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Kovy274Hart 05-31-2005 12:05 AM

Reevaluating Hartford 2004-05
 
Alright. I think it's time for a more inside look at which players performed well and made progress and which didn't perform to expectation.


Here are the top forwards:


Alexandre Giroux, LW 78 GP *32-22-54* +15 128 PIM *13 PP 3 GW
Jeff Hamilton, RW+ 60 GP 23-30-53 +15 32 PIM 6 PP *10 GW
Dominic Moore, C 78 GP 19-31*-50 +14 78 PIM 8 PP *2 SH 3 GW
Jozef Balej, RW 69 GP 20-22-42 +2 46 PIM 5 PP *2 SH 3 GW
Jamie Lundmark, C 64 GP 14-27-41 -1 146 PIM 5 PP *2 SH 3 GW
Layne Ulmer, C 65 GP 7-30-37 +16 23 PIM 2 PP
Chad Wiseman, LW 60 GP 17-16-33 +3 74 PIM 7 PP 1 SH 3 GW
Jed Ortmeyer, RW 61 GP 7-20-27 +11 63 PIM 1 PP 1 GW


Top D-men:


Bryce Lampman 74 GP 7-18-25 +19* 74 PIM 2 PP 1 GW
Lawrence Nycholat 79 GP 5-38-43 +12 132 PIM 2 PP 2 GW
Craig Weller 76 GP 10-9-19 +7 182 PIM 4 PP 4 GW




Players of interest:

Ryan Hollweg, LW 8-6-14 4 -4 3 GW 239 PIM in 74 GP
Thomas Pock, D 1-5-6 +9 55 PIM 1 PP 1 GW in 50 GP
Blair Betts, C 5-4-9 +3 4 PIM 1 PP 1 SH 1 GW in 16 GP
Dwight Helminen, C 2-7-9 -4 10 PIM in 41 GP
Garth Murray, LW 4-5-9 Even 182 PIM 1 GW in 55 GP
David Liffiton, D 0-1-1 -4 74 PIM in 33 GP
Jake Taylor, D 0-3-3 +5 156 PIM in 43 GP
Fedor Tyutin, D 2-1-3 Even 10 PIM 1 PP in 13 GP
Maxim Kondratiev, D 1-4-5 -1 8 PIM 1 PP in 13 GP
Martin Grenier, D 2-5-7 Even 136 PIM in 23 GP
Lee Falardeau, C No stats in 3 GP
Colby Genoway, RW -1 in 4 GP
Trevor Gillies, LW 0-2-2 -4 *277 PIM in 49 GP


Goalies:

35 LaBarbera, Jason 53 2937:16 *31 16 2 6 90 1.84 1284 .934
40 Valiquette, Steve 35 1899:33 19 11 1 *7 56 *1.77 803 .935*

TOTALS: 80 - 50 27 3 13 160 2.00 2087 .929



*led team
+NYI property



Keep in mind Hamilton the yr prior led the 'A' with 43 goals in 67 contests for Bridgeport last yr. Also had a remarkable 20 PP goals and 15 winners. Comprehend that as you digest his stats in McGill's system.


And here is a little extra for my good friend Barnaby on our favorite player Dom Moore. His two seasons. Notice the improvement.


2004/2005 Hartford 78 19 31 50 +14 78 8 2 3 182 .104
2003/2004 Hartford 70 14 25 39 +4 60 3 0 4 174 .080




Barnaby 05-31-2005 12:23 AM

Many players 'improve,' that doesn't mean they are destined to be John Madden... :propeller

NYR1724 05-31-2005 01:26 AM

Lundmark down the stretch really showed improvement in his game. I just hope it can translate into something in the NHL. I was unable to see many Hartford games. Looking at the stat totals I'm assuming the low point totals are due to Ryan McGill's tight defensive system rather then these players not performing, can somebody shed more light on that for me?

Barnaby 05-31-2005 02:49 AM

Basically they are running a tight defensive system based around the goaltender. That's one reason they've really made sure to have strong goaltending prospects. Offensive numbers are definately brought down, but win totals have certainly been up. Guys like Balej who struggled seemed to have a problem putting it together in this system. They'd have more scoring if they had some top legit scoring prospects like a Parise, Carter, etc...

Levitate 05-31-2005 07:40 AM

complete and pure speculation on my part but sometimes i wonder if the pack just don't run a lot of offensive drills :dunno:

some of the games i saw and from what i could tell in a lot of the games i listened to, it seems they sometimes just have trouble putting the puck in the net even though they create good opportunities. i guess you could also say that maybe means they're just not that good...but it's the stats of a guy like hamilton that also make me kind of wonder that...everyone on pack sometimes seemed to flub a little more than their share of scoring opportunities...

DarthSather99 05-31-2005 07:59 AM

I'd rather see the stats low while the players are learning how to be responsible defensively. This is why I believe all the players that came up from Hartford at the end of last year played well at the NHL. They were always in position to make a play.


If a guy scores 50 goals in the AHL in a wide open system then goes into the NHL and can barely muster 10 goals and plays terrible defense, that would be an extreme dissapointment.

Fletch 05-31-2005 10:50 AM

It is amazing...
 
how a perimeter player such as Jeff Hamilton can tally so many goals, even at the AHL level. In watching him play, I'm surprised he was able to get 20 goals.

Levitate 05-31-2005 10:59 AM

basically seemed like he had a rocket of a shot and could score a lot on one timers, as well as sometimes just slipping in to find some loose pucks

but yeah you can see why he's pretty much a career AHLer when you watch him play...

bmoak 05-31-2005 09:23 PM

Here's something posted on the Checkerboard that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere else....

This past Tuesday night -- 10 May -- Ken Gernander met with the Booster Club. Ken is the 8 year captain of the Wolf*Pack. Ken is the ultimate gentleman and heart of the Pack.

Ken spent about 50 minutes talking and answering questions. First, he is not retiring. He told us in his post-season exit interview with the coaches and Jim Schoenfeld that Schoenfeld told him he would recommend to New York that Ken be re-signed. And Ken wants to come back.

I establish this news to demonstrate that Ken was not talking as someone leaving but as someone coming back.

The part of the dialogue which is important here concerns some of the inner workings of the team which Ken told us. He said that it is standard policy for the team that after the 15th game of the season each player sits down with Shoenfeld, the Coaches and with Gernander. The meeting is meant to do 2 things: One, accentuate the positve to the point in the season, and: Two, talk about the weaknesses in the players game and put into effect a plan which will overcome the weakness.

As many of you know the majority of players on this team, in the previous season had gone to the Conference Finals in the playoffs. There was a track record of success and skill. Thus, many of the players were spoken to about improving upon weaknesses in their game where they had already show success and skill.

After these (Game 15) meetings, Ken went on to say that this team continued to have many, many meetings to iron out problems. He claimed he had never been on a team which had so many meetings.

The frustrating thing for Ken, and he said, for the coaches and Jim Schoenfeld was that fact that at the end of the season the same problems they spoke about at the beginning of the season were the same problems spoken of at the end of the season.

Bottom line: Guys failed to develop and many failed to get back to a previous level of skill and success.

Ken gave some more insight when talking about the atmosphere around the locker room --- the atmosphere around the locker room was strained. Everybody seemed to be on a different page. Some guys moping about their own performance; others moping about the teamís performance; and others moping over the whole hockey labor problems.

With all this being said most in the room knew that many players had contracts up. The question was asked directly to Ken about re-signing of players, and would their poor, inconsistant play have an effect upon the re-signing process?

Ken said that he obviously could not answer specific questions in regard to specific players. But he did say, in general, that it had been his experience (in the context of the AHL) that poor play, as was seen this year, does affect the re-signing process of players.

Reading between the lines, but it is my guess, when taking into account Schoenfeld's end-season comments in the paper, McGill's comments, and Ken Gernander's picture of the team -- I suspect many of the guys who have contracts up, some of them who had even been penciled in to have played in New York this season (if there had been an NHL) will be gone from the organization.

The NHL labor stuff is going to have an effect on all this but I see wholesale changes coming.

Ken speculated that if the NHL does not play next year, that guys like Lundmark and Ortmeyer will NOT be with the Pack because the Leauge will force guys with NHL experience to sit out to force more players to bargain, and keep the development nature of the league going.

Levitate 06-01-2005 08:23 AM

that's interesting and not too welcome to hear...it's kind of weird though that this is posted on a Checkers board though...was this a hartford function or is this being passed off as a checkers function he was at? also strange he would basically out his teammates like that...

Barnaby 06-01-2005 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Levitate
that's interesting and not too welcome to hear...it's kind of weird though that this is posted on a Checkers board though...was this a hartford function or is this being passed off as a checkers function he was at? also strange he would basically out his teammates like that...

I wouldn't say he outed his teammates, it's not like he named any names. He just addressed the mood of the locker room more or less. It'll be interesting to see what the team looks like next season.

Levitate 06-01-2005 12:44 PM

eh well it's a safe bet that even without this stuff it'd look a lot different. lundmark, ortmeyer, balej, murray, possibly giroux, hamilton (most likley) aren't going to be there. lampman maybe...moore too, tyutin and kondratiev won't be there to start the season. probably a shakeup in goal as well. you'll see guys like helminen and genoway getting more icetime and dawes and baranka making their debuts and hopefully becoming a big part of the team

lotta turnover this year regardless

Brooklyn Ranger 06-01-2005 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Levitate
that's interesting and not too welcome to hear...it's kind of weird though that this is posted on a Checkers board though...was this a hartford function or is this being passed off as a checkers function he was at? also strange he would basically out his teammates like that...

Gernander really didn't say anything that Schoenfeld hadn't already said at the end of the season. (there was an article in the Hartford Courant where Schoenfeld essentially blew his top at the effort of the some players during the season and the playoff run).

bmoak 06-01-2005 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Levitate
that's interesting and not too welcome to hear...it's kind of weird though that this is posted on a Checkers board though...was this a hartford function or is this being passed off as a checkers function he was at? also strange he would basically out his teammates like that...

Yhat was a Hartford function, naturally. Gernander has no reason to go to Charlotte.

The thread it comes from is here.


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