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Baarle* 06-07-2013 10:39 AM

2013 HFTML Fantasy Draft Discussion Thread
 
Alright guys, time to get this up and running. The following is a list of teams:
Teams & GM's!
Anaheim Ducks - Baarle
Atlanta Thrashers – Jtabo
Boston Bruins - PenFifteen
Calgary Flames – Griffski
Chicago Blackhawks - Didact
Colorado Avalanche - Brody
Columbus Blue Jackets - WhatASaveDave
Detroit Red Wings - TorontoMarleauLeafs
Edmonton Oilers – Phion Keneuf
Florida Panthers – Grant
Hartford Whalers - I'm Old Greggg
LA Kings – Kyle93
Minnesota North Stars – Porn*
Minnesota Wild - Altaris
Montreal Canadiens - Dark Knight
Nashville Predators - Terrence
New Jersey Devils – TMLKesselftw
New York Islanders – HarrisonFord
New York Rangers – Boltz88
Ottawa Senators - kamosko
Philadelphia Flyers – DirtyDion03
Phoenix Coyotes - NazemBozak
Pittsburgh Penguins – TheNorthFace
Quebec Nordiques - Tonka
St. Louis Blues – SeenSchenn2
San Jose Sharks - Schenn
Tampa Bay Lightning – Leaffan16
Toronto Maple Leafs – 81snipe
Vancouver Canucks – ajpro20
Washington Capitals – Fearless

Username: TheNorthFace is first in line if someone drops out


Draft Thread: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...7#post67149147
Roster Thread: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...7#post67149277
Chatzy: http://us14.chatzy.com/38073932822676
The following are the rules, guidelines and regulations. The new ones I've created should be italicized or in bold. Also *it is important you avoid getting any infractions during this time period, if you can't PM you will struggle and make it less fun for everyone*

Rules


1. In the end your team will consist of 13 forwards, 7 dman and 2 goalies. You should base your picks on positions: LW, C, RW, D, G. You may lose points from judges if you choose 13 centers, because your team will be dysfunctional. Base your picks on positions. To prevent any confusion of a player who may play more than one position, we will go by what TSN.com has them listed as.

2. You must draft someone who played in the NHL this current season 2012-2013 regular season/playoffs. You cannot pick retired players or players who have left to go overseas.

3. Once on the clock you will be given 2 hours to make your selection. However 12am eastern till 8am eastern will be considered dead time and no GM shall miss his pick between these hours. GM's will however still be allowed to make a pick during these hours if it is his turn to pick. Then once 8 am eastern rolls around the GM who is due to pick next will be on the clock beginning at 8am eastern. If you are on the clock between 9:01 PM eastern and 12 am eastern your time will carry over into the morning and you will go back on the clock beginning at 8 am.

eg. It is 9:34 PM eastern and I am on the clock. I am aloud to make my pick no later then 8:34 AM eastern the next morning.

4. You must PM the GM picking next informing him that you have made your pick and it is now his or her turn to pick. The penalty for failing is you being a dick, and everyone hating you. If it happens enough I'll scream at you through PM for being a dick.

5. If in the event you miss your pick by taking longer than your 2 hour limit, the next GM will be allowed to conduct his pick and the draft will resume. You will how ever be allowed to make your selection still at any point of time that you return to make your pick even if someone else is on the clock.

6. If you make a mistake and pick a player who is already taken the draft will resume and that GM will have to select a new player when he or she is made aware of the invalid pick. That GM will then be allowed to make his new selection at any time. It will be my responsibility to spot any illegal picks, so any issues that arise because of this can be blamed on me. This is not to say that you guys cannot point them out, I would be grateful if you did :D

7. It is up to you as the GM to watch the time that the previous GM makes his pick because once he makes his pick you have 2 hours to make your pick from the time posted of the previous GM's pick.



*I strongly recomend that if your not frequently on here you get an assistant GM or leave your pick preferences with someone you know to select for you.*

8. Once the draft is concluded the 30 teams rosters will go into a new judging thread. I haven’t decided yet on how judging will work, I would be open to suggestions. We could do a vote by committee from GM’s who participated, or I will find 3 different judges, reputable posters or moderator who post on the main NHL Hockey Talk forum. It will not be someone who frequents the leaf board as they may be biased.

9. IMPORTANT NOTICE THAT THIS IS STILL JUST A GAME, AND YOU ARE STILL EXPECTED TO FOLLOW HFBOARDS RULES. In the past, moderators have given us some slack, but don’t abuse it. I expect there will be a chatzy link set up soon, you can curse, threaten and post inappropriate images or remarks there as much as you want.

10. GM's who pick back-to-back only have 2 hours to pick as if they had only 1 pick. You should know when you pick, you might as well make them both.

11. There is not a salary cap.

Trades:

All trades must be announced by all the GM's involved in a trade in the draft trade thread for the trade to be official.

1. TRADES MUST HAVE EQUAL AMOUNT OF ASSETS GOING TO BOTH SIDE. Eg. 1 for 1, or 3 players/picks for 3 players/picks

2. There will be no free agency until after the draft where you can drop players after the draft, to replace them with the ones that are available. First come first serve basis, you can post your pick-ups/drops in the draft thread.
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3. A trade must be posted by a GM in the trade thread and confirmed by the other GM within 8 hours of posting. If the trade is not confirmed within 8 hours, the players/picks involved in the trade will go back to their original teams. If the other GM was not around for the 8 hours, the trade can be posted again and then confirmed. Please note: An AGM cannot post trades or confirm trades. They are free to negotiate trades and make pick selections, but the trade call must be made by the poster who is listed as the GM.
4. Once your pick is OTC, you can no longer make a trade involving that pick.
THIS NEEDS TO CLARIFIED

The rules state that you cannot trade a pick once OTC. If you are just finished negotiations and you end up OTC you can still complete your trade. You just can't negotiate your trade anymore. So your trade should be posted within 5-10 mins of your pick becoming OTC.

Draft-and-trades will not be allowed
People are trying to bypass the rules by picking a player for a team and then trading that player for the pick package. Therefore I will have to add this to the rule: You can't draft a player and trade him within 24 hours. (until the draft is complete of course)

We want to keep the draft moving, if you're online just make your pick


Additional Rules:

1. In the event that a GM decides to quit in the middle of the draft and a new GM can not be hired for that team that GM's players will be removed from the draft like they never existed.

2. After the draft begins any rule changes or additions will be done through a poll amongst the board of governors (All GM's) and Judges. This will avoid any body being upset of a necessary rule change if need be. Majority rules. I am hopping we don't have to do this but I feel it is good to have some sort of documentation of how to handle a situation should it a rise that we must change something on the fly.

3. If a GM misses a pick and his next pick is now due he or she doesn't get 2 hours to pick and the GM in the next slot can make his pick. The GM who has missed the picks can make his or her selections at any time when he or she returns.

4. If a GM does not post in the trade/discussion/draft thread for 36 hours, assuming they had at least one pick in that 36 hours, they will be kicked from the game. This will keep the game going and will ensure that a new GM is not left with a completely awful team.

Judging:

The judging will be based upon the present ability of all current NHL players and not future potential. The team will be judged on its ability to win the cup as of now. The judges will take careful considerations of all strengths and weaknesses of the teams and together decide who wins the Lord Stanley. To make it simple, injuries do play a factor in the judging. If a player was good 3 years ago, but has missed the majority of the past seasons, it will likely be reflected in the judging. If player has had 1 bad year but is considered outside the norm, then they are viewed for their previous work.

*This is not a keeper draft so I wouldn't recommend loading up on all rookies*

Veto of Trades:

In the event a trade is made that causes public outcry because it is very unfair, a veto vote will take place. If there seems to be a lot of justified hate towards the deal, I will create a new thread with a poll. It will remain open for 12 hours, so any GM online in those 12 hours can vote to veto or not veto. If you missed your chance to vote, too bad for you. The GM’s involved in the deal are free to vote, as I’m assuming their votes will cancel out. This puts the onus on you, the GM’s and will avoid any calls of the game being biased or rigged.


*The following is not an official rule, but rather a courtesy*


Please refrain from posting the same rumour multiple times per day. The discussion thread is very useful in that it allows GM’s to post who they are willing to trade, but if you post on Monday at 10am that Thomas Vanek is available, and by Tuesday at 2pm he is still not traded, we understand he is still available, you do not need to remind us. Please minimize spamming, and keep posts about the same player to 1, MAXIMUM 2, per day.

I am willing to work around these rules, some more than others. I basically took Schenn’s rules from last year and altered them.

DD03 06-07-2013 12:14 PM

Pumped!

Warrior16 06-07-2013 12:16 PM

Can't wait too get started boys!

I Like You 06-07-2013 12:17 PM

Quote:

Veto of Trades:

In the event a trade is made that causes public outcry because it is very unfair, a veto vote will take place. If there seems to be a lot of justified hate towards the deal, I will create a new thread with a poll. It will remain open for 12 hours, so any GM online in those 12 hours can vote to veto or not veto. If you missed your chance to vote, too bad for you. The GM’s involved in the deal are free to vote, as I’m assuming their votes will cancel out. This puts the onus on you, the GM’s and will avoid any calls of the game being biased or rigged.
can we not call it the Phion Keneuf rule?:sarcasm:

Community 06-07-2013 12:21 PM

I'll take NJ if there is still space!

Baarle* 06-07-2013 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMLKesselftw (Post 67152987)
I'll take NJ if there is still space!

Great! I'll update the list once I get on my laptop

Baarle* 06-07-2013 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Didact (Post 67152797)
can we not call it the Phion Keneuf rule?:sarcasm:

Unofficially, yes

Leafs For Life* 06-07-2013 12:52 PM

Take away the no pick for pick deal..

Baarle* 06-07-2013 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leaffan16 (Post 67154189)
Take away the no pick for pick deal..

No. If you've been involved in these in the past, you'll notice it takes away from the drafting aspect. And also one bad trade from a rookie gm ruins the fun for many.

DD03 06-07-2013 01:02 PM

What time are you hoping to set the draft order?

Baarle* 06-07-2013 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyDion03 (Post 67154627)
What time are you hoping to set the draft order?

As soon as the teams are filled out. Don't want to post the order before the teams are set up

I Like You 06-07-2013 01:20 PM

wait, you can't trade picks for picks in this draft?

Baarle* 06-07-2013 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Didact (Post 67155435)
wait, you can't trade picks for picks in this draft?

correct. Its all posted above.

Schenn 06-07-2013 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baarle (Post 67155501)
correct. Its all posted above.

that rule is stupid Imo. As gm's we should be able to trade whatever asset we want in any way we want. (as long as same number of assets are going each way and it's fair)

Your also basically putting a near end to trading first round picks since a player has to involved. Picks for picks is a perfectly fine rule that we have had no issue with in the past.

Baarle* 06-07-2013 02:11 PM

Does anyone have any complaints about the draft day/time?

I Like You 06-07-2013 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baarle (Post 67157427)
Does anyone have any complaints about the draft day/time?

even if someone did, will one person opinion affect the entire thing?

Baarle* 06-07-2013 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Didact (Post 67157691)
even if someone did, will one person opinion affect the entire thing?

Probably not for just one person, but it's best when everyone is around for the first round. If a couple people can't make it we can push it back to later at night. Also, speaking of first round, do you guys want to do a speed round in the first round or just leave the 2 hour limit?

PenFifteen 06-07-2013 02:41 PM

hey boys i had fun last year doing this. Can I GM the remaining team?

Baarle* 06-07-2013 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PenFifteen (Post 67158571)
hey boys i had fun last year doing this. Can I GM the remaining team?

Didn't you quit midway last year? I could be wrong.

I Like You 06-07-2013 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baarle (Post 67159013)
Didn't you quit midway last year? I could be wrong.

he took over for a team.

Schenn 06-07-2013 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baarle (Post 67157801)
Probably not for just one person, but it's best when everyone is around for the first round. If a couple people can't make it we can push it back to later at night. Also, speaking of first round, do you guys want to do a speed round in the first round or just leave the 2 hour limit?

2 hour limit. No need to rush.

charliolemieux 06-07-2013 02:57 PM

Is it too early to vote?

PenFifteen 06-07-2013 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baarle (Post 67159013)
Didn't you quit midway last year? I could be wrong.

I took over for that WildCats guy -_- I was san jose last time

The Podium 06-07-2013 03:11 PM

The no trading picks is stupid, that's part of strategy and has worked fine in the past. By the way I teamed up with Leaffan10 as AGM of the Rangers

Baarle* 06-07-2013 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PenFifteen (Post 67159555)
I took over for that WildCats guy -_- I was san jose last time

Ah my bad. Did you want Boston or buffalo?


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