainen's experience in the SM-Liga means he could make the team immediately

thadd 05-19-2013 04:54 AM

How long has it been since I've seen an Oiler proposal which makes sense?

ZeroPT 05-19-2013 05:49 AM

hmmm, as mentioned above we really like Pysyk over in Buffalo, not sure I would do this though, Buffalo is trading 2 mid-first round picks for a top 10 pick and a meh prospect.

Oiltankjob Fail 05-19-2013 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thadd (Post 66275443)
How long has it been since I've seen an Oiler proposal which makes sense?

long time

tsujimoto74 05-19-2013 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blacksheep71 (Post 66275433)
Ristolainen's experience in the SM-Liga means he could make the team immediately

Not really. How many d-men make the NHL at 18? He'd likely be a year or 2 wait. By the time he's NHL ready, Pysyk will already be eating top 4 minutes.
As has been said, I'd hate giving Pysyk up. What he's shown so far is that he doesn't just project as a top 4 d-man, but a tough-minutes one. Buffalo sure as hell needs one or two of those. Not sure what we really gain by trading a kid who's developing beautifully into that role.

tmack224 05-19-2013 08:04 AM

As much as oiler fans don't like it Sabres fans won't like it either. Pysyk showed he's at least a top 4 guy and possibly a top 2 guy that can play against other teams top guys and log tons of minutes. If Pysyk is traded its in a deal to get to a top 3 pick. No reason to move him otherwise.

couture23 05-19-2013 09:50 AM

No thanks. Pysyk's development has been tremendous and very worthy of 23rd overall.

I know you guys would like to see him back in Edmonton, but he projects well in our lineup more than an undrafted prospect.

stokes84 05-19-2013 10:18 AM

I'm not interested in moving Pysyk at all. He's the type of steady presence the Sabres need moving forward. He'll be in the top 4 next season.

krt88 05-19-2013 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thalegion (Post 66272801)
Buff Receives: 7th overall, Tyler Pitlick

EDM Receives: 16th overall, Mark Pysyk

No way I would do this! Pysyk has too much promise at this point

thalegion 05-19-2013 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thadd (Post 66275443)
How long has it been since I've seen an Oiler proposal which makes sense?

Dunno if you're disagreeing with mine or not

ReimerIsFuture 05-19-2013 11:44 AM

Not good for the Oilers. Buffalo would have to give more.

Maybe something involving Tyler Myers.

Zip15 05-19-2013 11:51 AM

The Sabres wouldn't do this in advance of the draft. If Barkov-Lindholm-Monahan went 4-6, it'd be a disaster for Buffalo. Pysyk is NHL-ready now, and he'll make the team out of training camp. If they gave up on Pysyk just so they could draft one more of Nurse/Ristolainen/Nichushkin, I'd be pissed.

I'm not all that high on Pitlick, either.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blacksheep71 (Post 66275433)
Ristolainen's experience in the SM-Liga means he could make the team immediately

Just like Armia's experience in SM-Liiga during his draft year meant he'd make the Sabres immediately? They shouldn't rush Ristolainen if they draft him. They already pissed away a year of Grigorenko's ELC. (And you can even make an argument they did the same with Girgensons, given they spent a year of his ELC and there's no guarantee he developed more than he would have in another location, but that's conversation for a different thread.)

I don't want to waste a year of Ristolainen, too. Let him play in Finland for at least another season, and re-evaluate before 2014-15.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReimerIsFuture (Post 66280395)
Not good for the Oilers. Buffalo would have to give more.

Maybe something involving Tyler Myers.

Please. :rolleyes:

Chainshot 05-19-2013 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zip15 (Post 66280623)
The Sabres wouldn't do this in advance of the draft. If Barkov-Lindholm-Monahan went 4-6, it'd be a disaster for Buffalo. Pysyk is NHL-ready now, and he'll make the team out of training camp. If they gave up on Pysyk just so they could draft one more of Nurse/Ristolainen/Nichushkin, I'd be pissed.

I'm not all that high on Pitlick, either.



Just like Armia's experience in SM-Liiga during his draft year meant he'd make the Sabres immediately? They shouldn't rush Ristolainen if they draft him. They already pissed away a year of Grigorenko's ELC. (And you can even make an argument they did the same with Girgensons, given they spent a year of his ELC and there's no guarantee he developed more than he would have in another location, but that's conversation for a different thread.)

I don't want to waste a year of Ristolainen, too. Let him play in Finland for at least another season, and re-evaluate before 2014-15.



Please. :rolleyes:


Girgensons deal slides this year and may slide next year too if he doesn't play 9-NHL games.

Other than that, agree 100%. Nicely said.

lakai17 05-19-2013 02:06 PM

No thanks, we have all the good Oil Kings defenceman in Gernat and Musil.

rockinghockey 05-19-2013 03:04 PM

Pysky and 16 is not enough to move up to 7th.

cpsman 05-19-2013 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lakai17 (Post 66285583)
No thanks, we have all the good Oil Kings defenceman in Gernat and Musil.


but we lost out on reinhart :cry:

Maxxed Out 05-19-2013 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thalegion (Post 66272801)
Buff Receives: 7th overall, Tyler Pitlick

EDM Receives: 16th overall, Mark Pysyk

To me 7th overall is too high price for pysyk, and on top of that adding Tyler pitlick, horrendous :shakehead


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