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johnnyutah 06-25-2013 03:28 PM

OT Vancouver Grizzlies
 
Hey guys, Just wondering how you would feel if the Grizzlies returned to the nba. Do you think if managed right it could last this time? What are some of your fonder memories of the team? what were some of the low points. i think 2nd overall pick steve francis refusing to play for them was a pretty big low.
Also have any of you become raptors fans and embraced them as canada's nba team?

PG Canuck 06-25-2013 03:42 PM

I'd love to see the Grizzles get a second chance - I'm sure many in the lower mainland would.

jigsaw99 06-25-2013 03:48 PM

arent they still paying Big Country's contract?

Yammer 06-25-2013 03:49 PM

I was a very casual NBA fan and to date will only glance at the highlights rather than sit and watch a game start to finish. That said, I thought having the NBA in town was great fun. The athleticism of the players - their ability to contort, feint, make decisions and shoot, all in the second or so that they are in the air - is shocking and never got old for me.

So, that was the highlight.

The lowlight? Probably the Steve Francis draft spectacle, him weeping and clutching his hat and biting his lip in sorrow. I felt moderately defensive for Vancouver; what, are we *so* horrible? Yes it rains, but think of the weed Steve! The weed!

But there were plenty of lowlights, which were virtually ensured by the NBA's daft restrictions on the Grizz regarding cap and drafting position, to say nothing of the curious management of Stu Jackson, who seemed to want to assemble a team consisting of nothing but shooting guards.

LeftCoast 06-25-2013 03:49 PM

Seattle gets the NBA back before Vancouver

Ziostilon 06-25-2013 04:00 PM

Memphis Grizzlies recently changed ownership

Then they let go the coach that took the franchise to their first conference appearance

The Memphis Tigers (NCAA) are bigger than the Grizzlies there

Wish Vancouver could get the Memphis franchise back here.

Reverend Mayhem 06-25-2013 04:05 PM

Is "Don't care" an option?

Hammer79 06-25-2013 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyutah (Post 67982317)
Hey guys, Just wondering how you would feel if the Grizzlies returned to the nba. Do you think if managed right it could last this time? What are some of your fonder memories of the team? what were some of the low points. i think 2nd overall pick steve francis refusing to play for them was a pretty big low.
Also have any of you become raptors fans and embraced them as canada's nba team?

- Well, the Grizzlies are in the NBA, Vancouver isn't.
- Yes, the attendance was there, in fact better than it's been in Memphis, and the $CDN is much closer to par rather than 65 - 70 cent territory during the late 90's / early 00's. The arena is in place, no need to build like Seattle.
- Fonder memories? Uh, starting the first season 2-0 :laugh: ... We got some great visiting players come through town.
- Low points? Definitely Steve Francis. They should have just held onto him and told him to suck it up. Terrible trade too. That, and the relocation rumours for 2 seasons.
- Not really. Once the Grizzlies left, for the most part I stopped paying attention. The Raptors have been pretty terrible for a long time anyway, not much of a bandwagon to hitch on.

PRNuck 06-25-2013 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jigsaw99 (Post 67983281)
arent they still paying Big Country's contract?

Curses, beaten to a Big Country joke!

Just A Bit Outside 06-25-2013 04:57 PM

I'd like to see the Grizzlies back.

As long as Stu "Drive the Franchise into the Ground" Jackson is no where near the team.

Also, I'd like the team to be called the Vancouver Cougars with a logo of some gold-digging bimbo from Yaletown sitting at the bar at Rodney's.

Archangel 06-25-2013 11:26 PM

while we would want a team back, the NBA did not like the bad PR and black eye they got everytime a players stood up and said they did not want to go "that far north"

Chubros 06-25-2013 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mrcrazycanuck (Post 68004981)
while we would want a team back, the NBA did not like the bad PR and black eye they got everytime a players stood up and said they did not want to go "that far north"

Times have changed. I don't think that would be as much of an issue anymore.

Danrik 06-25-2013 11:51 PM

oh this thread again...

don't care about the nba

Back in 94 06-26-2013 01:20 AM

Would love them back.

kes20 06-26-2013 01:50 AM

Would love them back. If the NBA is in fact considering adding another expansion team with Seattle to make it an even 32, you can bet that Aquilini will express some interest. It makes sense considering he owns the building. He would probably need partners though. Does anyone know if he has any ties with Denis Washington? He is the billionaire Vancouver based businessman who apparently had a deal with McCaw last time around (and wanted to keep the team in Vancouver). However, McCaw used that offer as leverage to get a better deal.

vadim sharifijanov 06-26-2013 01:55 AM

zeebs, mc2, pau's fat brother, trick or treat toney, and tayshaun in vancouver? sign me up.

Shorthander 06-26-2013 01:03 PM

No, the NBA is a joke league with selfish players. Small markets like Vancouver don't stand a chance. Even the smaller US markets (which are much larger than Vancouver) struggle to have success.

Eddy Punch Clock 06-26-2013 01:04 PM

Memphis don't want them no more?

Kirk Mclean 06-26-2013 01:09 PM

I'd like it, but only because it would be cool to see other teams coming through. I would support them I guess, but Miami would still be my team.

vadim sharifijanov 06-26-2013 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Shorthander (Post 68026393)
No, the NBA is a joke league with selfish players. Small markets like Vancouver don't stand a chance. Even the smaller US markets (which are much larger than Vancouver) struggle to have success.

you know three of the final four were memphis, san antonio, and indiana right?

Just A Bit Outside 06-26-2013 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by vadim sharifijanov (Post 68033165)
you know three of the final four were memphis, san antonio, and indiana right?

Way different story.

Cannot compare college to the NBA.

In a lot of places in the States, especially smaller markets, college sports are actually bigger than professional sports.

There's a reason there's 100K+ in some football stadiums.

Eddy Punch Clock 06-26-2013 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reds81 (Post 68033711)
Way different story.

Cannot compare college to the NBA.

In a lot of places in the States, especially smaller markets, college sports are actually bigger than professional sports.

There's a reason there's 100K+ in some football stadiums.

Wow, someone who knows less than me about basketball.

:D

MikeK 06-26-2013 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shorthander (Post 68026393)
No, the NBA is a joke league with selfish players. Small markets like Vancouver don't stand a chance. Even the smaller US markets (which are much larger than Vancouver) struggle to have success.

I voted yes because I would like to see how it does if given a fair shot but I agree with this post above. Until they fix the system only a handful of teams will have success. I doubt Vancouver could make it work.

y2kcanucks 06-26-2013 03:12 PM

Is it a coincidence that the Canucks dark days coincided with the Grizzlies being here?

Just A Bit Outside 06-26-2013 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Eddy Punch Clock (Post 68033961)
Wow, someone who knows less than me about basketball.

:D

lol nvm. I just re-read the post and realized it was not NCAA.

I saw final four and immediately thought NCAA as no one really says final four when talking about basketball unless it is college.

My bad.

Anyway, it's all dependent on ownership and management.

The Vancouver franchise would always have a good ownership group because I'd assume it would be the Aquillinis and they want to win.

There's enough people who play/watch basketball in the Lower Mainland that they could easily get solid crowds on a nightly basis.

It all then depends on management which was one of the reasons the last time it failed.


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