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Chainsaw 05-16-2005 10:46 PM

Pitkanen VS Carter
 
If you had to choose one who would it be?

The Joker* 05-17-2005 12:03 AM

Carter.

I'd take Richards before I took Pitkanen, I'll day a big Canadian boy over a foreigner anyday.

GoneFullHextall 05-17-2005 12:25 AM

Carter, Mike Richards as well

RoDu 05-17-2005 12:38 AM

I'm glad we have both because it would be a hell of a decision

FlyersGuy69 05-17-2005 01:07 AM

since I think that it is harder to find a future franchise defencemen, my selection would be...

1) Pitkanen
2) Carter
3) Richards

Skylab 05-17-2005 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oil3rs
Carter.

I'd take Richards before I took Pitkanen, I'll day a big Canadian boy over a foreigner anyday.

That's a very enlightened view :shakehead

GoneFullHextall 05-17-2005 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyersGuy69
since I think that it is harder to find a future franchise defencemen, my selection would be...

1) Pitkanen
2) Carter
3) Richards

It might be a bit early to call Pitkanen a franchise defenseman.

knittingonskates 05-17-2005 08:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClarkeMustGoDotCom
It might be a bit early to call Pitkanen a franchise defenseman.

He'll hopefully develop into one though... if he doesn't get distracted by the shiny things...

I agree with the others thuogh.. tough choice...

Spacey, the freight train or blondie..


All depends on what you want..

FearTheFlyers 05-17-2005 10:07 AM

Pitkanen
Richards
Carter



Really tough though.

John Flyers Fan 05-17-2005 10:21 AM

Pitkanen would no doubt be number one, because we have no other legit options for a future #1 defenseman. A true #1 defenseman is also the toughest position to find. Center is the position we have the most depth.

GoneFullHextall 05-17-2005 12:18 PM

well its still nice NOT to have to decide, to have all 3 players in our system.

MojoJojo 05-17-2005 12:25 PM

I would take Pitkanen if only because really good defensemen are that much harder to come by. Defense is what wins games even if what they do is not noticed when they do it well. Their overall ability as players is pretty equal in my eyes though; both are good at both ends, have similar size, make good decisions with the puck, Pitkanen has somewhat better skating, Carter has better hands.

bennysflyers16 05-17-2005 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Flyers Fan
Pitkanen would no doubt be number one, because we have no other legit options for a future #1 defenseman. A true #1 defenseman is also the toughest position to find. Center is the position we have the most depth.


Bang on !

easton122 05-17-2005 03:16 PM

1. Pitkanen

Really not that hard of a choice either. He's huge, fast, physical, and has great offensive and defensive instincts.

2. Carter/Richards

So tough to choose but Carter has impressed me so much in the playoffs I have to give him the edge.

RorschachWJK 05-17-2005 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oil3rs
Carter.

I'd take Richards before I took Pitkanen, I'll day a big Canadian boy over a foreigner anyday.

Welcome to my ignore list, Einstein.

Pitkanen, for the reasons Mojojojo already gave.
Richards
Carter

stanley 05-17-2005 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oil3rs
I'd take Richards before I took Pitkanen, I'll day a big Canadian boy over a foreigner anyday.

What time's the Klan meeting tonight?

stanley 05-17-2005 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GagneOwnsYou
Pitkanen
Richards
Carter

Really tough though.

I'm going with FG69's (switch Richards & Carter), but GOY's last statement is why I replied to this post.

Nice problem to have, isn't it?

Flyerbum 05-17-2005 09:51 PM

Welcome to my ignore list, Einstein.

Pitkanen, for the reasons Mojojojo already gave.
Richards
Carter


Classic, classic backtalking.
Pitkanen has made the strides franchise defenseman are
expected to make this season.
But Richards over Carter?
Could we say that's like taking Ricci over Primeau?

Roger's Pancreas* 05-17-2005 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyerbum
Pitkanen has made the strides franchise defenseman are
expected to make this season.
But Richards over Carter?
Could we say that's like taking Ricci over Primeau?

No we couldn't. Richards and Carter ooze offensive potential where Primeau and Ricci were better off defensively. I'd take Richards ahead of Carter for the sole reason that when he's on the penalty kill it's almost like the opposing team goes on the defence because he's so good short handed. As a side note he's a spark plug player that jumps everyone on your bench and will always wear the "C" no matter who he plays for. Pitkanen-Richards-Carter in order of selection.

Flyerbum 05-17-2005 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panasonic Youth
No we couldn't. Richards and Carter ooze offensive potential where Primeau and Ricci were better off defensively. I'd take Richards ahead of Carter for the sole reason that when he's on the penalty kill it's almost like the opposing team goes on the defence because he's so good short handed. As a side note he's a spark plug player that jumps everyone on your bench and will always wear the "C" no matter who he plays for. Pitkanen-Richards-Carter in order of selection.

Yeah, well, you just described the career of Mike Ricci. Primeau and Ricci
don't ooze offensive potential? I guess.....It's always fun debating a moot
point though. I love both players (Richards and Carter) but can I throw
this out: Richards is a stereotype (spark plug kind of player); Carter is a
prototype (drives the net kind of player) I know we're giddy about Richards
performing well in the AHL playoffs but....

Chainsaw 05-17-2005 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyerbum
Yeah, well, you just described the career of Mike Ricci. Primeau and Ricci
don't ooze offensive potential? I guess.....It's always fun debating a moot
point though. I love both players (Richards and Carter) but can I throw
this out: Richards is a stereotype (spark plug kind of player); Carter is a
prototype (drives the net kind of player) I know we're giddy about Richards
performing well in the AHL playoffs but....

Optimism only please.

Rails 05-18-2005 12:28 PM

Carter > Richards > Pitkanen

Our top centers are older than our top defencemen. The top centers (Roenick and Primeau) are going to retire sooner than the top defencemen (Markov and Johnsson)

budscweizer16 05-18-2005 01:04 PM

Quote:

Carter > Richards > Pitkanen

Our top centers are older than our top defencemen. The top centers (Roenick and Primeau) are going to retire sooner than the top defencemen (Markov and Johnsson)
very good point Harper, i'd go

1. Pitkanen
2. Carter
3. Richards
b/c it is harder to find a number 1 defensemen then center plus we already have several good centers young and old.


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