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pacehimself 06-13-2013 10:16 PM

Who will be bought out on other teams besides the flyers?
 
It's just about a guarantee that briere and bryz are gone this summer. But what other players will be released because of cap problems, not necessarily skill or production that the flyers might go after?

FlyingPhilly 06-13-2013 10:18 PM

Luongo is a good possibility to get bought out.

flyersfromquebec 06-13-2013 10:18 PM

Richards for the Rangers

Larry44 06-13-2013 10:26 PM

http://www.capgeek.com/player/291

Heard this rumour that the Hawks might buy Hossa out of that horrendous long deal, for fear he retired early. 8 more years with a $5.2M cap hit and he's already 34!

Let's just pick him up to play LW with Giroux....

Larry44 06-13-2013 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyersfromquebec (Post 67464475)
Richards for the Rangers

This is a mystery. What happened to him? Could he fit in nicely at LW with Schenn and Simmonds and as an extra PP weapon, or is he done at 33?


Rangers will pay him $34M for the 7 years left.

Prongo 06-13-2013 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry44 (Post 67464797)
http://www.capgeek.com/player/291

Heard this rumour that the Hawks might buy Hossa out of that horrendous long deal, for fear he retired early. 8 more years with a $5.2M cap hit and he's already 34!

Let's just pick him up to play LW with Giroux....

He will have every team knocking down the door for him, but he would be my ideal forward to play along Giroux. Not only does he have a great scoring touch, but is amazing defensively.

Cootsfanclub 06-13-2013 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prongo (Post 67465055)
He will have every team knocking down the door for him, but he would be my ideal forward to play along Giroux. Not only does he have a great scoring touch, but is amazing defensively.

He also seemingly goes to the finals every year.

sobrien 06-13-2013 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry44 (Post 67464943)
This is a mystery. What happened to him? Could he fit in nicely at LW with Schenn and Simmonds and as an extra PP weapon, or is he done at 33?


Rangers will pay him $34M for the 7 years left.

He went to the Rangers, where all offense goes to die. Little do people know, but Derek Stepan is actually a 85 pt Forward

BernieParent 06-13-2013 11:02 PM

According to the SportsNet list of predicted favourites to be bought out in the West are:

Anaheim - Bryan Allen ($3.5 million cap hit until 2014-15)

Calgary - Matt Stajan ($3.5 million cap hit until 2013-14)

Chicago - Steve Montador ($2.75 million cap hit until 2014-15)

Colorado - Jan Hedja ($3.25 million cap hit until 2014-15)

Columbus - nobody

Dallas - Erik Cole ($4.5 million cap hit until 2014-15) - note, DFF, that SportsNet isn't paying their editors enough to spot that 'Erik' is spelled with a k and not a c ;)

Detroit - Mikael Samuelsson ($3 million for 2013-14)

Edmonton - Kevin Lowe ... uh, I mean, Shawn Horcoff ($5 million cap hit until 2014-15)

LA - nobody

Minnesota - Dany Heatley ($7 million cap hit until 2013-14)

Nashville - Paul Gaustad ($3.25 million cap hit until 2015-16)

Phoenix - nobody. I have to include the write-up: "Let’s make this clear: This isn’t happening. The Coyotes can barely afford to pay their own players. The idea of them paying a player not to play for their club is beyond logic. There’s a reason they have all that cap space."

San Jose - Martin Havlat ($5 million cap hit until 2014-15)

St. Louis - Alex Pietrangelo





Ha ha! No, they aren't buying out anyone.

Vancouver - Keith Ballard ($4.2 million cap hit until 2014-15)


And for the East:

Boston - nobody, %#$!*&&&ing nobody!!!

Buffalo - Ville Leino ($4.5 million cap hit until 2016-17)

Carolina - Tuomo Ruutu ($4.75 million cap hit until 2015-16)

Florida - Ed Jovanovski ($4.1 million cap hit until 2014-15)

Montreal - Tomas Kaberle ($4.25 million cap hit until 2013-14)

NJ - Anton Volchenkov ($4.25 million cap hit until 2015-16)

NYI - Rick DiPietro ($3.57 million cap until 2020-21. SERIOUSLY!)

NYR - Brad Richards ($6.66 million cap until 2019-20)

Ottawa - nobody

Yay, us!!! - Ilya Brygzalov ($5.66 million cap until 2019-20). I think this is rather dumb, as Briere is the logical first choice.

That other NHL city in Pennsylvania - Marc-Andre Fleury ($5 million cap until 2014-15)

Tampa Bay - Vincent Lecavalier ($7.73 million cap hit until 2019-20)

Toronna - John-Michael Liles ($3.87 million cap hit until 2015-16)

Washington - Brooks Laich ($4.5 million cap hit 2016-17.)


Which, if any, of these big-ticket underachievers might interest Paul Holmgren? I'd be inclined to kick the tires with Laich (who put up 149 points in the 3 seasons before this one), Ruutu and Heatley.

cheesesteak 06-13-2013 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry44 (Post 67464797)
http://www.capgeek.com/player/291

Heard this rumour that the Hawks might buy Hossa out of that horrendous long deal, for fear he retired early. 8 more years with a $5.2M cap hit and he's already 34!

Let's just pick him up to play LW with Giroux....

If they are going to buy out Hossa couldn't they wait until next offseason?

pacehimself 06-13-2013 11:12 PM

I would love to pick up heatley if we could swing it....I am pretty excited to see how everything unfolds this offseason

Cootsfanclub 06-13-2013 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cheesesteak (Post 67466501)
If they are going to buy out Hossa couldn't they wait until next offseason?

They can't risk him being injured and be unable to buy him out while they can.

Pantokrator 06-14-2013 12:30 AM

I'd take Gaustad. I'd love to see Hossa, but some team will offer him a good term with big bucks.

GoneFullHextall 06-14-2013 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BernieParent (Post 67466195)
According to the SportsNet list of predicted favourites to be bought out in the West are:

St. Louis - Alex Pietrangelo

.

there is no ****ing way the Blues are buying out Pietrangelo

EDIT: damn it I didnt see what you did there down below. :biglaugh:

captainpaxil 06-14-2013 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BernieParent (Post 67466195)
According to the SportsNet list of predicted favourites to be bought out in the West are:

Anaheim - Bryan Allen ($3.5 million cap hit until 2014-15)

Calgary - Matt Stajan ($3.5 million cap hit until 2013-14)

Chicago - Steve Montador ($2.75 million cap hit until 2014-15)

Colorado - Jan Hedja ($3.25 million cap hit until 2014-15)

Columbus - nobody

Dallas - Erik Cole ($4.5 million cap hit until 2014-15) - note, DFF, that SportsNet isn't paying their editors enough to spot that 'Erik' is spelled with a k and not a c ;)

Detroit - Mikael Samuelsson ($3 million for 2013-14)

Edmonton - Kevin Lowe ... uh, I mean, Shawn Horcoff ($5 million cap hit until 2014-15)

LA - nobody

Minnesota - Dany Heatley ($7 million cap hit until 2013-14)

Nashville - Paul Gaustad ($3.25 million cap hit until 2015-16)

Phoenix - nobody. I have to include the write-up: "Letís make this clear: This isnít happening. The Coyotes can barely afford to pay their own players. The idea of them paying a player not to play for their club is beyond logic. Thereís a reason they have all that cap space."

San Jose - Martin Havlat ($5 million cap hit until 2014-15)

St. Louis - Alex Pietrangelo





Ha ha! No, they aren't buying out anyone.

Vancouver - Keith Ballard ($4.2 million cap hit until 2014-15)


And for the East:

Boston - nobody, %#$!*&&&ing nobody!!!

Buffalo - Ville Leino ($4.5 million cap hit until 2016-17)

Carolina - Tuomo Ruutu ($4.75 million cap hit until 2015-16)

Florida - Ed Jovanovski ($4.1 million cap hit until 2014-15)

Montreal - Tomas Kaberle ($4.25 million cap hit until 2013-14)

NJ - Anton Volchenkov ($4.25 million cap hit until 2015-16)

NYI - Rick DiPietro ($3.57 million cap until 2020-21. SERIOUSLY!)

NYR - Brad Richards ($6.66 million cap until 2019-20)

Ottawa - nobody

Yay, us!!! - Ilya Brygzalov ($5.66 million cap until 2019-20). I think this is rather dumb, as Briere is the logical first choice.

That other NHL city in Pennsylvania - Marc-Andre Fleury ($5 million cap until 2014-15)

Tampa Bay - Vincent Lecavalier ($7.73 million cap hit until 2019-20)

Toronna - John-Michael Liles ($3.87 million cap hit until 2015-16)

Washington - Brooks Laich ($4.5 million cap hit 2016-17.)


Which, if any, of these big-ticket underachievers might interest Paul Holmgren? I'd be inclined to kick the tires with Laich (who put up 149 points in the 3 seasons before this one), Ruutu and Heatley.

A lot of these guys coyuld be interesting at a better price

Flyerfan4life 06-14-2013 01:33 AM

not apeface..


LOL@ that contract extension.

sure glad there is ZERO chance he ends up in philly now..

King Forsberg 06-14-2013 01:36 AM

I'd have interest in Heatley, Leino, Volchenkov, and Lecavalier interest me a little. I like Volchenkov but I'd rather see the Flyers go with some of the D prospects they have.

flyersfan018 06-14-2013 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Larry44 (Post 67464797)
http://www.capgeek.com/player/291

Heard this rumour that the Hawks might buy Hossa out of that horrendous long deal, for fear he retired early. 8 more years with a $5.2M cap hit and he's already 34!

Let's just pick him up to play LW with Giroux....

I'm sorry but this makes no sense.

Quote:

Originally Posted by King Forsberg (Post 67470995)
I'd have interest in Heatley, Leino, Volchenkov, and Lecavalier interest me a little. I like Volchenkov but I'd rather see the Flyers go with some of the D prospects they have.

I'm sure Leino would take a huge pay cut for a second chance with the Flyers.

dats81 06-14-2013 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cootsfanclub (Post 67467437)
They can't risk him being injured and be unable to buy him out while they can.

Not only would they proactively buyout a still productive star player in Hossa but also deliverately throw away another season that they could just wait and see him score goals while reassessing the situation until the buyout window closes next year?
Does not sound plausible to me... not at all!

Using the same logic you can't sign a player to a new long term contract either because there is always a potential risk of him getting injured and the team being stuck with his contract.

DrinkFightFlyers 06-14-2013 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BernieParent (Post 67466195)
According to the SportsNet list of predicted favourites to be bought out in the West are:

Anaheim - Bryan Allen ($3.5 million cap hit until 2014-15)

Calgary - Matt Stajan ($3.5 million cap hit until 2013-14)

Chicago - Steve Montador ($2.75 million cap hit until 2014-15)

Colorado - Jan Hedja ($3.25 million cap hit until 2014-15)

Columbus - nobody

Dallas - Erik Cole ($4.5 million cap hit until 2014-15) - note, DFF, that SportsNet isn't paying their editors enough to spot that 'Erik' is spelled with a k and not a c ;)

Detroit - Mikael Samuelsson ($3 million for 2013-14)

Edmonton - Kevin Lowe ... uh, I mean, Shawn Horcoff ($5 million cap hit until 2014-15)

LA - nobody

Minnesota - Dany Heatley ($7 million cap hit until 2013-14)

Nashville - Paul Gaustad ($3.25 million cap hit until 2015-16)

Phoenix - nobody. I have to include the write-up: "Letís make this clear: This isnít happening. The Coyotes can barely afford to pay their own players. The idea of them paying a player not to play for their club is beyond logic. Thereís a reason they have all that cap space."

San Jose - Martin Havlat ($5 million cap hit until 2014-15)

St. Louis - Alex Pietrangelo





Ha ha! No, they aren't buying out anyone.

Vancouver - Keith Ballard ($4.2 million cap hit until 2014-15)


And for the East:

Boston - nobody, %#$!*&&&ing nobody!!!

Buffalo - Ville Leino ($4.5 million cap hit until 2016-17)

Carolina - Tuomo Ruutu ($4.75 million cap hit until 2015-16)

Florida - Ed Jovanovski ($4.1 million cap hit until 2014-15)

Montreal - Tomas Kaberle ($4.25 million cap hit until 2013-14)

NJ - Anton Volchenkov ($4.25 million cap hit until 2015-16)

NYI - Rick DiPietro ($3.57 million cap until 2020-21. SERIOUSLY!)

NYR - Brad Richards ($6.66 million cap until 2019-20)

Ottawa - nobody

Yay, us!!! - Ilya Brygzalov ($5.66 million cap until 2019-20). I think this is rather dumb, as Briere is the logical first choice.

That other NHL city in Pennsylvania - Marc-Andre Fleury ($5 million cap until 2014-15)

Tampa Bay - Vincent Lecavalier ($7.73 million cap hit until 2019-20)

Toronna - John-Michael Liles ($3.87 million cap hit until 2015-16)

Washington - Brooks Laich ($4.5 million cap hit 2016-17.)


Which, if any, of these big-ticket underachievers might interest Paul Holmgren? I'd be inclined to kick the tires with Laich (who put up 149 points in the 3 seasons before this one), Ruutu and Heatley.

:laugh:

There are a couple guys on that list that I would be interested in signing. Ville Leino comes to mind if he doesn't ask for the moon again...

dawkins121 06-14-2013 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BernieParent (Post 67466195)
According to the SportsNet list of predicted favourites to be bought out in the West are:

Anaheim - Bryan Allen ($3.5 million cap hit until 2014-15)

Calgary - Matt Stajan ($3.5 million cap hit until 2013-14)

Chicago - Steve Montador ($2.75 million cap hit until 2014-15)

Colorado - Jan Hedja ($3.25 million cap hit until 2014-15)

Columbus - nobody

Dallas - Erik Cole ($4.5 million cap hit until 2014-15) - note, DFF, that SportsNet isn't paying their editors enough to spot that 'Erik' is spelled with a k and not a c ;)

Detroit - Mikael Samuelsson ($3 million for 2013-14)

Edmonton - Kevin Lowe ... uh, I mean, Shawn Horcoff ($5 million cap hit until 2014-15)

LA - nobody

Minnesota - Dany Heatley ($7 million cap hit until 2013-14)

Nashville - Paul Gaustad ($3.25 million cap hit until 2015-16)

Phoenix - nobody. I have to include the write-up: "Letís make this clear: This isnít happening. The Coyotes can barely afford to pay their own players. The idea of them paying a player not to play for their club is beyond logic. Thereís a reason they have all that cap space."

San Jose - Martin Havlat ($5 million cap hit until 2014-15)

St. Louis - Alex Pietrangelo





Ha ha! No, they aren't buying out anyone.

Vancouver - Keith Ballard ($4.2 million cap hit until 2014-15)


And for the East:

Boston - nobody, %#$!*&&&ing nobody!!!

Buffalo - Ville Leino ($4.5 million cap hit until 2016-17)

Carolina - Tuomo Ruutu ($4.75 million cap hit until 2015-16)

Florida - Ed Jovanovski ($4.1 million cap hit until 2014-15)

Montreal - Tomas Kaberle ($4.25 million cap hit until 2013-14)

NJ - Anton Volchenkov ($4.25 million cap hit until 2015-16)

NYI - Rick DiPietro ($3.57 million cap until 2020-21. SERIOUSLY!)

NYR - Brad Richards ($6.66 million cap until 2019-20)

Ottawa - nobody

Yay, us!!! - Ilya Brygzalov ($5.66 million cap until 2019-20). I think this is rather dumb, as Briere is the logical first choice.

That other NHL city in Pennsylvania - Marc-Andre Fleury ($5 million cap until 2014-15)

Tampa Bay - Vincent Lecavalier ($7.73 million cap hit until 2019-20)

Toronna - John-Michael Liles ($3.87 million cap hit until 2015-16)

Washington - Brooks Laich ($4.5 million cap hit 2016-17.)


Which, if any, of these big-ticket underachievers might interest Paul Holmgren? I'd be inclined to kick the tires with Laich (who put up 149 points in the 3 seasons before this one), Ruutu and Heatley.

I'd kick the tires around Laich, Richards, and Ruutu definitely. Heatley and Havlat scare me a little too much. Leino maybe for a very, very good price. I don't think there's any chance the Lightning buy out Lecavalier this summer. They'll amnesty Malone to give them some breathing room and give Vinny at least another year before deciding whether to keep him or not.

RJ8812 06-14-2013 09:44 AM

Tampa Bay - Vincent Lecavalier ($7.73 million cap hit until 2019-20)

what a terrible contract. This guy has always been one of the most overrated players in the league

Brostradamus 06-14-2013 09:46 AM

I'm just gonna say that this buyout situation is rather exciting as it will add some big name guys to the FA mix that could be had on the cheap (or at least way less than their current pay) that could come in on a 1-2 year deal, provide vet leadership, and help the young core grow. The Jagr experiment worked well IMO last year.

orange is better 06-14-2013 10:43 AM

I'd be interested in Heatley, Ruutu, Laich or Havlat. Don't want Leino. Heatley on Girouxs wing would be pretty much precisely what that line needs. A big guy who can shoot the puck well from the circle.

Heatley-Giroux-Voracek
Hartnell-Schenn-Simmonds
Gagne-Laughton-Read
Rinaldo-Talbot-McGinn/Rosehill

Timonen-Coburn
Streit-Schenn
Gustafsson-Grossmann

Mason/?
?/Mason

FLYERSFAN18 06-14-2013 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orange is better (Post 67477783)
I'd be interested in Heatley, Ruutu, Laich or Havlat. Don't want Leino. Heatley on Girouxs wing would be pretty much precisely what that line needs. A big guy who can shoot the puck well from the circle.

Heatley-Giroux-Voracek
Hartnell-Schenn-Simmonds
Gagne-Laughton-Read
Rinaldo-Talbot-McGinn/Rosehill

Timonen-Coburn
Streit-Schenn
Gustafsson-Grossmann

Mason/?
?/Mason

Did you trade Couturier in this scenario?


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