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FrozenRoyalty 06-12-2013 10:58 AM

Poor Playoff Performance Shows That LA Kings Anze Kopitar Is Not An Elite Player…Yet
 
Poor Playoff Performance Shows That LA Kings Anze Kopitar Is Not An Elite Player…Yet

Boba Fettuccine 06-12-2013 11:04 AM

He is also not a Jedi....yet



KingKopitar11* 06-12-2013 01:23 PM

Exactly what I said, he can get a pass for some of you but playing that crappy for such a long time. That's not elite at all. Stoll replacing him said Alot.

Brad Doty 06-12-2013 01:35 PM

Great article, Gann, but that title betrays it a little bit imho.

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Originally Posted by KingKopitar11 (Post 67385827)
Exactly what I said, he can get a pass for some of you but playing that crappy for such a long time. That's not elite at all. Stoll replacing him said Alot.

Here we go again.

sinister6000 06-12-2013 02:00 PM

Kopitar needs to change his mind set at 5 on 5, he can score more goals than Brown and Williams. But he would rather make plays, instead of putting head down, drive to the net and score goals. He could score 40 goals if he shot the puck as much as Jeff Carter. Carter and Toffoli know what they are on this team to do, score goals. Kopi has the size, speed, and skill to be as good as Malkin, Toews, Stampkos, E.Staal. but he has to want be a elite center in the nhl. I'm not sure if Sutter wants him cheat offensively, just so he can rack up the points 5 on 5. 4 years ago the management told him to be a great 2 way center, rather than just a point getter.

Brad Doty 06-12-2013 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sinister6000 (Post 67387649)
Kopitar needs to change his mind set at 5 on 5, he can score more goals than Brown and Williams. But he would rather make plays, instead of putting head down, drive to the net and score goals. He could score 40 goals if he shot the puck as much as Jeff Carter. Carter and Toffoli know what they are on this team to do, score goals. Kopi has the size, speed, and skill to be as good as Malkin, Toews, Stampkos, E.Staal. but he has to want be a elite center in the nhl. I'm not sure if Sutter wants him cheat offensively, just so he can rack up the points 5 on 5. 4 years ago the management told him to be a great 2 way center, rather than just a point getter.

Agree. Especially when you see him charging around like a bull on the boards and in the corner. Hope he recovers fully and gets the speed and strength going again. He needs elite conditioning to survve a full season and slumps!

damacles1156 06-12-2013 02:03 PM

Kopitar doesn't even need to cheat on offense....He simply needs to shoot the puck more, and go to the net....

Kopitar has a very , very,very good shot. His size ,IQ and Hands are good enough that; if he would just go to the net more he would pot 5 to 10 more goals a year...

The Big Giant Head 06-12-2013 02:37 PM

Lets face it, Kopitar is not old but if he doesnt get it together in the next couple seasons then he may never. He might just end up being a really great 1st line center. I agree he needs to be a little more selfish with the puck and shoot more but im less concerned about goals and more concerned about his ability to almost completely disappear from some games or for long stretches. He needs to build more consistency to his game and that may be something that comes from coaching and play style rather than himself as a player. Sutter has yet to have a full season behind the bench and Kopi came in to last season with a bum knee and a shortened season with no training camp.

Im curious to see what Sutter can do with Kopitar with an 82 game schedule and a training camp to get things going.

Axl Rhoadz* 06-12-2013 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Big Giant Head (Post 67389485)
Lets face it, Kopitar is not old but if he doesnt get it together in the next couple seasons then he may never. He might just end up being a really great 1st line center. I agree he needs to be a little more selfish with the puck and shoot more but im less concerned about goals and more concerned about his ability to almost completely disappear from some games or for long stretches. He needs to build more consistency to his game and that may be something that comes from coaching and play style rather than himself as a player. Sutter has yet to have a full season behind the bench and Kopi came in to last season with a bum knee and a shortened season with no training camp.

Im curious to see what Sutter can do with Kopitar with an 82 game schedule and a training camp to get things going.

What Sutter should do is sit Kopitar down in front of a TV and make him watch every game from the 2012 run. Pretty simple, PLAY LIKE THAT.

YP44 06-12-2013 03:04 PM

Crosby had a crap last round of the playoffs. I guess he is not elite.

KingCanadain1976 06-12-2013 03:25 PM

i think this compressed season plus long last season haas taken a bigger toll on our players then they will admit. I think having a extra day or two to rest u wouldnt be as banged up. I think with a full training camp kopitar comes back to life along with serveral others. oh yeah about this us wont beat the black hawks untill we get better offensively I say we would have beat the hawks if we had one more player at the deadline and been totally heathy

Axl Rhoadz* 06-12-2013 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingCanadain1976 (Post 67391501)
i think this compressed season plus long last season haas taken a bigger toll on our players then they will admit. I think having a extra day or two to rest u wouldnt be as banged up. I think with a full training camp kopitar comes back to life along with serveral others. oh yeah about this us wont beat the black hawks untill we get better offensively I say we would have beat the hawks if we had one more player at the deadline and been totally heathy

I think we beat the Hawks had Quick played to his capabilities. I don't even think he needed to be 'lights out'....but he let in some bad goals.

bmr 06-12-2013 03:32 PM

The reason we lost that Hawks series is Kopitar and Brown, secondly to Quick. Not having Mitchell was definitely a factor.

It was Quick's worst series and Kopitar and Brown were basically invisible. Brown was injured, but who knows what was going on with Kopitar. He was dominant in last year's playoffs. Let's give him the offseason to make sure that knee is healed and lament about his performance. I'm expecting him to have a 100 point season in the next couple of years.

Boba Fettuccine 06-12-2013 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axl Rhoadz (Post 67390165)
What Sutter should do is sit Kopitar down in front of a TV and make him watch every game from the 2012 run. Pretty simple, PLAY LIKE THAT.

I am more in favor of shaking him until he plays like that

Telos 06-12-2013 03:41 PM

Cool. Now write one about Toews.

Boba Fettuccine 06-12-2013 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telos (Post 67392137)
Cool. Now write one about Toews.

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KingKopitar11* 06-12-2013 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Perro (Post 67390669)
Crosby had a crap last round of the playoffs. I guess he is not elite.

He had a pretty awesome season when he was playing. Completely different scenarios.

YP44 06-12-2013 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by telos (Post 67392137)
cool. Now write one about toews.

yyyyuuuuupppp

Axl Rhoadz* 06-12-2013 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telos (Post 67392137)
Cool. Now write one about Toews.

Won't need to....until they lose. That's the difference.

Brad Doty 06-12-2013 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Axl Rhoadz (Post 67393179)
Won't need to....until they lose. That's the difference.

Gonna be a bit short on elite players in the league if the criteria is they must make the cup final year after year ;)

The Butcher 06-12-2013 04:28 PM

I keep hearing that Kopi was getting married and that MAY have contributed to his prolonged slump. Anyone got a date on that? Hopefully it was yesterday and he get's back on the wagon immediately after the honeymoon.

Axl Rhoadz* 06-12-2013 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MN14 (Post 67393773)
Gonna be a bit short on elite players in the league if the criteria is they must make the cup final year after year ;)

Not if they are playing well despite losing.....

Ziggy Stardust 06-12-2013 04:37 PM

There's a laundry list of star players who disappointed in the playoffs.

Crosby
Malkin
Toews
Kane
Datsyuk
Perry

Hell, even the best line going right now with Lucic-Krejci-Horton was criticized in the first round. This kind of crap happens every year and then people on message boards start labeling players as choke artists.

BigBrown 06-12-2013 05:06 PM

He's an elite player, he just isn't one consistently.

likid 06-12-2013 05:12 PM

Kopi will be much more apreciated here on this board once he retire or is he traded. Then will some people realise what role Kopi had in that team...


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