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illpucks 06-25-2013 05:09 PM

Does Anaheim have the worst defense in the league?
 
According to HF?

I'm a ducks fan and our best defensemen, Fowler and Beauchemin, are not on the top 10, 20, or 50 of any list ranking defensemen. If they are the best on the Ducks, and they don't even make any list, the others must be considered really bad here.

I'm just wondering if posters in general here think the Ducks have the worst defense in the league?

Machinehead 06-25-2013 05:17 PM

The Ducks have a great defense. Ther individuals not being considered elite doesnt count against the unit as a whole. And I agree that Beau should get more consideration in the best defensive thread, but still people know the Ducks have a good team.

JayKing 06-25-2013 05:17 PM

Oilers, Hurricanes, Lightning & Avalanche come to my mind before the Ducks. There's probably more.

Turrican* 06-25-2013 05:18 PM

Uhhh hello?

http://postmediaedmonton.files.wordp...ng?w=461&h=101

Prairie Habs 06-25-2013 05:19 PM

I'd say EDM or COL

danyhabsfan 06-25-2013 05:21 PM

Colorado comes to mind.


I dont think you can put Anaheim as one of the worst defence in the league when they were 3rd in standings in the NHL.

Edit: Maybe Calgary (without Bouwmeester it doesnt look good on paper)

Mansfield 06-25-2013 05:30 PM

on paper the ducks d is pretty uninspiring. but they play well where it matters, the scoresheet.

No AINEC

Macch 06-25-2013 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by illpucks (Post 67984487)
According to HF?

I'm a ducks fan and our best defensemen, Fowler and Beauchemin, are not on the top 10, 20, or 50 of any list ranking defensemen. If they are the best on the Ducks, and they don't even make any list, the others must be considered really bad here.

I'm just wondering if posters in general here think the Ducks have the worst defense in the league?



There is your problem.


Ducks are no where near the bottom.

3rdEye 06-25-2013 05:36 PM

Surprised Calgary hasn't been mentioned yet.

Giordano is our best d-man. And he played like crap last year.

JeffMangum 06-25-2013 05:38 PM

Colorado had 6 replacement level players on their blueline at one point.

Kershaw 06-25-2013 05:38 PM

Colorado AINEC. They have legitimately no good defensemen.

Turrican* 06-25-2013 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kershaw (Post 67985993)
Colorado AINEC. They have legitimately no good defensemen.

1st overall that was worth Shattenkirk/Stewart says otherwise.

Flour Child 06-25-2013 05:42 PM

The Oilers is the worst by a lot. It's hard to believe that Colton Teubert is too bad to make that team

Turrican* 06-25-2013 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dingo (Post 67986231)
The Oilers is the worst by a lot. It's hard to believe that Colton Teubert is too bad to make that team

Teubert is really really bad though... When Corey Potter plays better than you, you are barely an AHL'er.

OilerTyler 06-25-2013 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turrican (Post 67984949)

In a perfect world Corey Potter would be no where near the Oilers roster.

One of the worst defencemen in the NHL for sure.

Rangers Fail 06-25-2013 05:47 PM

Nope, Colorado and Calgary are definately ahead. Maybe Tampa and Florida.

PAZ 06-25-2013 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turrican (Post 67986181)
1st overall that was worth Shattenkirk/Stewart says otherwise.

You realize the / means either/or, not the combination, right?

TOML 06-25-2013 06:25 PM

Beauchemin just had a hell of a year. But he shouldn't be your best guy.

dss97 06-25-2013 06:40 PM

The Avs have the worst defense in the NHL. The next tier of bad includes the Oilers, Flames, and Lightning.

Dutchy 06-25-2013 09:47 PM

While on the subject of Anaheim defensemen, does Vatanen start the season with the Ducks?

Elever 06-25-2013 10:17 PM

The team leaning towards a fwd with their first pick HAD the worst defence....next year is always different.

Paul4587 06-25-2013 10:22 PM

You're a Ducks fan and you're asking this question? Do we have a great defense - no but it's certainly among the top half in the NHL.

With no changes in the offseason this is what we have next season:

Beauchemin is a great #2 guy - he played like a #1 guy last season but it's unknown if he can sustain his offensive play and be considered a #1 guy going forward.

Fowler is already a good #2-3 guy - he took massive steps forward in terms of defensive play last season and while he did not produce much he generated a lot of chances. He did struggle quite a bit after returning from his concussion but he did take steps forward last season.

Souray when healthy is a good #4 guy who can play heavier minutes if needed but it will wear him down over the course of the season.

Allen is a good #5 guy who has limitations but by the end of the year looked good for us.

Sbisa has potential but is still a third pairing guy at this point. He struggled last year and his hockey IQ is a bit lacking but when he plays within his abilities he's shown he can be a good #4-5 guy.

Vatanen will likely take the 6th spot - he should be fine playing on the 1st PP unit and sheltered 5 on 5 minutes.

There are far worse defense groups going into next season than ours. We could definitely use another top 4 defenseman (preferably a top pairing guy) but so could most teams in the NHL.

KyleBailey12 06-25-2013 10:26 PM

Avs, Lightning and Oil come to mind before the Ducks.

sully1410 06-25-2013 10:36 PM

Philly comes to mind. Not bad on paper...just bad this year lol

Ed Wood 06-25-2013 10:41 PM

Beauchemin finished in the top five for the Norris Trophy. Anaheim has a defense that Edmonton, Calgary and Colorado can only dream about.


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