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Damaged Goods 07-24-2013 08:08 PM

2014 UFA Goalie Crop
 
Because it's never too early to have this conversation. Here are 2014's UFA eligibles:

Name - 2014 age - SV% since 2010

Henrik Lundqvist - 32 - .926
Ryan Miller - 34 - .916
Jonas Hiller - 32 - .915
Jaroslav Halak - 29 - .915
Devan Dubnyk - 28 - .917
Corey Crawford - 29 - 913
Brian Eliott - 29 - .910

Are you hoping or expecting any of these goalies make it to free agency so that the Flyers can take a run at them (Hank aside) ?

Edit: Could a mod add Luongo to the poll? I guess there's still a reasonable chance he gets bought out next summer.

Roberto Luongo - 35 - .922

Flyerss 07-24-2013 08:12 PM

remove Lundqvist and Crawford and Eliott/Halak and i have some doubt about Hiller

Beef Invictus 07-24-2013 08:19 PM

I've got Elliot/Halak...whichever one and Miller. Voted both because it might be a tossup, but Halak seems more likely. There's been so much smoke around Miller I wouldn't be surprised either.

LegionOfDoom91 07-24-2013 08:22 PM

I wouldn't mind Dubnyk he's pretty underrated on these boards for some reason.

Beef Invictus 07-24-2013 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegionOfDoom91 (Post 69581309)
I wouldn't mind Dubnyk he's pretty underrated on these boards for some reason.

Agreed. I saw a decent amount of him last year and he performed really damned well considering the "defense" played in front of him.

Maybe people dislike his stupid name.

Garbage Goal 07-24-2013 08:34 PM

Meant to vote Miller too, but Hiller, Miller, Dubnyk, Elliott. I see Fasth taking over very easily in Anaheim and Buffalo's already down on Miller with Enroth primed to take over (and IIRC Hackett is there now too), for some reason people don't really recognize Dubnyk as a good starter despite his good enough numbers on an annually horrible team so I think he'll continue to be underrated, and Elliott has the younger Jake Allen behind him and the more talented Halak next to him. One of the three is gone most likely and it's most likely Elliott.

LegionOfDoom91 07-25-2013 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beef Invictus (Post 69581583)
Agreed. I saw a decent amount of him last year and he performed really damned well considering the "defense" played in front of him.

Maybe people dislike his stupid name.

My guess is that being employed by the biggest punch line in the NHL the last few years doesn't help much.

dawkins121 07-25-2013 07:06 AM

Lundqvist is obviously a generational talent but the contract the Rangers are going to have to give him is going to sting. Like 8 years, 68 mill or something for a 31 year old.

DrinkFightFlyers 07-25-2013 07:14 AM

I'd love Ryan Miller, but I think he's going to be getting another big time deal and I don't think the Flyers should get involved with that type of deal with a guy his age. If he was still in his 20s I'd be cool with a five or six year deal for Miller (which is what I think he's going to get), but at 33 after all the BS Flyers have gone through with goalies recently (historically), I wouldn't want to sign him for that long. Now, if he signs a three year deal or something, I'd be all about it.

RJ8812* 07-25-2013 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dawkins121 (Post 69592119)
Lundqvist is obviously a generational talent but the contract the Rangers are going to have to give him is going to sting. Like 8 years, 68 mill or something for a 31 year old.

no he's not

Lundqvist is a good goalie, but wow is he ever overrated on these boards.

The guy has the biggest knack for letting in soft goals at the worst time in the playoffs

Curufinwe 07-25-2013 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beef Invictus (Post 69581583)
Agreed. I saw a decent amount of him last year and he performed really damned well considering the "defense" played in front of him.

Maybe people dislike his stupid name.

I wish we had a goalie last year who could save .920 of the shots he faced behind a bad defensive team.

Hiesenberg 07-25-2013 07:56 AM

I think we should all hope Mason finally "gets it" and can be our franchise goalie for the next 5-7 years.

dingbathero 07-25-2013 07:56 AM

I'm going to say one of our goalies performs as good/out performs 4 of these listed this year.

Prongo 07-25-2013 08:05 AM

Watching the Rangers and seeing how they handle the Lundy situation. With the cap going up and this teams major need always goaltending, he is one player I wouldn't mind giving an 8 year deal to. I know there is little chance he makes it to UFA, but there is always a chance. I bet he is waiting to see how the team plays out this year before re-signing with them.

My favorite of that group is Hiller besides Lundy. Miller is a great goalie, but is getting up in age, plus will cost more. I think Hiller could be signed for "cheaper" than Miller. There is no way I would touch Eliot with a ten foot pole and Halak has injury problems recently(I know Hiller has to, but his was vertigo)

I don't really think Edmonton can let Dubs walk unless they want Miller, he is rumored to want to go closer to the west coast for his wife. If he does walk, I wouldn't mind looking into that as well though. He is one of the younger goalies that would be available.

Crawford probably is one of the closer things to a sure to be re-signed.

BernieParent 07-25-2013 08:23 AM

I'm pretty meh on this list, as some (Lundqvist, Crawford) are poised for big paydays and I expect others (Miller, Elliott, Halak) to regress significantly over the next couple of years. Plus, Halak and Hiller have notable medical histories, like Prongo pointed out.

The whole Bryzgalov situation has soured my desire for locking up a goaltender long-term, and I am coming to accept that the Flyers' best hope is to get lucky with having a goaltender who turns in a magical season on the way to a Cup.

Can Leighton be added to the UFA list? That way, it would include Miller, Hiller and filler.

TheCerebral1 07-25-2013 09:21 AM

Honestly, it's time to stop the UFA goalie route for goaltending in Philadelphia. They need to develop Stolarz or develop whomever they decide is the future of the position and stick to a plan. Ryan Miller is the most likely fit on this list. Lundqvist and Crawford will likely be locked up eventually.

dawkins121 07-25-2013 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RJ8812 (Post 69592687)
no he's not

Lundqvist is a good goalie, but wow is he ever overrated on these boards.

The guy has the biggest knack for letting in soft goals at the worst time in the playoffs

You serious? Career .920 sv% in the playoffs. 0.931 in 20 games a couple years ago and 0.934 in 10 games last year. He pretty much beat the Capitals by himself. If he's letting in softies then he must be keeping out all of the tough ones...

Even if you ignore his great stats just watching him play you can tell he's elite. Always in the correct position, always anticipating the offense, makes difficult saves seem routine. He's the best goalie of the last 5 years and I don't think it's particularly close.

Flyerfan4life 07-25-2013 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dawkins121 (Post 69594807)
You serious? Career .920 sv% in the playoffs. 0.931 in 20 games a couple years ago and 0.934 in 10 games last year. He pretty much beat the Capitals by himself. If he's letting in softies then he must be keeping out all of the tough ones...

Even if you ignore his great stats just watching him play you can tell he's elite. Always in the correct position, always anticipating the offense, makes difficult saves seem routine. He's the best goalie of the last 5 years and I don't think it's particularly close.

dont bother...

some guys simply wont accept that he is a elite goalie..

:shakehead

without King Henrik the NYR are basicly nothing...

SolidSnakeUS 07-25-2013 10:11 AM

For those UFAs, if we could get them cheap enough and not too long, I'd go for Miller or Hiller. No way do we get Lundy. No ****ing way (I'd love him, but I doubt they'd let him go).

Hiesenberg 07-25-2013 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCerebral1 (Post 69594727)
Honestly, it's time to stop the UFA goalie route for goaltending in Philadelphia. They need to develop Stolarz or develop whomever they decide is the future of the position and stick to a plan. Ryan Miller is the most likely fit on this list. Lundqvist and Crawford will likely be locked up eventually.

Miller will want 5 years, will it take 5 years to get Stolarz in here?

FlyersFan61290 07-25-2013 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dawkins121 (Post 69594807)
You serious? Career .920 sv% in the playoffs. 0.931 in 20 games a couple years ago and 0.934 in 10 games last year. He pretty much beat the Capitals by himself. If he's letting in softies then he must be keeping out all of the tough ones...

Even if you ignore his great stats just watching him play you can tell he's elite. Always in the correct position, always anticipating the offense, makes difficult saves seem routine. He's the best goalie of the last 5 years and I don't think it's particularly close.

Agreed, he's the best goalie to enter the league in the past 10 years.

Beef Invictus 07-25-2013 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curufinwe (Post 69592767)
I wish we had a goalie last year who could save .920 of the shots he faced behind a bad defensive team.

Yeah. People think the Flyers are bad on defense? Holy crap, those people would have an embolism if we played like Edmonton. Yet Dubnyk played respectably. I don't think he's gotten nearly as much credit as he deserves.

ILoveStephanieBrown 07-25-2013 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheCerebral1 (Post 69594727)
Honestly, it's time to stop the UFA goalie route for goaltending in Philadelphia. They need to develop Stolarz or develop whomever they decide is the future of the position and stick to a plan. Ryan Miller is the most likely fit on this list. Lundqvist and Crawford will likely be locked up eventually.

100 % agree.

laundryman 07-25-2013 12:31 PM

Halak, Elliot and Miller, although I expect Buffalo to trade Miller so they at least get something for him.

I think Anaheim re-signs Hiller to a 1 or 2 year deal depending on how ready Gibson is

SolidSnakeUS 07-25-2013 12:33 PM

Honestly, I'd say after this year, sign Hiller (would probably be cheaper than Miller) for 2 years, and for the 2nd year or after that, have Stolarz either being the back up or the starter.


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