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Nuke 07-25-2013 09:35 AM

Buffalo - St. Louis
 
To St. Louis:

- Thomas Vanek (50% Salary)
- Steve Ott


To Buffalo:

- T. J. Oshie
- Vladimir Tarasenko
- 2014 1st

TorstenFrings 07-25-2013 09:39 AM

I get that Vanek at half salary is a big deal and all, but this seems pretty bad for St. Louis.

Anderson55 07-25-2013 09:40 AM

Terrible for STL, especially with the 1st added

Nuke 07-25-2013 09:40 AM

I think the Blues are a significantly better team after this trade.

TOGuy14 07-25-2013 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nuke (Post 69593599)
To St. Louis:

- Thomas Vanek (50% Salary)
- Steve Ott


To Buffalo:

- T. J. Oshie
- Vladimir Tarasenko
- 2014 1st

Value might be there I guess, but it would be a terribly shortsighted move by St. Louis to do this kind of deal.

Nuke 07-25-2013 09:47 AM

I'm fine adding a 2nd Round pick to the Buffalo package also.

Jaromir Jagrbombs 07-25-2013 09:48 AM

Pretty bad for only 1 year of Vanek. Would have to be some sort of extension in place beforehand. Even then I doubt STL would do it.

Red08 07-25-2013 09:49 AM

No thanks. I thought it was bad before I saw the 1st.

Jame 07-25-2013 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nuke (Post 69593599)
To St. Louis:

- Thomas Vanek (50% Salary)
- Steve Ott


To Buffalo:

- T. J. Oshie
- Vladimir Tarasenko
- 2014 1st

too much from St Louis for 2 rentals

Make it simple

Vanek(50%) for Oshie (you can tack on some quantity here because we all know HF loves quantity)

Nuke 07-25-2013 09:56 AM

Tarasenko and the 1st is what I'd want back if we simplified the deal.

jarmoismyhero 07-25-2013 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nuke (Post 69594087)
Tarasenko and the 1st is what I'd want back if we simplified the deal.

Which the Blues would never do for one year of Vanek.

bleedblue1223 07-25-2013 10:04 AM

I don't know how many times we have to say no to these deals. I don't even know why they are so popular.

zachws6 07-25-2013 10:11 AM

Value is probably close, but we don't need an edgy guy like Ott to help us, our team can handle itself just fine.
I need to give Tarasenko 2 full seasons before ever considering letting him go.
Oshie is Oshie, he would make every team a better product on the ice.

Falco Lombardi 07-25-2013 10:34 AM

Tarasenko and a 1st for one year of Vanek? No way.

Zip15 07-25-2013 10:35 AM

That's a bad deal for St. Louis.

SirPaste 07-25-2013 10:49 AM

No thanks from the Blues

SabresFan26 07-25-2013 11:39 AM

As a Sabres fan I would do

Tarasenko and a conditional 2nd if vanek resigns for Vanek

Jame 07-25-2013 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nuke (Post 69594087)
Tarasenko and the 1st is what I'd want back if we simplified the deal.

elite prospects dont get traded for rentals...

try being more realistic

alpine4life 07-25-2013 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JPurp26 (Post 69596971)
As a Sabres fan I would do

Tarasenko and a conditional 2nd if vanek resigns for Vanek

That sounds about right

2 Minute Minor 07-25-2013 11:45 AM

I think something around Vanek with salary withheld is intriguing, but the Blues probably won't include Tarasenko, and they haven't had a 1st round pick 2 of the last 3 years...so that's a particularly painful price. Its not inconceivable that they could be getting that kind of production from Tarasenko in a year or two.

Frenzy1 07-25-2013 11:55 AM

SALARY CAP.

Blues wouldn't be able to resign Vanek next season. He would make huge $$$ on the UFA market, something the Blues wouldn't be able to match.

And while he is better the Tarasenko now and maybe in the next year or two, but that is a maybe, VT is on a entry level deal. And that is a huge deal.

Finally, Vanek would be a 1 year luxury that isn't needed since we resigned Stewart for a contract that is 2 years and about 2+++ million cheaper. And while Vanek is better then Stewart, he isn't 2 million and 1 year better.

I think Vanek can be moved at the deadline for a late first rounder and a couple of mid level prospects (same a Jaybo).

HooliganX2 07-25-2013 12:09 PM

No interest in Ott. I wouldn't trade one single piece of that package for Vanek. It just doesn't make sense for St Louis. Buffalo should find another team to trade with if that is the return they want as they will not be getting it from the Blues.

Vladys Gumption 07-25-2013 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nuke (Post 69593599)
To St. Louis:

- Thomas Vanek (50% Salary)
- Steve Ott


To Buffalo:

- T. J. Oshie
- Vladimir Tarasenko
- 2014 1st

Easy no from St. Louis.

Havok89 07-25-2013 01:56 PM

Vanek (50%) + Ott for Tarasenko + cap dump?

bleedblue1223 07-25-2013 01:58 PM

We aren't trading Tarasenko...


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