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jhaf1210 07-06-2013 11:16 PM

Offer Sheet
 
Not sure if it has been brought up or not, but would it be worth while to try and sign one of the young RFA forwards to an offer sheet? Like Derek Stepan, Marcus Johansson, or Adam Henrique? Would cost you at most two 1sts, 2nd and 3rd to sign any of them, and gotta think all of their original teams are going to have trouble matching any sort of long term offer. Would probably have to overpay a good bit to get any of them to even consider signing, but you could offset that some by dumping Legwand, Gaustad and/or Fisher's contracts for picks or a veteran defenseman.

Persona5 07-06-2013 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jhaf1210 (Post 68868487)
Not sure if it has been brought up or not, but would it be worth while to try and sign one of the young RFA forwards to an offer sheet? Like Derek Stepan, Marcus Johansson, or Adam Henrique? Would cost you at most two 1sts, 2nd and 3rd to sign any of them, and gotta think all of their original teams are going to have trouble matching any sort of long term offer. Would probably have to overpay a good bit to get any of them to even consider signing, but you could offset that some by dumping Legwand, Gaustad and/or Fisher's contracts for picks or a veteran defenseman.

First of all the poile will never do that and second of all unless you throw some really stupid contract offer at one of these guys the team will simply match it. Stepan would be the only one you could have a chance at because of cap issues and he isnt an elite talent anyways. An uPgrade yes but not elite.

AtlantaWhaler 07-06-2013 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Persona5 (Post 68868807)
First of all the poile will never do that and second of all unless you throw some really stupid contract offer at one of these guys the team will simply match it. Stepan would be the only one you could have a chance at because of cap issues and he isnt an elite talent anyways. An uPgrade yes but not elite.

To add, I don't think we have the cap room to make a major move like that

INDhockeyfan 07-06-2013 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jhaf1210 (Post 68868487)
Not sure if it has been brought up or not, but would it be worth while to try and sign one of the young RFA forwards to an offer sheet? Like Derek Stepan, Marcus Johansson, or Adam Henrique? Would cost you at most two 1sts, 2nd and 3rd to sign any of them, and gotta think all of their original teams are going to have trouble matching any sort of long term offer. Would probably have to overpay a good bit to get any of them to even consider signing, but you could offset that some by dumping Legwand, Gaustad and/or Fisher's contracts for picks or a veteran defenseman.

After what happened with Weber, Poile would never do that. We could suck again next year and that 1st pick may be more valuable then the player we got.

jhaf1210 07-06-2013 11:49 PM

Yeah I don't think Poile would actually ever do it, just was wondering if it make sense to try. Kind of surprised that it hasn't generated more talk around the league. There are quite a few pretty good RFAs out there and figured someone might take a chance especially with the new compensation scale and the cap going down this year. Maybe the cap going down is what has kept it from happening.

worstfaceoffmanever 07-06-2013 11:53 PM

David Poile is a sheep in sheep's clothing. He would never dish out an offer sheet like that, except against Flyers, because Paul Holmgren is a d***** canoe.

jhaf1210 07-11-2013 12:09 AM

Been rolling through options for the Preds and have a question about sign and trade deals. You see teams in the NBA do it all the time, and remember it mentioned during Weber's RFA summer and in passing during the CBA negotiations. Haven't poured through the CBA to see if there is anything about it, but goggling didn't turn up much. What made me think of it is, instead of submitting an offer sheet for a player especially one on a team who couldn't match, could you call that GM and say if you sign the RFA to (x) contract I will trade you this package of assets for that player with that contract? Sort of an offer sheet without the offer sheet, and both parties can get more fitting compensation.

triggrman 07-11-2013 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jhaf1210 (Post 69057567)
Been rolling through options for the Preds and have a question about sign and trade deals. You see teams in the NBA do it all the time, and remember it mentioned during Weber's RFA summer and in passing during the CBA negotiations. Haven't poured through the CBA to see if there is anything about it, but goggling didn't turn up much. What made me think of it is, instead of submitting an offer sheet for a player especially one on a team who couldn't match, could you call that GM and say if you sign the RFA to (x) contract I will trade you this package of assets for that player with that contract? Sort of an offer sheet without the offer sheet, and both parties can get more fitting compensation.

Happens all the time. Pretty much what happened with Kessel I believe.

PredsV82 07-11-2013 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by triggrman (Post 69064249)
Happens all the time. Pretty much what happened with Kessel I believe.

I think what happened was the teams looking to trade for kessel (Toronto ans us) were given permission to talk to kessels agent to make sure an extension could be reached and that's what screwed us is either we couldn't match Torontos money or keasel wouldn't agree to sign here for any reasonable amount


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