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GoBoltz56 06-14-2013 09:22 AM

Filppula's Rights?
 
Since the Wings will likely not be re-signing him, what can his rights fetch? 2nd rounder?

InjuredChoker 06-14-2013 09:51 AM

Doubt it. 4th rounder seems about right.

2nd + was his value at trade deadline imo.

Djp 06-14-2013 09:54 AM

History says 4th rounder for negotiating rights.

2nd not happening.

mydnyte 06-14-2013 09:54 AM

I'd love the Leafs to give him a chance ...i'd expect he can put up more points than Bozak on the top line.

GoBoltz56 06-14-2013 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Djp (Post 67478157)
History says 4th rounder for negotiating rights.

2nd not happening.

4th seems to be the going rate for a 35+ defenseman, not a young 2nd line two-way center.

DatsyukToZetterberg 06-14-2013 10:48 AM

I'd hope for anything at this point. I'd take anything to get him off our hands so a conditional 4th would do it for me. No chance we get a 2nd for him & if we could get a 3rd I'd consider it almost a steal.

Number1RedWingsFan52 06-14-2013 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoBoltz56 (Post 67477047)
Since the Wings will likely not be re-signing him, what can his rights fetch? 2nd rounder?

Yeah usaully for players right a 4th rd pick is about right.

Vankiller Whale 06-14-2013 10:50 AM

What's he asking for? 5m? If we could get him up to 4.5m I wouldn't mind it, but 5m is pushing it.

Number1RedWingsFan52 06-14-2013 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoBoltz56 (Post 67479181)
4th seems to be the going rate for a 35+ defenseman, not a young 2nd line two-way center.

Filppula may have landed a 2nd at the trade deadline but i seriously doubt that he will get a 2nd now history tells us the best we can do is a 4th for his rights.

Number1RedWingsFan52 06-14-2013 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vankiller Whale (Post 67479975)
What's he asking for? 5m? If we could get him up to 4.5m I wouldn't mind it, but 5m is pushing it.

Word is that he's looking for north of 5m around the 5.5m for 5 or 6 years.

Number1RedWingsFan52 06-14-2013 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mydnyte (Post 67478191)
I'd love the Leafs to give him a chance ...i'd expect he can put up more points than Bozak on the top line.

I could see Filppula thriving in Toronto He wants 5m+ If Toronto does'nt mind paying it.

GoBoltz56 06-14-2013 11:33 AM

I can understand the argument that a 2nd rounder in a deep draft might be steep for a week or 2 of exclusive negotiations..but if a 35 year old defenseman nets a 4th, I think a young top 6 center has more value.

wingsfan33 06-14-2013 12:56 PM

i was thinking about that as well if a 35 yr old can fetch a 4th maybe we can get a 2nd off a team like dallas that have multiple 2nd round picks but the longer we wait worst return we will get

BigDaddyLurch 06-14-2013 01:01 PM

Filppula's going to Free Agency, he know's some desperate GM's going to pay 5+ mill for him; why waste a 4th (or 3rd, whatever) for someone who won't sign until the bidding starts? ;)

roboninja 06-14-2013 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wingsfan33 (Post 67484301)
i was thinking about that as well if a 35 yr old can fetch a 4th maybe we can get a 2nd off a team like dallas that have multiple 2nd round picks but the longer we wait worst return we will get

Please present an instance where UFA rights have garnered a 2nd rounder. If it has not happened before, it is doubtful to happen for Filppula.

hot dog 06-14-2013 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoBoltz56 (Post 67481315)
I can understand the argument that a 2nd rounder in a deep draft might be steep for a week or 2 of exclusive negotiations..but if a 35 year old defenseman nets a 4th, I think a young top 6 center has more value.

Filppula isn't exactly young (he'll be 30 next season, certainly not over the hill but not young) and he's really not a top six center. He's more effective as a top six winger (he was great on Zetterberg's wing two years ago) and was getting passed up for the second line center spot when Datsyuk and Zetterberg played together late this season for Franzen.

Al Swearengen 06-14-2013 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wingsfan33 (Post 67484301)
i was thinking about that as well if a 35 yr old can fetch a 4th maybe we can get a 2nd off a team like dallas that have multiple 2nd round picks but the longer we wait worst return we will get

Off the top of my head:
Ehrhoff netted a 4th for rights.
Hamhuis' rights were worth Ryan Parent to Philly and then a 3rd to Pittsburgh
Streit obs just got a 4th.

I don't think that anyone wants to give you a reasonably valuable 2nd round pick for a chance at Filpp

InfinityIggy 06-14-2013 01:54 PM

Flames offer a 3rd for Flippula + 5th.

Billy Mays Here 06-14-2013 01:56 PM

Would totally be down for Filppula on the Wild if we don't re-sign Cullen.

GrindNMuck 06-14-2013 01:57 PM

Its not 100% confirmed that Fllipulla will be gone.

If they are willing to trade his rights somewhere, Go for it. Goodluck..

The redwings will miss him.

If they are going to trade his rights.

Go for a 2nd round pick (13)
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And a 7th round pick (13)

Al Swearengen 06-14-2013 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Mays Here (Post 67486775)
Would totally be down for Filppula on the Wild if we don't re-sign Cullen.

What do you think Cullen's value is?

Number1RedWingsFan52 06-14-2013 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrindNMuck (Post 67486837)
Its not 100% confirmed that Fllipulla will be gone.

If they are willing to trade his rights somewhere, Go for it. Goodluck..

The redwings will miss him.

If they are going to trade his rights.

Go for a 2nd round pick (13)
---
And a 7th round pick (13)

Agreed I would'nt be shocked If Ken Holland did'nt back down and give Filppula a 5 year $25 million contract, I dont see it happening but at the same time i would'nt be shocked if it did.

Billy Mays Here 06-14-2013 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Swearengen (Post 67486965)
What do you think Cullen's value is?

Certainly less than Filppula's (obviously, especially given his age) but he still plays like a guy who just turned 30. If Fletcher is determined not to re-sign him, he could probably be had for a 5th rounder.

Number1RedWingsFan52 06-14-2013 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy Mays Here (Post 67486775)
Would totally be down for Filppula on the Wild if we don't re-sign Cullen.

Your GM already gave huge contracts to Parise and Suter, Dont know why he would'nt to Filppula also.

Billy Mays Here 06-14-2013 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Number1RedWingsFan52 (Post 67487089)
Your GM already gave huge contracts to Parise and Suter, Dont know why he would'nt to Filppula also.

I sense a little ******** in your post.

That being said, Parise and Suter were very rare players that required overpayment to get. Fletcher will be very careful about the contracts he gives out from now on, especially if we can't buyout Heatley because of his injury.


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