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Jtown 07-06-2013 06:52 PM

Bob Froese 85-86
 
How did he not win the Vezina that year. Really his numbers were so much better than any candidate out there. It is a real shame he never won.

TheDevilMadeMe 07-06-2013 07:01 PM

Considered by many to be at least somewhat of a product of his team. Notice that the 1984-85 winner (Pelle Lindbergh) and the 1986-87 winner (Ron Hextall) were both Flyers.

tombombadil 07-06-2013 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDevilMadeMe (Post 68858725)
Considered by many to be at least somewhat of a product of his team. Notice that the 1984-85 winner (Pelle Lindbergh) and the 1986-87 winner (Ron Hextall) were both Flyers.

wow, that really says something about the Flyers, or their division/conference. Pretty wild to do that with three straight goalies, none of which truly became anything amazing.

Side note - I had no idea that Beezer (who's numbers were way back of Froese's, btw) had so many assists! I looked him up, of course, because of this thread. 38 career points, close to Brodeur, and in far less games. I didn't know him as a puck handler.

Trottier 07-06-2013 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tombombadil (Post 68858931)
wow, that really says something about the Flyers, or their division/conference. Pretty wild to do that with three straight goalies, none of which truly became anything amazing.

It wasn't the division. In 85-86 the Patrick Division featured not one, but two teams with 50 wins (Flyers, Capitals); an NYI team, which was no longer Cup caliber but still a playoff squad just a year removed from its last SCF appearance; and a competitive NYR squad. Pens were poor but featured a young Mario. Devils brought up the bottom and were drek (this was pre-Lou).

Flyers of the mid-80s were a very good - and very good defensive - team, reaching the SCF twice in three years.

As for the goaltenders, true, Froese certainly had a respectable career and Hextall fizzled after a great opening act; neither were "amazing". But Lindberg certainly had the potential for an elite career.

Doctor No 07-06-2013 08:02 PM

We were talking about this just the other day (starting here: http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/sh...php?p=68100283 ) and my conclusion was similar to TDMM's - there was a team effect going on that hurt Froese in the voting (alternatively, there was a team effect going on that helped Froese in the stats).

Not going to post my link, since that's just what everyone expects at this point. :laugh:

Jtown 07-06-2013 08:56 PM

Sure he was a product of that D, but you know I think he still should have won, and The defense of that era should have gotten the recognition it deserves.

DawsonCityNuggets 07-06-2013 08:58 PM

I remember, those were great years to be a Flyers fan. We had everything but the cup. Man, I hated those Oilers! Bob was a great goalie and deserves credit for it. He stepped in and was amazing after Lindbergh died.


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