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wej20 07-14-2013 07:45 AM

Penguins Re-Sign Harry 'Scrabbles' Zolnierczyk [1 year/$550,000/2-way deal]
 
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The Pittsburgh Penguins have re-signed forward Harry Zolnierczyk (ZOHL-ner-chuck) to a one-year contract, it was announced today by executive vice president and general manager Ray Shero.

Zolnierczyk's contract is a two-way deal worth $550,000 at the NHL level.

Zolnierczyk, 25, was acquired by the Penguins from Anaheim earlier this offseason. He split the 2012-13 campaign between the Anaheim and Philadelphia Flyers organizations. He played in seven NHL games with the Flyers, recording one assist and 36 penalty minutes.
Guess he'll be in the running for the 13th forward.

Ogrezilla 07-14-2013 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by wej20 (Post 69192919)
Guess he'll be in the running for the 13th forward.

If Jeffrey signs we have 13 forwards on 1-way deals, right?

wej20 07-14-2013 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Ogrezilla (Post 69192947)
If Jeffrey signs we have 13 forwards on 1-way deals, right?

If Jeffrey signs a 1-way deal then we'll have 12 on 1-way deals with Bennett and Zolnierczyk on 2-way deals.

Ogrezilla 07-14-2013 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by wej20 (Post 69192981)
If Jeffrey signs a 1-way deal then we'll have 12 on 1-way deals with Bennett and Zolnierczyk on 2-way deals.

right, forgot bennet's was 2-way. That better not mean a damn thing.

Shrimper 07-14-2013 08:03 AM

Bennett won't go down. Bylsma isn't that stupid.

SweetStache 07-14-2013 08:10 AM

Will HZ need to clear waivers to be assigned to the AHL?

wej20 07-14-2013 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SweetStache (Post 69193173)
Will HZ need to clear waivers to be assigned to the AHL?

I'm pretty sure he will, highly unlikely he gets claimed though.

Coach John McGuirk 07-14-2013 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Shrimper (Post 69193083)
Bennett won't go down. Bylsma isn't that stupid.

:laugh: Wouldn't it be nice if that actually was the case?

eXile59 07-14-2013 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Shrimper (Post 69193083)
Bennett won't go down. Bylsma isn't that stupid.

You would think that. He won't go down because at this point Bylsma won't have enough guys to send him down.

Zolnierczyk provides that grit but I'm not sure he's a NHL player. Our bottom six might end up being the worst in the league before it's all said and done.

Ogrezilla 07-14-2013 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by eXile59 (Post 69194521)
You would think that. He won't go down because at this point Bylsma won't have enough guys to send him down.

Zolnierczyk provides that grit but I'm not sure he's a NHL player. Our bottom six might end up being the worst in the league before it's all said and done.

D'Agostini - Sutter - Bennett/Jokinen
Glass - Vitale - Adams
Jeffrey/Z

Its not great but its certainly not the worst bottom 6 in the league. Cooke to D'Agostini is the only downgrade from last season's bottom 6 up until the trade deadline. The 4th line is the same and the other wing on the third line is upgraded from TK to either Bennett or Jokinen.

I'm not thrilled with the bottom 6, but we really shouldn't overreact. If the season started today we'd be one of the best teams in the league.

eXile59 07-14-2013 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ogrezilla (Post 69194601)
D'Agostini - Sutter - Bennett/Jokinen
Glass - Vitale - Adams
Jeffrey/Z

Its not great but its certainly not the worst bottom 6 in the league. Cooke to D'Agostini is the only downgrade from last season's bottom 6 up until the trade deadline. The 4th line is the same and the other wing on the third line is upgraded from TK to either Bennett or Jokinen.

I'm not thrilled with the bottom 6, but we really shouldn't overreact. If the season started today we'd be one of the best teams in the league.

That 3rd line is soff than soff. We don't have the bottom 6 players you need to win a cup. I think people forget how big of a role that Cooke, Kennedy, & Talbot played in winning that Cup.

Jokinen & D'Agostini are the definition of perimeter players. I'm just hoping by the time the playoffs start we're fielding a better bottom six.

CrosbyMalkin 07-14-2013 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by eXile59 (Post 69194521)
You would think that. He won't go down because at this point Bylsma won't have enough guys to send him down.

Zolnierczyk provides that grit but I'm not sure he's a NHL player. Our bottom six might end up being the worst in the league before it's all said and done.

Many of you have been saying this and if that is the case then it must of been last year also because the only real player we lost was Cooke from the bottom 6. Kennedy is an easy replaced part and Cooke not so much. We still have most of the guys back and instead of Cooke and Kennedy you have Jokinen and D'Agostini added to bottom 6. D'Agostini can provide what Kennedy gave the team and with a little luck maybe better. Jokinen is not going to bring the physical get under your skin game of Cooke but he has better skills and was on pace for over 20+ goals last year and the 3 years before he has atleast 46 points and as high as 65 points. Jokinen is great at faceoffs and can play the PK so he certainly is not a bad player for your 3rd line. When Jokinen played with Dupuis and Morrow I thought they were the best line on many nights. The rest of the bottom 6 is still the same with Sutter, Vitale, Adams, Glass, and Jeffrey trying to get in the mix and now Zolnierczyk fighting for that 13th spot with Jeffrey.

So all this gloom and doom about our bottom 6 seems a little overblown considering the only real loss was Cooke. If Zolnierczyk plays in our bottom 6 he will need to beat out 2 of this group to do it (Sutter, Jokinen, D'Agostini, Adams, Glass, Vitale, and Jeffrey).

When you look at the additions and subtractions from last years team that finished 10 points ahead of every team in the East it looks pretty good to me. I am not going to count the deadline players because we had the best record without them and honestly they did not make the difference and took people like Bennett and Despres out of the lineup which was a subtraction in my book. So of our pre-deadline players we lost Cooke and Kennedy and added Scuderi, D'Agostini, Jokinen, and Zolnierczyk.

Even if we look after trade deadline we lose Iggy but he is replaced by Bennett which in my opinion is a net gain going forward at this point in their career's. We lose Murray and Eaton and they are replaced by Scuderi and Despres which is also a net gain.


You can't have the best at every position. Be happy we have a great top 4 D and two of the best top 2 lines in hockey.

Kunitz-Crosby-Dupuis (one of top line in hockey
Jokninen-Malkin-Neal (one of top lines in hockey)
Bennett-Sutter-D'Agostini (this 3rd line could surprise us)
Glass, Adams, Vitale, Jeffrey, and Zolnierczyk fighting for 4th line duty (4th line duty which 3 of these can handle)

Scuderi-Letang (part of one of the best top 4's in hockey)
Martin-Orpik/Despres (part of the best top 4's in hockey)
Despres/Orpik-Bortuzzo/Dumoulin (very good 3rd pairing)
Engelland

Ogrezilla 07-14-2013 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by eXile59 (Post 69195233)
That 3rd line is soff than soff. We don't have the bottom 6 players you need to win a cup. I think people forget how big of a role that Cooke, Kennedy, & Talbot played in winning that Cup.

Jokinen & D'Agostini are the definition of perimeter players. I'm just hoping by the time the playoffs start we're fielding a better bottom six.

Like I said, I don't particularly like it. But it is nowhere close to the worst in the league.

OnMyOwn 07-14-2013 11:38 AM

I hate him....but I'd play him against the flyers and caps for ***** and giggles.

MonsterSurge 07-14-2013 12:22 PM

ScrabbleName - Vitale - Farnham

I'm planning on going to Columbus for our pre-season game and I MUST see that line.

Sidney the Kidney 07-14-2013 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Shrimper (Post 69193083)
Bennett won't go down. Bylsma isn't that stupid.

I don't know how you can be so convinced of this given his handling of the lineup this past season.

Sivek 07-14-2013 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ogrezilla (Post 69195701)
Like I said, I don't particularly like it. But it is nowhere close to the worst in the league.

It's probably the worst of any team that fancies itself a cup contender. Hard pressed to find another playoff team as bad as the current bottom-6, especially if Bennett isn't playing on the 3rd-line.

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Originally Posted by Shrimper (Post 69193083)
Bennett won't go down. Bylsma isn't that stupid.

smugbylsmagrin.jpg

BrunoPuntzJones 07-14-2013 01:21 PM

I don't mind if Bennett goes down for a spell. The Wyoming Valley is a land without heroes and Beau is a ray of sunshine for all of northeastern Pennsylvania.

Crafton 07-14-2013 02:50 PM

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Harry Zolnierczyk ‏@HarryZ87 33s
Couldn't be happier to have signed with Pittsburgh, thrilled about the oppourtunity to be a part of this great organization!
https://twitter.com/HarryZ87/status/356500714853376001

don't know about you, but that tweet was enough to win me over. :sarcasm:

Gwydyr 07-14-2013 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Shrimper (Post 69193083)
Bennett won't go down. Bylsma isn't that stupid.

Challenge accepted.
http://penguinssauce.com/wp-content/...ylsma1_330.jpg

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Originally Posted by Crafton (Post 69202293)
don't know about you, but that tweet was enough to win me over. :sarcasm:

Saying all the right things, so we invite him into our arena, unaware that he's actually a spy for Philly. I appreciate his cunning, but his flattery will get him nowhere with me. :sarcasm:

Darth Vitale 07-14-2013 03:14 PM

Our bottom 6 right now is not much different than last year.

Sutter = Sutter
D'ags ~ Kennedy
Cooke ≥ Juice on balance
Bennett >> anyone who would've played in his spot last year, if he gets a lot of 3rd line time

4th line = more Adams centering two scrubs, with Vitale getting scratched for 3 games every time he makes a mistake.

The crux is our bottom 6 pretty much sucked last year, too. No it's not the worst in the league, but it's definitely the worst among legitimate contenders and probably bottom 15 in the league overall. Chicago, LA, Boston, New York, and a few others all have deeper and more skilled bottom 6 than we have.

MonsterSurge 07-14-2013 03:45 PM

I actually wouldn't mind Scrabbles stirring some crap up.

Gwydyr 07-14-2013 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MonsterSurge (Post 69203923)
I actually wouldn't mind Scrabbles stirring some crap up.

I'd rather not employ a player for the sole purpose of taking heads off, but that's just me.

Actually, I'd think about it when we playing the Flyers. Maybe if we send Zolnierchuk after Rinaldo, the combined mass of their stupidity would create a void that wipes both players from existence. I think we'd win in that trade-off :thumbu:

Ogrezilla 07-14-2013 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MonsterSurge (Post 69203923)
I actually wouldn't mind Scrabbles stirring some crap up.

I don't believe it

MonsterSurge 07-14-2013 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ogrezilla (Post 69204269)
I don't believe it

I'm not happy about having him, sooo...I would have rather had Lapierre.


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