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jazzykat 07-29-2013 07:48 AM

Etiquette to falling?
 
I fall about 1-3 times per practice/game/shinny etc. Sometimes I'm holding onto my stick as my arms fly up in the air. This is obviously dangerous (but hockey isn't necessarily the safest sport). Is there some type of etiquette where you let go of your stick instead of flailing with it too?

Ozz 07-29-2013 07:52 AM

Hold onto your stick :) If it goes flying anyway that's the way it goes, but you want to do your best to not create additional hazards out there.

goonx 07-29-2013 08:03 AM

I feel you should just fall naturally. I feel if you worry about falling in a certain way, you might get hurt more easily. your hands will come up to break the fall and if you're worried about dropping the stick, one of them might be tied up.

If you fall holding a stick, great. if you drop it, doesn't matter. Ofcourse, if you fall and drop the stick, you're going to spend that extra 1-2 second picking it up. Since you're not playing a top-tier game, it doesn't really matter.

I would just avoid falling backwards, that's the most dangerous way. Unfortunately if you fall and the stick hits someone, it's not intentional and people shouldn't get mad at you.

JoeCool16 07-29-2013 10:33 AM

Keep in that hockey stance... Knees bent, back straight, stick on the ice! You won't have as far to go when you fall and as a result there won't be any flailage!

American in Paris 07-30-2013 03:01 AM

I you feel yourself going down, take your bottom hand off the stick and use both of your hands to brace yourself as you fall rather than flailing them up in the air.

shoeshine boy 07-30-2013 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by American in Paris (Post 69754323)
I you feel yourself going down, take your bottom hand off the stick and use both of your hands to brace yourself as you fall rather than flailing them up in the air.

I would think that using your hands to brace yourself would be a good way to break your wrist.

redbranch 07-30-2013 07:33 AM

I've watched 3 people in my beginner classes break their wrists by putting their hands out. Drop to your knees if possible

jazzykat 07-30-2013 07:40 AM

If I fall forward I'll either fall on my knees and brace my upper body with my right hand (wrist straight, whole arm perpendicular to the ice) or catch myself on a forearm.

Theoretically I should never fall backwards while playing hockey and I know I need to work on my fundamentals.

Thanks for all the responses.

Jarick 07-30-2013 09:11 AM

As you get better you learn to fall better. One drill we did a ton as kids was to skate, then fall/slide, then get up. Looks dumb, works great.

Don't stick your hands out to catch yourself. Lots of potential for wrist injuries. Large mass + high speed + hard ice + weak joint.

The faster you're moving, the less damage you seem to do. Then you're more sliding than falling straight down. Seems to disperse the impact.

Also, good elbow pads and pants are key. If I do fall and land on my elbow or hip, there's a ton of padding and protection.

JoeCool16 07-30-2013 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Jarick (Post 69758039)
The faster you're moving, the less damage you seem to do. Then you're more sliding than falling straight down. Seems to disperse the impact.

The less damage you do until the boards show up...

Fanned On It 07-31-2013 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by redbranch (Post 69755977)
I've watched 3 people in my beginner classes break their wrists by putting their hands out. Drop to your knees if possible

Yea but if you're falling in a way that your knees aren't able to break your fall then your natural reaction is going to be to break the fall with your hands/arms. I don't fall nearly as much as I used to (been playing for about 2.5 years now) so it's hard to think of what I do when I fall. Just try not to table yourself if you're falling backwards. That can be painful and lead to a head injury. I feel like I use my upper arms/shoulders to break forward falls.

CGNY87 07-31-2013 07:50 AM

Usually the falls happen so fast your instinct kicks in and you cant really decide how to fall. However, if you feel like you are going to fall try to fall your knees. That is one of the most protected areas (if you are wearing shin guards) and its the fastest position to get back on your feet and into the play. If you fall all the way down try and land on your knees and forearms. Elbow pads should cushion the fall and you wont break your wrist.

For falling backwards just land on your butt and hope the padding is enough. I know it is naturual instinct but becareful of landing on your elbows when falling backwards. I have seen a few people fracture their elbow by landing with most of their weight on the elbow. The best advice for falling backwards is, if you feel like your are going to fall when going backwards, sit down. This keeps you from smacking your head on the ice.


The worst is landing flat on your chest or back. It will hurt and knock the wind out of you. Also avoid falling into the boards. Major injuries happen then. Most people are nervous when skating and stay near the boards. Its actually safer away from the boards. Every major injury I have seen has been someone falling and crashing into the boards

Jarick 07-31-2013 12:07 PM

Also there's heads up hockey, which has some safety tips.

kr580 08-01-2013 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by shoeshine boy (Post 69755809)
I would think that using your hands to brace yourself would be a good way to break your wrist.

Hyper extended my wrist this way and I was in constant pain for over 18 months. Now I just use my ass or hips. There's natural cushion there for a reason. For the most part my falls are blown tires which end up in baseball slides. No need to brace anything.

As for places to fall: Knees, hips, elbows. They all have padding if you're suited up correctly and will absorb impact a lot better than anything else. Best to take things at an angle and not a straight down impact with the ice if at all possible. If anything try to hit these first so they take most of the force.

Ethereal Whisper 08-01-2013 09:15 AM

Elbows are a good impact point when playing hockey due to your padding. Goes against human instinct, but don't worry too much about it, like a previous poster said if you're worried about falling a certain way as you fall you'll probably end up hurting yourself even more.

As for etiquette, the only etiquette I use is when I get back up I say, "No one saw that!" and keep skating.

goonx 08-01-2013 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by shoeshine boy (Post 69755809)
I would think that using your hands to brace yourself would be a good way to break your wrist.

i'm pretty sure most ppl rather put their hands out/arms out to break a fall than landing on their shoulder or face....

There are better places to land, i.e. your side, ass but when you're falling face first, there's only your face or your hands/arms.

sxHarr05 08-01-2013 11:57 AM

I only know one way to fall-hard and fast. :D

Usually if I feel it coming I just lose all pretense of being able to stop it.

Sometimes I make snow angels.

TickleMeYandle 08-01-2013 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tricia McMillan (Post 69828967)

As for etiquette, the only etiquette I use is when I get back up I say, "No one saw that!" and keep skating.


We all saw that. And next time, you and your stick are going to be on opposing teams!

CarvinSigX 08-01-2013 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeCool16 (Post 69725137)
Keep in that hockey stance... Knees bent, back straight, stick on the ice! You won't have as far to go when you fall and as a result there won't be any flailage!

Gonna have to agree. Seems like people fall from being stiff-legged.

Danglous 08-01-2013 05:48 PM

I'd like to know the secrets to springing right back up to the ice after falling (while moving). I can do it sometimes but other times I cant get a grip and go spinning into the wall or in a straight line 20 feet away from the play until I stop. So embarrassing. I see Claude Giroux and other guys in the NHL popping right back up effortlessly and I wonder what they were taught that I wasnt.

ZachaAttackas 08-01-2013 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Danglous (Post 69843521)
I'd like to know the secrets to springing right back up to the ice after falling (while moving). I can do it sometimes but other times I cant get a grip and go spinning into the wall or in a straight line 20 feet away from the play until I stop. So embarrassing. I see Claude Giroux and other guys in the NHL popping right back up effortlessly and I wonder what they were taught that I wasnt.

Experience. It's the same as hitting someone and not falling down: Experience and practice. And learning ho to use your edges effectively.

ahump90 08-02-2013 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by shoeshine boy (Post 69755809)
I would think that using your hands to brace yourself would be a good way to break your wrist.

yes seriously, don't listen to that guys advice

shoeshine boy 08-02-2013 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by goonx (Post 69830959)
i'm pretty sure most ppl rather put their hands out/arms out to break a fall than landing on their shoulder or face....

There are better places to land, i.e. your side, ass but when you're falling face first, there's only your face or your hands/arms.


yeah but very rarely in hockey do you fall directly in front of you. even so it's better to get your forearms out in front of you than to actually try to break your fall with your hands.

mikitas donut 08-03-2013 03:53 AM

I would never fall on my ass if I could help it. I bruised my tail bone badly the other day and it hurts no matter what I do. And I have awesome pants, so I likely woulda broken it in lesser pants.

Ethereal Whisper 08-03-2013 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Clownquestion (Post 69839783)
We all saw that. And next time, you and your stick are going to be on opposing teams!

No one saw a thing, and my stick has a mind of its own, so don't blame it for that either.

Remind me to not buy sticks from Oceanside's pro shop again.


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