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Megustaelhockey 05-25-2013 08:07 PM

Post-season NYR report card
 
What grade (A-D, F, or Incomplete) would you give to everyone on the team: players, coaches, GM?

45 Arron Asham
43 Martin Biron
16 Derick Brassard
22 Brian Boyle
24 Ryan Callahan (C)
29 Ryane Clowe
4 Michael Del Zotto
15 Derek Dorsett
44 Steve Eminger
97 Matt Gilroy
5 Dan Girardi
62 Carl Hagelin
32 Micheal Haley
40 Roman Hamrlik
20 Chris Kreider
30 Henrik Lundqvist
27 Ryan McDonagh
17 John Moore
61 Rick Nash
28 Kris Newbury
8 Darroll Powe
14 Taylor Pyatt
19 Brad Richards (A)
18 Marc Staal (A)
21 Derek Stepan
6 Anton Stralman
36 Mats Zuccarello

John Tortorella
Mike Sullivan
Benoit Allaire
Glen Sather

Krampus 05-25-2013 08:10 PM

Arron Asham: Still don't understand why he was scratched. Played some great game. Would have like a little more fighting. B-
Martin Biron: NHL Backup. Not much else to it. 5 hole problems, but still very solid. Plus a great team guy B
Derick Brassard: We <3 Brass God A
Brian Boyle: Overplayed. Offense we all know. Still extremely overrated on defense. Screens our goalie way too much. D
Ryan Callahan: Had his ups and downs this year. He's still Ryan Callahan. C
Ryane Clowe: Played very well for, and was intimidating, which we lacked. Keep him. B-
Michael Del Zotto: Worst season of his career play-wise, and his most confient season don't make a good match D-
Derek Dorsett: Only eleven games, but he showed some great skill, and did his job as a pest. Took Rat face out of the game too. Refs seem to have it out for him though... C+
Steve Eminger: Not an NHL defender, but a solid #7. Keep him around, but when he has to play, no more than 10 minutes C-
Matt Gilroy: Looked better than Del Zotto when he played. No offense, but surprisingly solid in his own end. I'll take it C+
Dan Girardi: He's always been carried by his partner. This season exposed him. Played some good games in the playoffs, but singlehandedly cost us some. Move him if the price is right D+
Carl Hagelin: Didn't really improve from last year, and seems to not be more than a 40-50 point guy. Still a solid performance C+
Micheal Haley: Not afraid to get dirty, but Dorsett does the same thing, and is better at it. AHL guy, but fine for an emergency call up C
Roman Hamrlik: His career was over before we picked him. Just remember that guys. Find it hard to grade him...
Chris Kreider: Pure ****. Then purely amazing. Hopefully he can do well outside of the playoffs next year F/A
Henrik Lundqvist : He was no where near as good as last year. Rebound control. Seeing through screens. Puck handling. He could be one of the all time greats, but has to work for it C
Ryan McDonagh: Was looking as good as last year, but not better for most of the season. He was a god in the playoffs though. Hopefully a sign of things to come B
John Moore: He's a great offensive defenseman. Clown uses him as a defensive defenseman. That's how we ruin prospects B
Rick Nash: Great season. Still needs to learn to pass earlier sometimes. Took a while in the playoffs, but looked great in the end. B
Kris Newbury: Career AHLer. Leave him there to rot or let him walk to Europe D
Darroll Powe: Great defensively, but why do guys lose all talent when they come here? Still better than Rupp C
Taylor Pyatt: You guys give him way too much ****. He scored at the pace we expected him to, and should be used as a screen on the powerplay. Marshmallow though... C
Brad Richards: An enigma to say the least. He actually played well going into the playoffs, but fell apart again. I'll reserve judgment, but give him another shot next year
Marc Staal: Our best defender, by far. **** off if you wanna trade him A
Derek Stepan: The only A+. What a ****ing season. Glad we traded Anisimov and not him A+
Anton Stralman: Generally solid, but makes some ugly mistakes. Has a shot too, so he obviously can't be on the powerplay B-
Mats Zuccarello: Thought he was done. The crow tastes great B+

John Tortorella: **** you F-
Mike Sullivan: **** you F-
Benoit Allaire: This is the goalie coach? If so, he's not really doing a good job of helping our goalie fix his problems F-
Glen Sather: He didn't even do anything this year anymore. I'll give Gorton a B though

ColonialsHockey10 05-25-2013 08:11 PM

I'll do a write up later.

I think we made it very very long for how this team was this year.

Disappointing season and I think we took a step back as an organization unfortunately.

Miserable year.

ChrisKreider20 05-25-2013 08:14 PM

Torts - F
Brassard - A+
Lundqvist - A+
Sullivan - F
Nash - B-, would have been A- if it wasn't for the payoffs.
Sather - B-' I have no qualms with him lately. He's built a team for Torts.

Baby Punisher 05-25-2013 08:16 PM

A lot of changes need to be made to this team. It starts with the buy out of Richards, the firing of Torts & Sather & than gutting this roster say for 7-8 current players.

BlueshirtBlitz 05-25-2013 08:16 PM

Great year for Hank with regression everywhere else. With the demise of Brad Richards, we're not a cup contender. Stepan is great but he's not good enough to bring us to the finals by himself.

Interested to see what is done.

Dactyl 05-25-2013 08:16 PM

C- 45 Arron Asham
B+ 43 Martin Biron
A+ 16 Derick Brassard
C 22 Brian Boyle
C- 24 Ryan Callahan (C)
B 29 Ryane Clowe
D+ 4 Michael Del Zotto
D 15 Derek Dorsett
D 44 Steve Eminger
F- 97 Matt Gilroy
D 5 Dan Girardi
B 62 Carl Hagelin
C 32 Micheal Haley
F- 40 Roman Hamrlik
D 20 Chris Kreider
A+ 30 Henrik Lundqvist
A 27 Ryan McDonagh
A- 17 John Moore
B+ 61 Rick Nash
D 28 Kris Newbury
D- 8 Darroll Powe
D 14 Taylor Pyatt
F- 19 Brad Richards (A)
A+ 18 Marc Staal (A)
A+ 21 Derek Stepan
B+ 6 Anton Stralman
B+ 36 Mats Zuccarello

F- John Tortorella
F- Mike Sullivan
A Benoit Allaire
C+ Glen Sather

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shinchanyo 05-25-2013 08:17 PM

Gabs and Richards can follow their careers off the proverbial cliff. They are the main reason why this season was such a failure. . hat's what the emotional part of me wants to say. The realistic part says they got old and our luck was horrendous. There is no excusing this PP nightmare though anymore. It gets fixed or someone's head should roll. Our PP was an international embarrassment to the hockey world in these PO.

We continue to show a lot of balls fighting back and whatnot against Washington but with all the advantages this team should have this continues to be the best we do year in and year out (One anomaly) and Sather doesn't get canned its just disgusting.

bigbuffalo313 05-25-2013 08:17 PM

Lundqvist=Ralphie
everyone else=the rest


DobHoc 05-25-2013 08:17 PM

Richards -F
Tortorella -F

Only grades i will hand out....i HOPE they are gone by the start of the next season!

Flavius 05-25-2013 08:18 PM

I'm giving myself an F for believing in this **** team for another year.

Silence Of The Plams 05-25-2013 08:18 PM

Over all team is a C.

SKS 05-25-2013 08:19 PM

45 Arron Asham---- B
43 Martin Biron---- C
16 Derick Brassard---- A
22 Brian Boyle---- B+
24 Ryan Callahan (C)---- C
29 Ryane Clowe--- I or B
4 Michael Del Zotto--- D-
15 Derek Dorsett--- C-
44 Steve Eminger--- C+
97 Matt Gilroy--- B
5 Dan Girardi---- B
62 Carl Hagelin--- B-
40 Roman Hamrlik--- B
20 Chris Kreider---- C-
30 Henrik Lundqvist--- A+
27 Ryan McDonagh--- A
17 John Moore--- I
61 Rick Nash---- C+
28 Kris Newbury--- C-
8 Darroll Powe---- I
14 Taylor Pyatt---- C+
19 Brad Richards (A)--- F
18 Marc Staal (A) --- I
21 Derek Stepan---- A-
6 Anton Stralman---- B
36 Mats Zuccarello---- A

John Turtler D
Mike Sullivan D
Benoit Allaire Guess he must have done a good job.. A?
Glen Sather - B

SA16 05-25-2013 08:19 PM

45 Arron Asham - C
43 Martin Biron - C
16 Derick Brassard - A+
22 Brian Boyle - D
24 Ryan Callahan (C) - C
29 Ryane Clowe - B
4 Michael Del Zotto - C
15 Derek Dorsett - C
44 Steve Eminger - C
97 Matt Gilroy - F
5 Dan Girardi - C
62 Carl Hagelin - B
32 Micheal Haley - Too few games
40 Roman Hamrlik - F
20 Chris Kreider - C
30 Henrik Lundqvist - A
27 Ryan McDonagh - A
17 John Moore - B+
61 Rick Nash - B+
28 Kris Newbury - F
8 Darroll Powe - D
14 Taylor Pyatt - C
19 Brad Richards (A) - F
18 Marc Staal (A) - B
21 Derek Stepan - A+
6 Anton Stralman - B+
36 Mats Zuccarello - B

John Tortorella - F
Mike Sullivan - F
Benoit Allaire - Unknown
Glen Sather - B

Dactyl 05-25-2013 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guess What (Post 66596531)
Over all team is a C.

someone feels generous

ColonialsHockey10 05-25-2013 08:20 PM

I also think people who blame this on Sather's have not watched this team at all this year.

Get a clue please.

DobHoc 05-25-2013 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blooblood (Post 66596637)
someone feels generous

No kidding!

theJUMPER 05-25-2013 08:20 PM

Only players that showed up in the playoffs:

Boyle A-
Henrik A
Zuke B+
Mcd A
Girardi A
Brassard A
Stepan B+
Hags B

Everyone else is a C

Fs for Nash & Richards

Panfork 05-25-2013 08:21 PM

45 Arron Asham B
43 Martin Biron B-
16 Derick Brassard A
22 Brian Boyle B+
24 Ryan Callahan (C) C
29 Ryane Clowe C+
4 Michael Del Zotto D+
15 Derek Dorsett C (?)
44 Steve Eminger B
97 Matt Gilroy C (?)
5 Dan Girardi B-
62 Carl Hagelin B
32 Micheal Haley
40 Roman Hamrlik
20 Chris Kreider D
30 Henrik Lundqvist A+++++++++
27 Ryan McDonagh A
17 John Moore A-
61 Rick Nash B
28 Kris Newbury
8 Darroll Powe B-
14 Taylor Pyatt C+
19 Brad Richards (A) D
18 Marc Staal (A) A
21 Derek Stepan A+
6 Anton Stralman A-
36 Mats Zuccarello A-

John Tortorella D+
Mike Sullivan F--------
Glen Sather B+

NJRangers35 05-25-2013 08:21 PM

Please, please, please do not be here next year Asham, Gilroy, Newbury, Pyatt, Richards, Hamrlik, Torts, and Sullivan. I also do not care if Powe, MZA, Boyle, Clowe, and MDZ are back either.

Stepan, Brassard, McDonagh, Stralman, and Hank thank you for a great season. You all get an A.

BlueshirtBlitz 05-25-2013 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ColonialsHockey10 (Post 66596661)
I also think people who blame this on Sather's have not watched this team at all this year.

Brad Richards was Slats' get out of jail free card and it turns out he's fried quicker than we all thought he would be.

We have some very good pieces. As a whole team, though, I can't see how we're a cup contender. That's not John Tortorella's fault.

ColonialsHockey10 05-25-2013 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueshirtBlitz (Post 66596803)
Brad Richards was Slats' get out of jail free card and it turns out he's fried quicker than we all thought he would be.

We have some very good pieces. As a whole team, though, I can't see how we're a cup contender. That's not John Tortorella's fault.

Brad Richards decline is completely on him. Sather's signed him to a good deal as well.

Clowe, stralman, staal and powe out, and MDZ, Lundqvist, Nash and Richards not playing up to par is the reason they didn't continue on.

Glen Sather has not done a bad job.

Dactyl 05-25-2013 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theJUMPER (Post 66596685)
Only players that showed up in the playoffs:

Boyle A-
Henrik A
Zuke B+
Mcd A
Girardi A
Brassard A
Stepan B+
Hags B

Everyone else is a C

Fs for Nash & Richards

:huh:

NJRangers35 05-25-2013 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueshirtBlitz (Post 66596803)
Brad Richards was Slats' get out of jail free card and it turns out he's fried quicker than we all thought he would be.

We have some very good pieces. As a whole team, though, I can't see how we're a cup contender. That's not John Tortorella's fault.

I think this is an overreaction. There is a solid core here to be a cup contender. Players like Lundqvist, Callahan, Stepan, Nash, McDonagh and Staal are good enough to build around. There are also very good secondary pieces like Stralman, Hagelin, and Brassard. I refuse to believe that this team cannot win a cup. You go and get a coach with a different style who doesn't only preaches grind and jam and you add a big shot from the blue line like a Yandle type player and you have just as good of a chance as anyone.

ColonialsHockey10 05-25-2013 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blooblood (Post 66597107)
:huh:

That's the problem with doing this after the season is completely done.

People here are not capable of evaluating the team critically over an entire game, let alone the players after the regular season AND a playoff run.


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