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Chris Cutter 05-29-2013 11:35 PM

Ryder isn't coming back (according to his agent)
 
https://twitter.com/JFChaumont/statu...62606028722176

#Habs: Michael Ryder ne reviendra pas à Montréal. Son agent le confirme au Journal de Montréal. http://*******/ZfKZdY

I know that will make some people happy on here.

Discuss.

The Russian General 05-29-2013 11:38 PM

Good riddance.

holyhabs 05-29-2013 11:38 PM

well it was pretty obvious after the way things ended. we needed to dump that cole salary for other players. giving it to ryder didnt make much sense.

simplysincere* 05-29-2013 11:43 PM

Good for both sides.

Ryder won't do well here, and Montreal won't do well with him.

Whitesnake 05-29-2013 11:46 PM

Fine with me. But it went from "sign him 2-3 years" to "good riddance" in a about....2-3 weeks. Things change quite fast.....But we need another type of ingredient in this team.

WhiskeySeven 05-29-2013 11:47 PM

With Gio out indefinitely and Ryder not returning, we absolutely need to get a couple of established NHL wingers.

What are the options?

Ezpz 05-29-2013 11:48 PM

Hope we can get a 5th rounder for his rights.

Hugo Sham 05-29-2013 11:51 PM

http://tvasports.ca/hockey/canadiens...offre-30052013

Pax Macioretty 05-29-2013 11:53 PM

Good. More space for rookies and big wingers.

Dekar 05-29-2013 11:56 PM

I'm not going to admit it's a good thing until we prove that the replacement is any better.

ArtPeur 05-30-2013 12:09 AM

I would have kept him if they could trade Gionta. Well, now, good luck Bergevin to find another right winger..

DJ Breadman 05-30-2013 12:14 AM

Well there goes some goals we need to replace

habs03 05-30-2013 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArtPeur (Post 66781701)
I would have kept him if they could trade Gionta. Well, now, good luck Bergevin to find another right winger..

Not exactly

If you remember at one point we had Ryder playing out of position, playing LW because we had Gionta and Gallagher as the other top 2 RW's

Bergevin can get either a LW or RW, we have a few guys that can play either LW or RW in Prust, Moen, and Bourque.

Ideal you would like to have a rightly playing RW and vice versa but doesn't always have to be the case.

habs03 05-30-2013 12:19 AM

I knew he was a goner the second the trade was made with Dallas. Ryder is 33 years old, and is going to want a big contract, he is coming off two great years(stat wise), last chance to get a 4-5 year deal at big bucks.

And I think he'll get it from someone.

ProspectsFanatic 05-30-2013 12:21 AM

I'm ok with this. But Bergevin need to well spent the cap space he got to consider the Cole/Ryder trade a good transaction. We definitely have a hole on our top 4 wings now. Will be interesting to see.

ArtPeur 05-30-2013 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by habs03 (Post 66781995)
Not exactly

If you remember at one point we had Ryder playing out of position, playing LW because we had Gionta and Gallagher as the other top 2 RW's

Bergevin can get either a LW or RW, we have a few guys that can play either LW or RW in Prust, Moen, and Bourque.

Ideal you would like to have a rightly playing RW and vice versa but doesn't always have to be the case.

I know though Gionta will be out for a while and might be slower next year. We will be missing a top-6 scoring winger.. well, I bet they wouldn't want to sign him for more than 1 year.

jwolf 05-30-2013 12:38 AM

Ryder sure can snipe, but he doesn't bring much more to the table. On a more complete team, ready to contend, he and his salary/term demands will be easier to digest. Besides: he's only 6' tall. Pff!

And so we move on...

habs03 05-30-2013 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArtPeur (Post 66782285)
I know though Gionta will be out for a while and might be slower next year. We will be missing a top-6 scoring winger.. well, I bet they wouldn't want to sign him for more than 1 year.

Gionta should be ready for camp I think, last that's what I remember David Stubbs saying(HIO), but you are right we do need another winger, Gionta is most likely going to be a 3rd line guy with pp time next year, while last with Mtl I would guess. So looking forward to seing what Bergevin does with the money he cleared up by trading Cole.

Roulin 05-30-2013 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiskeySeven (Post 66780875)
With Gio out indefinitely and Ryder not returning, we absolutely need to get a couple of established NHL wingers.

What are the options?

Some UFAs:

Bickell
Stalberg
Cleary
Jagr
Filpulla
Horton
Clowe
Clarkson
Latendresse
Torres
Ponikarovsky
Penner

... and there may be some more short term options available after buyouts. It looks to me like a buyer's market for wingers.

Guilliam 05-30-2013 01:34 AM

Pacioretty-Plekanec-Gionta
Galchenyuk-Eller-Gallagher
Bourque-DD-Prust
Moen-White-Dumont

This doesn't change much. We were all hoping for at least one top 9 winger this summer, ideally to push Prust back on the fourth line. We'll be fine without Ryder.

Besides, even if we miss him this year. Ryder wouldn't have signed for 1 year. So the way I see it, I'd rather miss him this year than having to suffer him at 4-5M for 3 or 4 more years afterwards...

chaosrevolver 05-30-2013 05:46 AM

Max Pacioretty - Tomas Plekanec - Brian Gionta
Alex Galchenyuk - Lars Eller - Brendan Gallagher
Rene Bourque - David Desharnais - David Clarkson
Raffi Torres - Gabriel Dumont - Brandon Prust

I wouldn't mind Clarkson and Torres. I also prefer Dumont to White and Moen.

Whitesnake 05-30-2013 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dekar (Post 66781225)
I'm not going to admit it's a good thing until we prove that the replacement is any better.

That's the best reaction of the news so far. I agree.

NJHABSFAN 05-30-2013 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Cutter (Post 66780329)
https://twitter.com/JFChaumont/statu...62606028722176

#Habs: Michael Ryder ne reviendra pas à Montréal. Son agent le confirme au Journal de Montréal. http://*******/ZfKZdY

I know that will make some people happy on here.

Discuss.

buh-bye

NJHABSFAN 05-30-2013 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaosrevolver (Post 66786527)
Max Pacioretty - Tomas Plekanec - Brian Gionta
Alex Galchenyuk - Lars Eller - Brendan Gallagher
Rene Bourque - David Desharnais - David Clarkson
Raffi Torres - Gabriel Dumont - Brandon Prust

I wouldn't mind Clarkson and Torres. I also prefer Dumont to White and Moen.


would rather spend the money on Bickle from chicago

Crimson Skorpion 05-30-2013 06:14 AM

He did everything that was expected of him during the season, lost a step and faltered in the playoffs. For his worth, he earned his pay and played well with the Habs. In return, Bergevin frees up some more cap space and in the process, has another draft pick in the top 90 to let Timmins work with.

Best of luck to Ryder. Based on his season performance, he'll earn $3-4 million per season, on likely a 2-3 year contract.


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