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BillyShoe1721 07-13-2013 11:18 PM

Top 20 Flyers Prospects(#1)
 
With FA slowed down and prospect camp over, we could use something to talk about. Post who you think should be added to the poll. Maybe we'll even finished all 20 this year.:laugh:

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hockeyphan25 07-13-2013 11:59 PM

You can add Jason Akeson

sobrien 07-14-2013 12:03 AM

In the first thread, can we decide what this will be based off of? Where they are right now (aka how quickly they'll make the Flyers) or what their ceiling is (how good they COULD be).

I'd prefer ceiling, if I were to cast a vote.

FLYguy3911 07-14-2013 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by sobrien (Post 69187539)
In the first thread, can we decide what this will be based off of? Where they are right now (aka how quickly they'll make the Flyers) or what their ceiling is (how good they COULD be).

I'd prefer ceiling, if I were to cast a vote.

I think you have to take into account ceiling and the probability of that player hitting that ceiling. If you go pure ceiling, Morin is #1. If you take into account probability, than Laughton's probably #1.

Broad Street Elite 07-14-2013 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by FLYguy3911 (Post 69187817)
I think you have to take into account ceiling and the probability of that player hitting that ceiling. If you go pure ceiling, Morin is #1. If you take into account probability, than Laughton's probably #1.

I'll buy this. Ceiling + Floor + Likelihood of either.

hockeyphan25 07-14-2013 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by FLYguy3911 (Post 69187817)
I think you have to take into account ceiling and the probability of that player hitting that ceiling. If you go pure ceiling, Morin is #1. If you take into account probability, than Laughton's probably #1.

I'd say it shoud be the guy you'd be most hesitant to trade assuming the same depth at all positions. I beleive this would have the same results as taking both ceiling and probability of reaching it into account.

Krishna 07-14-2013 05:57 AM

top 5 are probably :
Morin
Hagg/Gostisbehere
Hagg/Gostisbehere
Stolarz
Cousins/Akeson

Prongo 07-14-2013 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Krishna (Post 69192239)
top 5 are probably :
Morin
Hagg/Gostisbehere
Hagg/Gostisbehere
Stolarz
Cousins/Akeson

I think you forgot Laughton...

TheCerebral1 07-14-2013 08:13 AM

Still Laughton until further notice. Morin has an interesting mix of size and ability. He needs a continuation in the system. We'll see. I love Hagg, more than Morin right now though while he carries his own risk.

JoeFlyer 07-14-2013 08:43 AM

The inclusion of Laughton probably makes it a no-brainer. However I'd probably go with Hagg second. Sounds like his game is pretty good all round already just his consistancy is the issue. I'd expect that likely to work out in the course of normal development alongside his skills to generally improve.

Morin sounds like he's likely to be a good player just not with the offensive upside. Still an important player for a team but I just think Hagg probably is more overall to contribute. Potentially be a good pairing in the future?

Flyotes 07-14-2013 09:42 AM

A lot of this hinges upon what you mean by "Top."

orange is better 07-14-2013 10:03 AM

I picked morin simply because I believe he has the highest ceiling. I just believe that your best prospect, logically, has to be the player who the most potential. Laughton is closer to the NHL though.

BillyShoe1721 07-14-2013 12:21 PM

Best prospect is whatever you define it to be. If you value a high ceiling more than a guy who is more likely to reach his potential, go with that. Or you could do a middle road of the two, it's whatever you perceive to be the best.

sa cyred 07-14-2013 12:39 PM

Went Laughton. Add Akeson

Broad Street Elite 07-14-2013 01:21 PM

This list looks a whole lot better than it did at this time last year. Both in terms of top end and depth. I remember getting to 5 last year and being all "Yikes"

zarley zelepukin 07-14-2013 01:46 PM

One way to look at it is to decide which player you think would have the most value in a trade. I follow rankings for baseball prospects and that's a method that seems to make sense. Prospects are usually ranked based on a combination of ceiling/floor/chance to reach ceiling. However much each of those things is valued is up to the person doing the ranking.

jd2210 07-14-2013 01:51 PM

Laughton, add akeson.

LegionOfDoom91 07-14-2013 01:57 PM

1. Laughton
2. Morin
3. Hagg
4. Gostisbehere
5. Stolarz
6. Cousins
7. Straka
8. McGinn
9. Noebels
10. Leier

I went with the middle ground model.

orange is better 07-14-2013 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by LegionOfDoom91 (Post 69200699)
1. Laughton
2. Morin
3. Hagg
4. Gostisbehere
5. Stolarz
6. Cousins
7. Straka
8. McGinn
9. Noebels
10. Leier

I went with the middle ground model.

This is essentially mine except for 2 changes

1. Morin
2. Laughton
3. Hagg
4. Gostisbehere
5. Stolarz
6. Straka
7. Cousins
8. McGinn
9. Noebels
10. Leier

While I think cousins has a better shot at making the NHL, I think that straka has the potential to be a top 6 player.

dawkins121 07-14-2013 03:46 PM

Why did Columbus let Straka go? 2nd round pedigree, seemed to look good at prospects camp. Seems like someone they would want to hold on to.

Broad Street Elite 07-14-2013 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dawkins121 (Post 69203961)
Why did Columbus let Straka go? 2nd round pedigree, seemed to look good at prospects camp. Seems like someone they would want to hold on to.

Draft player, regress, regress more, not sign.

His regression, however, did correlate with some injuries and a significant coaching change, but surprising none the less.

Pretty much the same thing with Alt.

The Couturier Effect 07-14-2013 04:07 PM

Tyrell Goulbourne :sarcasm:




I voted Laughton.

bp spec 07-14-2013 04:14 PM

Laughton

Mickey Morandini 07-14-2013 04:59 PM

I went with Laughton. I agree with the poster who said to consider the trade value of each player. That made it easier to decide for me.

sobrien 07-14-2013 07:09 PM

Went with Morin. His ceiling is highest...which in my book makes him the most untradeable. I don't know how to devise a "middle of the road" formula and then apply it to each player. Just going off ceiling.


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