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habster 08-14-2013 01:34 AM

Who did the Habs want with pick #19 at the draft?
 
Who did the Habs had on their list at number 19 with the columbus pick?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccKU...e_gdata_player

Roulin 08-14-2013 01:37 AM

I remember reading something about Bergevin looking upset when Toronto took Gauthier, maybe it was him? :dunno:

Ezpz 08-14-2013 02:33 AM

Burakovsky?

25get 08-14-2013 04:39 AM

You can bet many names.
Gauthier seems like a good guess but Rychel could be a good guess as well.

We will know in time. Seems they also wanted Samual Morin.
I remember during the draft the trade with Vancouver.
Something happened between picks 8 and 10.
Maybe they were looking for Morin or Horvat.

We may know more in the future but there was quite a commotion among Habs management at that time.
Habs had a lot of second round picks and tried a lot to get a deal done.

It seems clear to me that MB tried to get many deals done to get higher picks in that draft.
But it did not work. So we have to wish that McCarron, De La Rose, Fucale and Lehkonnen end up better.

Very little information comes out of these draft.
Even back in 2009, we have no idea about the top 20 picks of the Habs.

25get 08-14-2013 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by habster (Post 70187319)
Who did the Habs had on their list at number 19 with the columbus pick?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccKU...e_gdata_player

Might as well jump directly to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...Uui7W4Hs&t=842

BrimStone64 08-14-2013 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by habster (Post 70187319)
Who did the Habs had on their list at number 19 with the columbus pick?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccKU...e_gdata_player

Chances are it was Rychel

25get 08-14-2013 04:55 AM

You could change the title: Habs trying to trade at picks 8/9 and 19th.

Respeck 08-14-2013 07:20 AM

I thought I read somewhere that Timmins had DLR ranked higher than Gauthier so I'd be surprised if it was him.

MonkeyBusiness 08-14-2013 07:25 AM

Kekalainen also talks alot about character, it's not only Bergevin folks.

Habs 4 Life 08-14-2013 07:34 AM

I'm happy in a way we didn't move up cause we ended up getting lucky with picks 34 and 36

Pax Macioretty 08-14-2013 07:36 AM

No way in hell it was Gauthier. He was the one with the less upside in the whole 1st round. My guess is Kerby Rychel, similar style to Bo Horvat whom apparently we were very high on. Man I would LOVE to see that list, like where the hell where Morin, McCarron, De La Rose and Fucale on his list.

WeThreeKings 08-14-2013 07:38 AM

Grant pretty much told us that Timmins had DLR ahead of Gauthier.

Which once again re-affirms my belief in Timmins.

25th 08-14-2013 08:11 AM

Mantha?

JHabs 08-14-2013 08:17 AM

I've heard from a few people who were on the draft floor that Bergevin was targeting F. Gauthier. Though I'm not entirely sold on this as I know for a fact both him & Timmins were celebrating when they saw McCarron available at 25.

I don't know if they thought McCarron would go earlier and wanted to make sure their pick was locked in, but the rumor is that when Gauthier was taken Bergevin was visibly upset scratching off a name on his list.

I'm personally not a fan of Gauthier at all but he'll have plenty of time to prove myself a few other of his doubters wrong. I'm quite happy with the 6'5 powerforward we drafted.

Dagistitsyn 08-14-2013 08:22 AM

Probably Rychel or.. Poirier?

Tim Wallach 08-14-2013 08:25 AM

Personally, I think all of the rumours about it being Gauthier are from those who assume Montreal was after the big French guy. But nothing based on fact.

They had to know he was going to be gone in the 18-22 range as he was in every mock and he's exactly what a team like Toronto would look for. So at very least, I don't buy the whole "Bergevin was visibly upset when Toronto took Gauthier" crap. That's like walking off a dock and being visibly upset that you got wet.

JHabs 08-14-2013 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagistitsyn (Post 70190313)
Probably Rychel or.. Poirier?

tbqh Rychel makes a lot of sense. I would be more inclined to believe Bergevin was miffed that he couldn't get Rychel.

WestIslander 08-14-2013 08:27 AM

Bergevin wanted Samuel Morin but after Philly took him he wanted Frederik Gauthier I am assuming, it was on record that they wanted Samuel Morin, basically the French Canadian Pronger, he would have been great with Tinordi or Beaulieu, Gauthier is a 3rd line big centre, maybe they wanted him.

JHabs 08-14-2013 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WestIslander (Post 70190383)
Bergevin wanted Samuel Morin but after Philly took him he wanted Frederik Gauthier I am assuming, it was on record that they wanted Samuel Morin, basically the French Canadian Pronger, he would have been great with Tinordi or Beaulieu, Gauthier is a 3rd line big centre, maybe they wanted him.

Totally bang on w/ Morin, he was very high on the Habs list, and I was told by one scout "Can you imagine Crosby's line is on the ice and your up a goal; putting on Tinordi & Morin to shut them down? Arguably the best future shutdown pairing in the NHL"

So yeah Morin & Tinordi would have been awesome, and MB & TT knew that.

Chris Cutter 08-14-2013 08:34 AM

I'm willing to bet it was Rychel, fits the profile a lot.

Shutdown 08-14-2013 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by habster (Post 70187319)
Who did the Habs had on their list at number 19 with the columbus pick?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccKU...e_gdata_player

One of their scouts said "I bet you it's McCarron" when Vancouver was up to pick, they took Shinkaruk.

Respeck 08-14-2013 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagistitsyn (Post 70190313)
Probably Rychel or.. Poirier?

I'd also guess Rychel, Poirier went quite a bit higher than expected so I don't think Timmins would've taken him that early.

Ohashi_Jouzu 08-14-2013 08:54 AM

My guesses would be Gauthier and Mantha, actually.

QuebecPride 08-14-2013 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maxpac (Post 70189605)
No way in hell it was Gauthier. He was the one with the less upside in the whole 1st round. My guess is Kerby Rychel, similar style to Bo Horvat whom apparently we were very high on. Man I would LOVE to see that list, like where the hell where Morin, McCarron, De La Rose and Fucale on his list.

You couldn't be further from the truth.

MD thaivuN 08-14-2013 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim Wallach (Post 70190361)
Personally, I think all of the rumours about it being Gauthier are from those who assume Montreal was after the big French guy. But nothing based on fact.

They had to know he was going to be gone in the 18-22 range as he was in every mock and he's exactly what a team like Toronto would look for. So at very least, I don't buy the whole "Bergevin was visibly upset when Toronto took Gauthier" crap. That's like walking off a dock and being visibly upset that you got wet.

I'm pretty sure the rumour came from Stephane Leroux on RDS :shakehead at draft day.


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