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5RingsAndABeer 07-07-2013 02:01 PM

Most Valuable Oiler
 
Who do you think is the most valuable Oiler going forward?

Consider age, contract, injury history, positional value, leadership, potential, etc... One way of thinking of it would be: in a trade to a neutral team, who would bring the greatest return?

AlowlyOilersfan 07-07-2013 02:02 PM

Hall.

I don't think anyone compares.

edit: in terms of thread ideas, you could redo the prospect ranking thread

there's been a lot of turnover.

RisingSun 07-07-2013 02:02 PM

Hall then Yakupov

hawks889 07-07-2013 02:03 PM

No doubt in my mind it is Hall right now.

Mr Forever 07-07-2013 02:04 PM

Hall, RNH and Yakupov are the main 3.
Schultz and Eberle are in the next category with Klefa and Nurse knocking on the door.
The third category include the likes of Petry, Gagner, Smid and Paajarvi.

5RingsAndABeer 07-07-2013 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Forever (Post 68892025)
Hall, RNH and Yakupov are the main 3.
Schultz and Eberle are in the next category with Klefa and Nurse knocking on the door.
The third category include the likes of Petry, Gagner, Smid and Paajarvi.

Completely agreed. Might put Dubnyk into that final category depending on how his season goes.

MikeModano9 07-07-2013 02:07 PM

Hall
Yak/Nuge
Ebs/Schultz

Jepprey 07-07-2013 02:14 PM

Hall and it's not even close.

Roof Daddy 07-07-2013 02:47 PM

Why do I get the feeling this is a case of "what have you done for me lately." The Nuge is our most valuable player by a landslide going forward. The best hockey IQ of the bunch, best defensive ability, the most engaging physically of the young guns (an area Hall SHOULD lay claim to, but doesn't). Best passer, shifty skater, and an underrated shot that will be more prevalent with his repaired shoulder.

Hall is a great player, but his hockey IQ is questionable at best. Not a read and react player like the Nuge, and it shows with some of his bad turnovers in the offensive zone. Saw it in full display at the WC, and it didn't take long for his ass to get stapled to the bench.

That said, I think Eakins is going to challenge Hall this year to expand his physical game. If that happens, and he tightens up his poor decision making, it might be a closer race. But this has nothing to do with last year and everything to do with the next 10 years. That's why it's the Nuge for me.

Petro Points 07-07-2013 02:51 PM

I hope it becomes Nuge but right now it is Hall by a long shot

NeutralZone 07-07-2013 02:58 PM

Hall has the most trade value, but I'd protect Nuge first in an expansion draft.

Spawn 07-07-2013 03:08 PM

Hall was the most dynamic and dominant left winger in the NHL last year. RNH had one of, if not the worst second seasons of a first overall pick that we've seen in over 20 years. This is Hall, and it isn't even close right now.

We need to stop evaluating on potential and start looking at who is the most valuable right now. We've been evaluating on potential for far too long. Hasn't worked for us in the slightest.

Trafalgar Law 07-07-2013 03:11 PM

Hall will be the best player, but RNH will be more valuable because we have nobody else with his skillset and position.

Tarus 07-07-2013 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spawn (Post 68894965)
Hall was the most dynamic and dominant left winger in the NHL last year. RNH had one of, if not the worst second seasons of a first overall pick that we've seen in over 20 years. This is Hall, and it isn't even close right now.

We need to stop evaluating on potential and start looking at who is the most valuable right now. We've been evaluating on potential for far too long. Hasn't worked for us in the slightest.

My thoughts exactly

KClovesGaming 07-07-2013 03:42 PM

Hall and it isn't even close. On a scale of work ethic, compared to everyone else on the team, it's off the charts. He works so hard and wants it so bad. You can just see it. But then it's so depressing when you see that and see his teammates and they're just coasting watching him. :(

dnicks17 07-07-2013 03:55 PM

I can't even honestly comprehend how anyone would not choose Hall.

Matt Ryan 07-07-2013 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dnicks17 (Post 68897211)
I can't even honestly comprehend how anyone would not choose Hall.

Because Nuge is also very valuable?

Roof Daddy 07-07-2013 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spawn (Post 68894965)
Hall was the most dynamic and dominant left winger in the NHL last year. RNH had one of, if not the worst second seasons of a first overall pick that we've seen in over 20 years. This is Hall, and it isn't even close right now.

We need to stop evaluating on potential and start looking at who is the most valuable right now. We've been evaluating on potential for far too long. Hasn't worked for us in the slightest.

The OP asked "who is the most valuable going forward," not "who was the most valuable last year." As usual, the HF community is really willing to go out on a limb with predictions, as I'm sure a similar poll last year/during the lockout would have found Eberle to be our most valuable.

You're basing your opinion of RNH on a season where his shoulder seriously limited what he was able to do. "Evaluating on potential for far too long" applies to Hemsky age 25-28 where we were still waiting for him to break out. Nuge just turned 20 less than 3 months ago. Are you trying to tell me he has plateaued?:shakehead

nofool6110 07-07-2013 08:23 PM

The Nuge is great.

But Hall. AndIt'sNotEvenClose.

supert 07-07-2013 08:33 PM

Hall right now . If the Nuge becomes the player we all think he will it may change , we also have to remember hall is still developing and will continue to improve . Should be a scary thought for some teams

The Nuge 07-07-2013 08:34 PM

It's easily Hall. It might change, but this would be better being who's the 2nd most valuable Oiler after Hall

402 07-07-2013 08:37 PM

At the moment its Hall but moving forward i think it will be nuge
Elite centermen are hard to find and nuge is the only good onr we have
So Hall for now but hopefully by the end of next season its nuge he needs to have a strong healthy season

s7ark 07-07-2013 08:48 PM

Hall is the most developed of our 1st overalls and his absence is most dramatically noticed. So he will win this in a landslide.

Joey Moss 07-07-2013 08:55 PM

The question was who will be most important going forward, which is why I answered Nugent-Hopkins. I believe he will be just as good as Hall offensively and far and away our best all around player.

6 Karlsson 5 07-07-2013 11:59 PM

1. T.Hall- Best player of all them right now, and very competitive
2. R.Nugent-Hopkins- Probably has the most potential out of all the oilers
3. N.Yakupov- younger the ebs and is very competitive
4. J.Eberle- He slightly older then the rest but he is a leader and is Clutch
5. J.Schultz- Simply not as good as the others yet, time will tell if he can catch them


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