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PezRadar 08-06-2013 07:22 AM

First set of skates.. Some questions
 
Hey guys

Decided I was going to try out hockey here locally and wanted to ask a few questions about skates.

Was at the gear shop yesterday and was trying on a few pairs of skates. The guy helping me measured my foot (US 10.5 shoe) but kept handing me 7.5 D Bauers. One foot feels pretty good and snug.. No real pain. The other felt a bit of pressure to the side of my big toe where the ball is below the big toe.

After getting home, I'm seeing that a few online sites show Bauer size charts and how I should probably be wearing a 9 instead? The 7.5 on the left foot felt great though. Does this just vary heavily? The skate even had a tag saying US shoe 9.

I guess I don't know the exact feeling I'm supposed to have with these and either the guy helping me at the Pro shop was totally clueless or maybe I am?

Any notes or tips?


EDIT - Doh.. Just read the sticky like a moron. Ignore :P

PlamsUnlimited 08-06-2013 07:26 AM

I know that feel... Size 15 4E shoe... My feet are enormous.

forbs02 08-06-2013 10:10 AM

Buy skates by fit, not by the size on the tag. Ideally a hockey skate should fit snug, your toe feathering the toe cap when you stand in them. When you bend your knees your toe should pull off the cap. A bit of pressure on the sides is ok. It should come out when the skate is baked. If it doesn't it is an easy fix with a punch. If the skate feels comfortable in the arch, is snug without pain, and your heel doesn't lift your are in a skate that fits. You can make a skate bigger, but you can't make a skate smaller, so don't buy a skate that is too big for you. It will negatively effect your skating and will tear up your feet.

AIREAYE 08-06-2013 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by PezRadar (Post 69966509)
Hey guys

Decided I was going to try out hockey here locally and wanted to ask a few questions about skates.

Was at the gear shop yesterday and was trying on a few pairs of skates. The guy helping me measured my foot (US 10.5 shoe) but kept handing me 7.5 D Bauers. One foot feels pretty good and snug.. No real pain. The other felt a bit of pressure to the side of my big toe where the ball is below the big toe.

After getting home, I'm seeing that a few online sites show Bauer size charts and how I should probably be wearing a 9 instead? The 7.5 on the left foot felt great though. Does this just vary heavily? The skate even had a tag saying US shoe 9.

I guess I don't know the exact feeling I'm supposed to have with these and either the guy helping me at the Pro shop was totally clueless or maybe I am?

Any notes or tips?


EDIT - Doh.. Just read the sticky like a moron. Ignore :P

Hehe, if you have any more questions, post them on there :)

Ozz 08-06-2013 11:21 AM

Skates are weird almost no matter what you do, unfortunately. Same brand/different trim throughout the years can even vary.

Back in the day I had a size 12 Bauer boot, nowadays the Bauer I fit into is an 11 (same as my CCMs). By comparison, I have Alkali and RBK inlines and they're both a 10. I don't think my feet shrank :confused:

PezRadar 08-06-2013 04:21 PM

Thanks guys.

I put them on this morning and just wore them under my desk for about 30 mins. There doesn't appear to be much pain and I can stand and feel pressure on the side a bit. Not feeling much of the shift of my heels moving back when I bend down but my toes don't feel too crunched.

In fact.. i can freely wiggle my toes in both so I may be okay.

I also was a bit stupid and went for more of an intermediate skate as opposed to a beginner one.. Vapor X90's Oh well ..!

AIREAYE 08-06-2013 08:33 PM

X90s are a top end skate and you're a beginner? Bad move.

PezRadar 08-06-2013 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AIREAYE (Post 69987167)
X90s are a top end skate and you're a beginner? Bad move.

Yeah.. :\

Oh well.. If it becomes terrible after a few skates... I can always just grab a pair of some cheaper skates.

AIREAYE 08-06-2013 09:35 PM

No chance for a return/exchange?

PezRadar 08-06-2013 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by AIREAYE (Post 69989045)
No chance for a return/exchange?

doubtful since they sharpened them.

AIREAYE 08-06-2013 11:59 PM

You can always ask.

JoeCool16 08-07-2013 12:45 AM

Why is that a bad move? I'm honestly curious.

mikitas donut 08-07-2013 03:29 AM

I wear 10.5 running shoes and wear 7.5 Bauer Vapor X5.0s.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeCool16 (Post 69993685)
Why is that a bad move? I'm honestly curious.

Top end skates are really stiff and beginners won't be able to flex them well. Very unforgiving.

jorbjorb 08-07-2013 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by PezRadar (Post 69989107)
doubtful since they sharpened them.

you can return them.

getting x90s is sweet if you can afford them. you can use those for many years to come

AIREAYE 08-07-2013 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mikitas donut (Post 69995723)
I wear 10.5 running shoes and wear 7.5 Bauer Vapor X5.0s.



Top end skates are really stiff and beginners won't be able to flex them well. Very unforgiving.

Bingo. As a beginner still learning edge control and how to use your edges, you want to be able to dictate where your skates should be. Through that flexibility, you learn through trial and error and through muscle memory. The stiffness of higher end and even mid end boots act as a crutch at that level, in that the boot dictates where you are because they are so unforgiving.

JoeCool16 08-07-2013 09:34 AM

Ahh. Thanks for the info!

soldier0829 08-07-2013 09:53 AM

OP - I think I had the same issue as you. I felt some pressure near the ball of my foot. I removed the footbeds and cut the little "wings" off the front and sides. The extra room made a big difference. Not sure if the x90 footbeds have those wings but worth mentioning I guess.

As for fit, I am a 9.5 shoe and I take a Bauer 6.5.

PezRadar 08-07-2013 11:09 AM

Thanks for the tips!

So keeping the X90's would be pretty bad for my initial use?

I'm contemplating if I should just keep them and grab another pair or just go forward and use them.

Shaun Bisson 08-07-2013 11:20 AM

Did they heat shape them for your feet? elite skates are stiff, but they can be worked in. If you like them, I say keep going on them.

Shaun Bisson 08-07-2013 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JagrsMullet (Post 70001329)
If you're a beginner skating once or twice a week it's going to take a very very very long time to break them in.

True. I guess I've never had an issue like that this one either. It is possible though. Wear them as much as possible would be the best bet. Even around the house.

PezRadar 08-07-2013 11:49 AM

i haven't baked them yet. I was planning on doing so before I skated this weekend.

But since you guys are recommending returning.. I may do so since it may be really difficult to learn on them.

PezRadar 08-09-2013 04:31 PM

Going to power through and learn on the X90's

Here. We. Go.

ArcataShark 08-09-2013 06:48 PM

You go boy :yo:

AIREAYE 08-09-2013 08:09 PM

I would suggest learning while having the top eyelet undone, which would give you the flexibility you need to learn proper posture.

PezRadar 08-11-2013 12:38 AM

Skated in them for the first time today. Wobbly as hell the first time I got on the ice but got much better. Felt a ton of pressure and a bit of pain around the sides of my big toe. I got the skates baked after the skate.

I did get 1 blister on the side of my big toe on my left foot which felt fine during initial fitting. Right foot is totally fine which was odd since that was hurting me originally.


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