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Bryanbryoil 05-19-2013 01:52 AM

Zadorov Vs. Nurse
 
Having not seen these guys other than youtube clips, I was wondering for those who have seen him a number of times how you'd rank them?

More physical

Better defensively

Better passer

Better shot

Thinks the game quicker

Better skater

Higher upside

1972 05-19-2013 08:03 AM

More physical Zadarov

Better defensively Zadarov

Better passer Nurse

Better shot Zadarov

Thinks the game quicker Nurse, none are elite

Better skater take your pick

Higher upside take your pick

Money Baer 05-19-2013 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryanbryoil (Post 66273955)
Having not seen these guys other than youtube clips, I was wondering for those who have seen him a number of times how you'd rank them?

More physical

Better defensively

Better passer

Better shot

Thinks the game quicker

Better skater

Higher upside

Physical - Nurse

Defensively - Zadorov

Passer - Nurse

Shot - Really depends what you're looking for... Accuracy? Power? Slap? Wrist? etc...

Hockey IQ - Zadorov (I also don't think either is great at this, but not a liability).

Better Skater - Nurse

Higher upside - Nurse (I actually think Zadorov will end up being the better pick, but if Nurse can reach his ceiling, hands down he will be better. His hockey IQ might hold him back IMO.)

tony d 05-19-2013 10:14 AM

More physical- Zadarov

Better defensively- Zadarov

Better passer- Nurse

Better shot-Nurse

Thinks the game quicker- Nurse

Better skater- Nurse

Higher upside-Nurse

Fearless Leaf* 05-19-2013 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wally31 (Post 66276719)
Physical - Nurse

Defensively - Zadorov

Passer - Nurse

Shot - Really depends what you're looking for... Accuracy? Power? Slap? Wrist? etc...

Hockey IQ - Zadorov (I also don't think either is great at this, but not a liability).

Better Skater - Nurse

Higher upside - Nurse (I actually think Zadorov will end up being the better pick, but if Nurse can reach his ceiling, hands down he will be better. His hockey IQ might hold him back IMO.)

This is a pretty solid assessment, IMO.

DKQ 05-19-2013 01:00 PM

More physical- Nurse, Zadorov often throws huge hits but other than that uses his stick more than the body

Better defensively- Zadorov

Better passer- Nurse

Better shot- Zadorov has a very hard but often inaccurate slapshot. Never uses a wrister. Nurse has more of a variety

Thinks the game quicker- Neither are particularly high hockey IQ prospects, Zadorov is slightly higher

Better skater- Nurse, though both can skate well

Higher upside- Hard to say, Zadorov has very little offensive game but is great defensively, Nurse has great tools but low hockey IQ. Depends on who addresses their flaws better, I'm gonna say Zadorov's are easier to address

Bryanbryoil 05-19-2013 01:50 PM

Thanks guys, in terms of their shots accuracy, shot selection, ability to get it away quickly, and sheer velocity would be good to know. Also who has more puck poise in the offensive zone/who rushes the play a bit when pressured?

Great stuff so far guys, it sounds like the responses that I've gotten are from people that have seen both a number of times and not just guys reading scouting reports.

17Kurri 05-19-2013 02:57 PM

More physical - Nurse

Better defensively - Nurse

Better passer - Zadorov

Better shot - Zadorov

Thinks the game quicker - Zadorov

Better skater - Nurse

Higher upside - Nurse

stayinalive 05-19-2013 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 17Kurri (Post 66289213)
More physical - Nurse

Better defensively - Nurse

Better passer - Zadorov

Better shot - Zadorov

Thinks the game quicker - Zadorov

Better skater - Nurse

Higher upside - Nurse

can you explan this?

DJB 05-19-2013 08:38 PM

Nurse and isn't even close for me.

Circulartheory 05-20-2013 10:07 AM

I'll be interested to see who goes first on draft day. Nurse has huge upside but needs to work on filling out his frame while Zadorov has lower upside but is better built and with an NHL-ready body.

That 05-20-2013 02:31 PM

More physical - Draw - I guess it depends on what you're looking for. Zadorov is the better body checker, but Nurse is overall the meaner player.

Better defensively - Zadorov - Nurse is good, although, I do feel he gets a bit exposed due the system SSM plays. Zadorov is very good has improved throughout the year.

Better passer - Nurse - Of all the things here, this was easiest. Nurse makes a fantastic breakout pass with consistency, he also is a very good passer in the offensive zone. Zadorov is a fairly good passer, but it could use work.

Better shot - Nurse - Nurse has a better wrister and has a more accurate slapshot. Zadorov's slapper is more powerful, but has struggles with accuracy.

Thinks the game quicker - Zadorov - Neither have fantastic IQ. I find that Nurse improved his decision making more this year than Zadorov did, but Zadorov still makes less mistakes.

Better skater - Nurse - This one is very close. Zadorov is a smoother skater, but Nurse is faster and is more effective overall.

Higher upside - Nurse - I see Nurse as a boom/bust prospect who has the upside to be a #1 defenceman, while I see Zadorov as a lower upside, but much safer prospect.

McTankel 05-20-2013 02:56 PM

I would choose Risto over both of them IMO.

17Kurri 05-20-2013 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stayinalive (Post 66303477)
can you explan this?

In the games I saw of them, it seemed to me that both were pretty good with short and medium range passing, but Zadorov connected more consistently with his long range outlet passes. Of course, with long range passing, at least a little bit has to do with receiving the pass. Perhaps, with guys like Domi, Horvat, and Griffith receiving his outlet passes, Zadorov had an advantage to work with, but he still had to deliver those passes.

lakai17 05-21-2013 12:10 AM

It's always harder playing against a 6'6 defenceman when the skating is even.

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