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Kensai Akatsume Ryu 06-30-2013 09:15 PM

Give this draft a grade!
 
Title says it all. I'll give this draft a A- because of Fucale, Lekkohnen, JDLR and Gregoire. We addressed needs, but at the expense of BPA, or so I believe (hoping I'll eat crows). Netherless, I believe we have two steals in Fucale and Gregoire, hence the A- mark.

Ezpz 06-30-2013 09:17 PM

B. Has potential to swing up or down a ton based on McCarron, DLR and the overagers.

dreamingofdrouin* 06-30-2013 09:20 PM

i don't think it's real;y fair for me to put a grade on it because im not an nhl scout..i don't know all of these players and i don't know where they will end up but if i could rank the way i feel right now between 1 and 10 it would be a 3 or 4 at best.....really unhappy with these players...i barely know any of them...i feel like they're really off the board and but, fucale is a great asset

who is this jeremy gregoire guy...what makes him a steal?

EveryDay 06-30-2013 09:21 PM

B-

Connor crisp and Martin Reway picks make me sad right now....

charlie 06-30-2013 09:21 PM

Fucale puts this draft in an A alone.

Monctonscout 06-30-2013 09:21 PM

Hard to give a draft a grade before at least a half season.

Fucale looks like a very safe pick but a lot of upside. Stunned that we got him at 36. I was hoping we would wait till 34 to get McCarron, so the Fucale pick offsets the risk of McCarron not being a top 6 or high end 3rd liner. De La Rose is very safe also, a lock to at least be a 3rd liner, great intensity and work ethic.

Crisp is a bit of a wild card. Really like Angrighetto, will play NHL, in Montreal or trade bait. Lehkonen and Reway are smaller but high skill and fearless, could be Gallagher type steals. Gregoire is safe, ideally a good 3rd liner(Talbot).

I give the draft a B.

The development of McCarron and De la Rose into core type players will make it an A+. De la rose if his offensive game improves could be a 2 way top 6 guy that plays PP and PK.

Maxpac 06-30-2013 09:21 PM

A-

**** the whiny *****es, before the draft we had 2 needs, size and goalie depth, we covered both really, really well.

TT1 06-30-2013 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EveryDay (Post 68383965)
B-

Connor crisp and Martin Reway picks make me sad right now....

i like reway, high risk high reward pick. i didnt like de la rose over zykov and crisp over hayden. everything else was fine

b for me

Crimson Skorpion 06-30-2013 09:22 PM

I'll give it a B+.

McCarron - Not BPA, but fills a need.
DLR - Very nice pick.
Fucale - One of the bigger steals of the draft.
Lehkonen - Very nice pick.
Crisp - I like him but he's not a 3rd rounder.
Andrighetto - I like him, but a bit early.
Reway - I like this pick.
Gregoire - Love this pick.

If Crisp gets selected with the 7th instead of them trading it and they take Moutrey, I'd rank it an A. I think the first, second, and sixth, seventh rounds are nice picks.

MonkeyBusiness 06-30-2013 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EveryDay (Post 68383965)
B-

Connor crisp and Martin Reway picks make me sad right now....

Not sure why, most of the 3rd round picks don't make the NHL. Crisp has a good chance of making a 4th or 3rd line, Reway has sweet hands and pretty good potential.

edit: If they drafted Crisp in the third round then they wanted him pretty bad, I'm going to trust TT with this one.

Stive Morgan 06-30-2013 09:23 PM

Obviously one can't judge this draft so early, but for now, I'd say B. Love the Fucale pick, but I don't know what we were thinking with Crisp.

Dada 06-30-2013 09:23 PM

I'd say 3.5 out of 5 , picking Crisp that early when Hayden, Hurley, Buchnevich, Duclair out there... Was not the best decision for me, and Andrighetto when Bjorkstand and Slepshyev where there.. I mean the guy would've been there later, too early for me

Monctonscout 06-30-2013 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EveryDay (Post 68383965)
B-

Connor crisp and Martin Reway picks make me sad right now....

Both guys have a strong element of upside. Crisp in the Bickell mode, big physical guy that makes a living 15 feet from the goalie. Reway has crazy skill, if the light goes on and he can dominate like Kane with speed/skill/agility.

hototogisu 06-30-2013 09:24 PM

B-

-Really like McCarron at 25, was near the top of my wishlist for a long time.
-Not thrilled about de la Rose at 34 but I think he'll be an NHLer.
-Can't complain about Fucale at 36 but again, not ecstatic.
-Big fan of Lehkonen, major skill injection to a draft that was lacking it at this point.
-Knew nothing about Crisp, had to think there were better players on the board.
-Andrighetto is all skill, but I think he's a longshot to be an NHLer
-Reway wasn't on my radar much, pretty much same as Andrighetto - another small skill guy who I think is a longshot
-Gregoire also wasn't on my radar much but a lot of people I trust like him so I'll take their word on it...just didn't see him myself.

Kensai Akatsume Ryu 06-30-2013 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamingofdrouin (Post 68383921)
i don't think it's real;y fair for me to put a grade on it because im not an nhl scout..i don't know all of these players and i don't know where they will end up but if i could rank the way i feel right now between 1 and 10 it would be a 3 or 4 at best.....really unhappy with these players...i barely know any of them...i feel like they're really off the board and but, fucale is a great asset

who is this jeremy gregoire guy...what makes him a steal?

Seen him play a lot. He's got an interesting package. Had a tough start to his season, didn't work out as expected with Chicoutimi, psychologicaly hard for him (put a lot of pressure on himself). Once traded to B-C, he played to a whole other level, the one he was expected to be playing at. Was great during QJMHL playoffs, playing around PPG. Situation similar to Hudon I would say: good played, didn't statistically progress as expected, but potential is there. Different players though. Gregoire could become a pretty good 3rd line player. Gritty with offensive upside.

BigDaddyLurch 06-30-2013 09:24 PM

A - I honestly love our picks (Crisp was a reach, but I trust Timmons)...I know everyone's down on the McCarron pick right now, but I think he's gonna be a stud and I'm lovin' addressing our needs...:yo:

DanltQC 06-30-2013 09:24 PM

There is no picks that I not mad at, nor is there any I'm happy of.

Get's a C+

chaosrevolver 06-30-2013 09:25 PM

Looking at individual picks:

McCarron - B+
DLR - B+
Fucale - A
Lehkonen - A-
Crisp - C+
Andrighetto - B
Reway - B-
Gregoire - A-

For the most part a very solid draft. I like Crisp but I do think there were better players at the time.

Analyzer 06-30-2013 09:27 PM

Added size ? Check
Added skill ? Check
Added depth ? Check

Drafted now 1 of the top goalie prospects.

Andrighetto will have to play in Switzerland, or AHL this year ?

donghabs98 06-30-2013 09:28 PM

I gave it a B. This draft is one of those that can really turn out well or be a decent-sub par one. But I like a majority of our picks(Crisp the only questionable one)

gusfring 06-30-2013 09:29 PM

C - like Fucale but the rest is blah...

Also disappointed no deals were made but not shocked.

Watsatheo 06-30-2013 09:29 PM

B, could have been B+/A- if we took one of John Hayden/Pavel Buchnevich/Anthony Duclair/ Oliver Bjorkstrand / Peter Cehlárik over Crisp.

The 1st four picks are pretty solid.

That 06-30-2013 09:31 PM

B-

McCarron - I like the pick, fills a need and has loads of potential to boot. Hopefully he's a Knight.

de la Rose - I'm a huge fan of his. Like the pick, not sold on his upside, but will be a good role player regardless.

Fucale - Fantastic goaltender, didn't want him, but tremendous value at that position. Hard to not like the guy.

Lehkonen - My favourite pick. Super skilled and loves to play in the dirty areas. Injuries have to be concerning.

Crisp - The WTF moment of the draft. I like him as junior player, but not as an NHLer. I see no upside whatsoever. I hope one day I get quoted on this and made fun of because that means he's an NHLer.

Andrighetto - Supremely skilled, but not a fan of the pick. Would have preferred someone with size AND skill.

Reway - Good pick, a little early in my opinion, but he's a joy to watch. Lots of energy and really creative.

Gregoire - Safe pick, not fan of his. Good value at that spot.

The Russian General 06-30-2013 09:31 PM

There's two ways to judge a draft, in the same sense that there's two ways to draft : BPA or needs.

I wont hide it, I have little, very little knowledge about these prospects. From what I've read, if we evaluate by the BPA aspect, it wasn't Habs' best draft. That said, following the needs, it seems Habs did well.

Chris Cutter 06-30-2013 09:32 PM

Can't decide between B and a B-, I'll go with a B because the good outweights the bad.

McCarron - I wanted him with one of our early 2nds, it was a reach at where we picked him but not a big one. A player with McCarron's top tier PWF potential would have intrigued a team willing to take a risk with their pick (like Calgary) so I don't blame Timmins for making sure that we for once don't miss out on a player who brings that type of package.

Jacob de la Rose - Never intrigued when I read about him, read many reports that questionned his offensive ceiling at the NHL level would have prefered Bailey or Diaby. But I'm no expert.

Fucale - Was not interested at 25th but he was a steal at 36th, fills an organizational need, is a local and was viewed as the best prospect at his position.

Lehkonen - Solid pick at that spot, can't ask for more.

Crisp - Didn't like the pick at first but after reading about him for a bit I'm ok with the pick since we lack prospects who could fulfill that role would have prefered Hayden tho.

Liked all of the other picks, compensate for the lack of skills of the other picks, they're obviously long shots but they have nice stats.


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