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Justinov 07-05-2013 11:55 AM

Danes in KHL.
 
Since only Danish-Russian Kirill Starkov have played a short stint in KHL for CSKA Moskva in 2008/09 (18 games), it has been a "no-mans land" for Danish players until now.

Patrick Bjørkstrand has signed with the Croatian debutant KHL-team Medvescak Zagreb as one of the two obligatory young players on the team.
Source: http://www.sporten.dk/ishockey/patri...kifter-til-khl

If Peter Regin doesn't get a new contract in NHL, then he has reported offers from several KHL teams, so it might end with a new Danish surge east.
Edit: Same minute I learn that Regin signed with NYI, so Patrick Bjørkstrand has to wait for the surge to follow him!

BalticWarrior 07-05-2013 04:18 PM

what about Hardt? Jokerit joins khl in 2014/2015 season

Justinov 07-06-2013 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BalticWarrior (Post 68779759)
what about Hardt? Jokerit joins khl in 2014/2015 season

If Nichlas Hardt stays in Jokerit to that season then it certainly looks that way.

ficohok* 08-11-2013 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Justinov (Post 68719807)
Since only Danish-Russian Kirill Starkov have played a short stint in KHL for CSKA Moskva in 2008/09 (18 games), it has been a "no-mans land" for Danish players until now.

Patrick Bjørkstrand has signed with the Croatian debutant KHL-team Medvescak Zagreb as one of the two obligatory young players on the team.
Source: http://www.sporten.dk/ishockey/patri...kifter-til-khl

If Peter Regin doesn't get a new contract in NHL, then he has reported offers from several KHL teams, so it might end with a new Danish surge east.
Edit: Same minute I learn that Regin signed with NYI, so Patrick Bjørkstrand has to wait for the surge to follow him!

Today scored his first two goals (added two assists) in pre-season game against Olimpija. In first game against Torpedo he played well, got some PP and PK time. Served as 13th forward and played on three diffirent lines during that game.

Next game for him and Medvescak on Saturday (17th) against Vityaz.

brec7 08-12-2013 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BalticWarrior (Post 68779759)
what about Hardt? Jokerit joins khl in 2014/2015 season

In theory, if the KHL lifts nationality restrictions after Sochi, Jokerit could build a good team by having essentially first crack at Finns AND Swedes/Danes that aren't good enough for the NHL or are lower level NHL guys looking for more playing time/money/to be closer to home.

I'm not super familiar with Danish hockey aside from the mini-explosion of guys into the NHL, what is the non NHL contingent of Danes like? Is their domestic league improving? How about the Danes in the SEL?

admire 08-12-2013 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by brec7 (Post 70125433)
In theory, if the KHL lifts nationality restrictions after Sochi, Jokerit could build a good team by having essentially first crack at Finns AND Swedes/Danes that aren't good enough for the NHL or are lower level NHL guys looking for more playing time/money/to be closer to home.

I'm not super familiar with Danish hockey aside from the mini-explosion of guys into the NHL, what is the non NHL contingent of Danes like? Is their domestic league improving? How about the Danes in the SEL?

We used to have quote a few sel players but are severely lacking in that area. We have some in finland and Germany and the second best swedish league...

We have frederik andersen and the lauridsen in the ahl.

Justinov 08-12-2013 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CroHabitant (Post 70108531)
Today scored his first two goals (added two assists) in pre-season game against Olimpija. In first game against Torpedo he played well, got some PP and PK time. Served as 13th forward and played on three diffirent lines during that game.

Next game for him and Medvescak on Saturday (17th) against Vityaz.

Great start for him then! Hope he can improve his standing then from 13'th forward to regular when the season starts.
Thanks for the updates :)

andersej 08-14-2013 11:57 AM

There's already a rumour that Bjorkstrand will be loaned to Ljubljana in the EBEL:

http://www.ekipa.org/2013/08/sami-svoji-gospodarji/

ficohok* 08-14-2013 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by andersej (Post 70194965)
There's already a rumour that Bjorkstrand will be loaned to Ljubljana in the EBEL:

http://www.ekipa.org/2013/08/sami-svoji-gospodarji/

That is just a rumor, and 99% it won't happen. First, IIHF denied cooperation attempts between Medvescak and Olimpija.

Second, he is one of the several U22 players on the roster and third he is better than Gal Koren (same birth year as Bjorkstrand), so there is a little to no chance that he is going anywhere. He will be the "Bear" for a season. :)

vorky 08-14-2013 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CroHabitant (Post 70199619)
That is just a rumor, and 99% it won't happen. First, IIHF denied cooperation attempts between Medvescak and Olimpija.

Second, he is one of the several U22 players on the roster and third he is better than Gal Koren (same birth year as Bjorkstrand), so there is a little to no chance that he is going anywhere. He will be the "Bear" for a season. :)

there can be "classic" loans among clubs. Medvescak/Olimpija wanted something else, if I understand.

I can agree with second paragraph

ficohok* 08-14-2013 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by vorky (Post 70199713)
there can be "classic" loans among clubs. Medvescak/Olimpija wanted something else, if I understand.

I can agree with second paragraph

True, but that classic loan would cost Olimpija four points (you know probably that in EBEL you have 60 available points to build roster, and every player is worth diffirent amount of points, from 0 to 4, depends on age, is he NT player, foreginer...). As Bjorkstrand would be foreginer in Olimpija, he would cost them four points and it is question whether Olimpija would take a risk with him.

As I said, Koren would be better candidate for loan, as he wouldn't count as foreginer in Olimpija. :)

vorky 08-14-2013 03:09 PM

Aha, I did not know about points in EBEL... that is news for me. It make sense not to loan Bjorkstrand. At the moment, he is not at active roster of Medvescak. Of course, it can be changed in following days.

ficohok* 08-14-2013 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by vorky (Post 70200505)
Aha, I did not know about points in EBEL... that is news for me. It make sense not to loan Bjorkstrand. At the moment, he is not at active roster of Medvescak. Of course, it can be changed in following days.

How do you mean ? AFAIK he is on active roster...:dunno:

vorky 08-14-2013 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CroHabitant (Post 70200789)
How do you mean ? AFAIK he is on active roster...:dunno:

http://www.khl.ru/clubs/medvescak it can be changed, clubs have to do last changed 24 hours before 1st match. Of course, after this game the club can do whatever wants with players (send them to farm etc). Nothing serious now, it is summer time. :D

Ivan94 08-14-2013 03:45 PM

maybe its better for him to get good ice-time in EBEL then being 13th/14th forward in KHL. an classic loan to olympia would be an option.

ficohok* 08-14-2013 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ivan94 (Post 70201705)
maybe its better for him to get good ice-time in EBEL then being 13th/14th forward in KHL. an classic loan to olympia would be an option.

Read my previous post about "classic" loan. ;-) And he will play in 4th line, was good against Torpedo, and after all he needs to be on roster because we need two U22 players.

Justinov 09-05-2013 12:41 PM

So Medvescak Zagreb begins its first match tomorrow in the KHL against CSKA Moskva. But according to the KHL homepage Patrick Bjørkstrand is not listed on the team roster; but he is listed on the Medvescak homepage!?
Eliteprospect.com has him rumoured to be loaned to Olimpija Ljubljana.

So I guess we will have to wait for tomorrows game to see if he is in or out of the team?!

ficohok* 09-06-2013 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Justinov (Post 70816459)
So Medvescak Zagreb begins its first match tomorrow in the KHL against CSKA Moskva. But according to the KHL homepage Patrick Bjørkstrand is not listed on the team roster; but he is listed on the Medvescak homepage!?
Eliteprospect.com has him rumoured to be loaned to Olimpija Ljubljana.

So I guess we will have to wait for tomorrows game to see if he is in or out of the team?!

I don't know why he is not listed on KHL homepage, but I have inside information that he will be on tonight roster along with Koren and Vasiljević (Patrick and Koren as U22, and Vasiljević as NT).

Game starts at 17.30, you can find stream at http://sportska-tv.com/

Loan rumor to Olimpija dates back when Olimpija and Medvescak tried to deal cooperation.

vorky 09-06-2013 09:11 AM

Not KHL, but VHL.. but still, D Bodker


Justinov 09-06-2013 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by CroHabitant (Post 70843615)
I don't know why he is not listed on KHL homepage, but I have inside information that he will be on tonight roster along with Koren and Vasiljević (Patrick and Koren as U22, and Vasiljević as NT).

Game starts at 17.30, you can find stream at http://sportska-tv.com/

Loan rumor to Olimpija dates back when Olimpija and Medvescak tried to deal cooperation.

P. Bjørkstrand is playing the 2. Line for todays game against CSKA. Going great for the debutants. Second period and 3-0. No points for Bjørkstrand yet, but has one shot on goal according to the KHL homepage.
End of second period and 4-1 to medvescak. Bjørkstrand with 2 shots on goal. Really looks like a surprise victory!
Game ended with a massive 7-1 victory. Bjørkstrand and the second line played very little in the third period so no extra shots on goal or points for him. But what a start for the croat team!

Justinov 09-06-2013 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by vorky (Post 70845943)
Not KHL, but VHL.. but still, D Bodker


Thanks for the video of Mads Bødker with young Chistyakov as translator since he grew up in Denmark.
So with a good effort in VHL he might upgrade to KHL eventually.

BalticWarrior 09-07-2013 04:32 AM

Great to see Danes trying to get into KHL system,maybe the ultimate goal is to take away that job from norwegians? :sarcasm:

ficohok* 09-07-2013 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Justinov (Post 70849615)
P. Bjørkstrand is playing the 2. Line for todays game against CSKA. Going great for the debutants. Second period and 3-0. No points for Bjørkstrand yet, but has one shot on goal according to the KHL homepage.
End of second period and 4-1 to medvescak. Bjørkstrand with 2 shots on goal. Really looks like a surprise victory!
Game ended with a massive 7-1 victory. Bjørkstrand and the second line played very little in the third period so no extra shots on goal or points for him. But what a start for the croat team!

Bjorkstrand played in line with Murray and Jessiman. They have had very hard task as they were matched up against Radulov's line. When Patrick signed for us, I read comment on one Sweden site that he is lazy sometimes, but so far (I watched him in three games since he joined) he didn't show any kind of lazyness, au contre, it seems that he is really hard-working guy. He and his line did very good job five on five against CSKA top line. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=RALvL-H9_u8 Game

Justinov 09-07-2013 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CroHabitant (Post 70872147)
Bjorkstrand played in line with Murray and Jessiman. They have had very hard task as they were matched up against Radulov's line. When Patrick signed for us, I read comment on one Sweden site that he is lazy sometimes, but so far (I watched him in three games since he joined) he didn't show any kind of lazyness, au contre, it seems that he is really hard-working guy. He and his line did very good job five on five against CSKA top line. :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=RALvL-H9_u8 Game

Thanks for your Bjørkstrand report :)
So it seems that Bjørkstrand and the second line did a very good job to prevent Radulov and Co from scoring.
I haven't seen him playing for Mora, but during the world championship he was definitely not lazy when playing for the Danish NT. Actually he was almost overeager and showed the will to win by hard work.
Maybe it was just because of youth he needed the transition from Denmark to Sweden to become a full professional - working hard every time.

Justinov 09-07-2013 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BalticWarrior (Post 70871701)
Great to see Danes trying to get into KHL system,maybe the ultimate goal is to take away that job from norwegians? :sarcasm:

It would be impossible for almost any nation to remove Thoresen from the roster; but to even the "score" by having at least as many players as them in KHL would be the immediate goal! :D


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