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RedWingsForPresident 07-18-2013 11:31 AM

Worst goalie during the playoff streak?
 
Who do you guys think has been our worst starting goalie since the playoff streak has been going?

Not in terms of skill, but just wasn't your favorite or that good for Detroit

crashman 07-18-2013 11:35 AM

I think Manny runs away with this one. That dude completely crumbled under pressure.

mindfly 07-18-2013 11:39 AM

Osgood was lucky to play behind such great teams.

Flowah 07-18-2013 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mindfly (Post 69344731)
Osgood was lucky to play behind such great teams.

No way, he carried his weight in 2008 and 2009.

RedWingsForPresident 07-18-2013 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mindfly (Post 69344731)
Osgood was lucky to play behind such great teams.

Osgood is the reason we won the 2008 Stanley Cup. (Exception Zetterberg)

RedWingsNow* 07-18-2013 11:51 AM

Legace.
For awhile, it was Osgood. Probably my least favorite Red Wing,
But he cleaned up his act and played well his second time here.

RedWingsNow* 07-18-2013 11:59 AM

Cujo was hurt is first year here and had a pretty bad series when the Ducks swept us, despite good numbers.
But IMO, Cujo was unbelievably good his second time around, which is pretty incredible when you consider the BS the Red Wings put him through.
Cujo had like a 1.40 goals against and a .940 save percentage or something, but the Wings offense was terrible. They had a dozen players 33 or older, and looked slow and disinterested. And Robert Lang? He was no Sergei Fedorov.


The credibility of the Red Wings as a "classy organization" was stretched by the way they handled Cujo.

mindfly 07-18-2013 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Flowah (Post 69345023)
No way, he carried his weight in 2008 and 2009.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedWingsForPresident (Post 69345115)
Osgood is the reason we won the 2008 Stanley Cup. (Exception Zetterberg)

How many shots against did he get in the games...20...25? And from which angles and distance................................ :laugh:

yave1964 07-18-2013 12:57 PM

IMHO Essensa was the worst of the worst that I ever saw wearing the winged wheel in 40 plus years watching nearly every Wings game. IMHO the decision to deal for this choke artist sat us back a couple of years. I know he is not on the list but he deserves to be on any worst goalie list. He made Larry Lozinski and Ron Low look like Vezina candidates.

Ricelund 07-18-2013 12:58 PM

Legace was awful. They're lucky he turned down an extension mid-season.

Lugaid 07-18-2013 01:11 PM

Has to be Legace for me. Cujo was very poor as well, but Legace just wasn't as good as the players in front of him.

RedWingsForPresident 07-18-2013 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by mindfly (Post 69348025)
How many shots against did he get in the games...20...25? And from which angles and distance................................ :laugh:

In 18 games started he went 14-4, .930 SVV and 1.55 GAA. He had an average of 22.5 shots a game. 20-25 shots is the norm I'd say in a given game.

We weren't winning the Cup with Hasek in net that playoffs, that's for sure

FlashyG 07-18-2013 01:31 PM

maybe some of you don't remember Cheveldae that much, but he made Legace look like an all-star.

jaster 07-18-2013 01:32 PM

This isn't even remotely close in my mind. It's Legace in a runaway. Cheveldae was bad, but nothing like Legace, not in terms of performance nor crumbling under pressure. Legace was essentially kicked off the team by his own teammates.

crashman 07-18-2013 01:44 PM

I only remember Cheveldae from the NHL videogames. So yeah, worst goalie ever, I could always score on him with a wraparound. Every. Single. Time.

Still sticking with Manny.

Johnz96* 07-18-2013 02:02 PM

Essensa.
He single-handidly lost that 94 playoff series to the Sharks. It was like boys against men out there except the men had a boy in net and the boys had a man in net.
It has to be the worst playoff performance by a NHL goalie I have ever seen.
Osgood is one of the best playoff goalies ever. He had to be a lot better in 08 (without Vladdy) than Vernon (with Vladdy) was the year after Vernon won the Conn Smythe (the Wings just steamrolled everyone that year)

Heaton 07-18-2013 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnz96 (Post 69351105)
Essensa.
He single-handidly lost that 94 playoff series to the Sharks. It was like boys against men out there except the men had a boy in net and the boys had a man in net.
It has to be the worst playoff performance by a NHL goalie I have ever seen.
Osgood is one of the best playoff goalies ever. He had to be a lot better in 08 (without Vladdy) than Vernon (with Vladdy) was the year after Vernon won the Conn Smythe (the Wings just steamrolled everyone that year)

I don't remember '94 really, was Essensa benched eventually paving the way for Osgood? Because I know Osgood was in net for the series clinching goal.

Cyborg Yzerman 07-18-2013 02:25 PM

Poor Manny, dude really did crumble under pressure. I remember the story about him almost killing himself. Made me really feel for him. :(

SaCkaveli20 07-18-2013 02:31 PM

2.08 .917
1.39 .939

Definitely deserves to have 15 votes.

Johnz96* 07-18-2013 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Heaton (Post 69352091)
I don't remember '94 really, was Essensa benched eventually paving the way for Osgood? Because I know Osgood was in net for the series clinching goal.

Essensa was their big acquisition that year, he was supposed to finally give us a goalie that we could compete in the playoffs with and Osgood was a rookie.
He was benched after the first game of the series after a terrible game. Osgood came in won the next 2 and then he screwed up playing the puck in the 4th for the Shark's GWG and Essensa got the start in the 6th and stunk up the joint. The GWG goal in that came was a weak slap shot glove side from the point by a rookie Czech defenseman (name escapes me now), that would have been an easy save for any peewee goalie.

RedWingsNow* 07-18-2013 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnz96 (Post 69351105)
Essensa.
He single-handidly lost that 94 playoff series to the Sharks. It was like boys against men out there except the men had a boy in net and the boys had a man in net.
It has to be the worst playoff performance by a NHL goalie I have ever seen.
Osgood is one of the best playoff goalies ever. He had to be a lot better in 08 (without Vladdy) than Vernon (with Vladdy) was the year after Vernon won the Conn Smythe (the Wings just steamrolled everyone that year)

Ozzie is not one of the best playoff goalies ever.

Not sure if you were around to actually watch the 90s, John, but Ozzie's rep was a good regular season goalie who wasn't very good in the playoffs.

And it was a well earned rep.

RedWingsNow* 07-18-2013 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnz96 (Post 69352957)
Essensa was their big acquisition that year, he was supposed to finally give us a goalie that we could compete in the playoffs with and Osgood was a rookie.
He was benched after the first game of the series after a terrible game. Osgood came in won the next 2 and then he screwed up playing the puck in the 4th for the Shark's GWG and Essensa got the start in the 6th and stunk up the joint. The GWG goal in that came was a weak slap shot glove side from the point by a rookie Czech defenseman (name escapes me now), that would have been an easy save for any peewee goalie.

Dude... are you going from memory? Or a very inaccurate history book?

Brick Top 07-18-2013 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by crashman (Post 69350295)
I only remember Cheveldae from the NHL videogames. So yeah, worst goalie ever, I could always score on him with a wraparound. Every. Single. Time.

Still sticking with Manny.

:laugh: Come on, you can't really hold video game performances against a goalie, especially from the EA Sports NHL games from the early/mid '90's... the wraparound worked on every goalie every time in a few of those games, and then you had the S-move in the offensive zone to get the goalie moving and shoot against the grain. Again, goal every time.

Not saying that Chevaldae was ever the second coming of Tretiak or anything, but even Trets would have been lit up in those games. And while we're at it, I would have loved to make Mikhailov's head bleed for superfan #13 in the CCCP jersey :naughty:

Voted for Legace. Always liked his mask, not such a big fan of seeing him pick up anything more than spot duty as the backup.

we like our team 07-18-2013 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SaCkaveli20 (Post 69352687)
2.08 .917
1.39 .939

Definitely deserves to have 6 votes.

joseph will always be unfairly dumped on sadly

Fowler524 07-18-2013 02:53 PM

While Cheveldae was bad, my vote goes to Manny.


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