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Leafsnation97 08-16-2013 05:58 PM

Goalie skates too sharp
 
I just bought a brand new pair of reebok 14k. I tried them out on the ice and i could barely move. If i try to turn, then the outside edge digs into the ice and i fall. Last thing i want to do is break my leg. I have tryouts in a couple weeks and dont want to get cut because i cant move in my skates. Is this normal? Any advice on how to fix it? Thanks.

Bear of Bad News 08-16-2013 06:04 PM

How were they sharpened?

TieClark 08-16-2013 06:10 PM

Sounds like the radius is far narrower than you're used to

Leafsnation97 08-16-2013 06:25 PM

I got them sharpened at a goalie store.

Leafsnation97 08-16-2013 06:26 PM

I even cut my finger after checking the blade

Bear of Bad News 08-16-2013 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Leafsnation97 (Post 70271853)
I got them sharpened at a goalie store.

Understood. HOW were they sharpened? Hollow? Other details?

Leafsnation97 08-16-2013 07:02 PM

Im not sure how they were sharpened. Im think 3/8- 1/2 somewhere in that range.

TieClark 08-16-2013 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Leafsnation97 (Post 70272829)
Im not sure how they were sharpened. Im think 3/8- 1/2 somewhere in that range.

3/8 is pretty drastic for a goalie

Leafsnation97 08-16-2013 07:48 PM

Id prefer a dull blade, like it came out the box. Any suggestions?

Bear of Bad News 08-16-2013 09:41 PM

Try a one-inch hollow.

If you get them like they're out of the box, then you won't be able to stand up on them.

AIREAYE 08-16-2013 10:22 PM

I would try 3/4" before heading all the way down the other end of the spectrum at 1".

TieClark 08-17-2013 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by AIREAYE (Post 70276859)
I would try 3/4" before heading all the way down the other end of the spectrum at 1".

This. 3/4 is pretty standard for out of the box type sharpens.

cujoflutie 08-17-2013 07:54 AM

only thing you can really do is play through it; i hate getting my goalie skates sharpened, I do it once a year. Eventually they kind of mold themselves based on your tendencies, angle of your legs. The only thing I do differently with sharp ones is clean my crease more often.

TieClark 08-17-2013 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by leeaf83 (Post 70282025)
only thing you can really do is play through it; i hate getting my goalie skates sharpened, I do it once a year. Eventually they kind of mold themselves based on your tendencies, angle of your legs. The only thing I do differently with sharp ones is clean my crease more often.

That's not true at all, that's just not understanding what is actually happening when you sharpen your skates. If you feel your skates are too sharp when you get them done then chances are you want to ask for a wider radius when you sharpen them. Freshly sharpened skates should feel great.

cujoflutie 08-17-2013 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TieClark (Post 70282665)
That's not true at all, that's just not understanding what is actually happening when you sharpen your skates. If you feel your skates are too sharp when you get them done then chances are you want to ask for a wider radius when you sharpen them. Freshly sharpened skates should feel great.

goalie skates are different hence why so many people in this thread say they hate theirs sharp.

Goalies do a lot of one foot stops and it's hard to do with sharp skates.

TieClark 08-17-2013 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by leeaf83 (Post 70283691)
goalie skates are different hence why so many people in this thread say they hate theirs sharp.

Goalies do a lot of one foot stops and it's hard to do with sharp skates.

Goalie skates aren't different in the sense that they should feel great after you get them sharpened. If they feel too sharp, you're getting them sharpened at a too narrow radius

AIREAYE 08-17-2013 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TieClark (Post 70285011)
Goalie skates aren't different in the sense that they should feel great after you get them sharpened. If they feel too sharp, you're getting them sharpened at a too narrow radius

Absolutely right. No sense having to 'break in' a sharpening when you can get it done right or changed to preference.

PlamsUnlimited 08-17-2013 04:46 PM

I like my goalie skates dull. well more dull. Too sharp is no good. Unless you're rich, try to wear 'em down. That's what I did

AIREAYE 08-17-2013 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Guess What (Post 70292031)
I like my goalie skates dull. well more dull. Too sharp is no good. Unless you're rich, try to wear 'em down. That's what I did

Why not get the right hollow the first time?

PlamsUnlimited 08-17-2013 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AIREAYE (Post 70293163)
Why not get the right hollow the first time?

Cause the first time I went, I had no clue what I was doing when I was a young child.

pelts35.com 08-17-2013 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TieClark (Post 70273897)
3/8 is pretty drastic for a goalie

No, it's not.

Years ago goalies used dull blades. Today's butterfly goalies rely on their edges for powerful lateral movements.

If the ice is hard 3/8 is what I use. If it's softer then I'll take it down to 1/2. I also sharpen my skates twice a month. To me nothing worse than skating on butter knives.

TieClark 08-18-2013 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by pelts35.com (Post 70294195)
No, it's not.

Years ago goalies used dull blades. Today's butterfly goalies rely on their edges for powerful lateral movements.

If the ice is hard 3/8 is what I use. If it's softer then I'll take it down to 1/2. I also sharpen my skates twice a month. To me nothing worse than skating on butter knives.

Yes... it is. We (maybe not you but this section of the board) had this discussion a few months ago. 3/4 is a standard goalie sharpen for basically every skate sharpening place you'll head to. The reason for this is that most goalies are not technically sound enough to have a skate that sharp in net. If you push across in the butterfly and your other blade touches the ice you'll fly over yourself and potentially break an ankle/leg. That's also assuming everyone plays butterfly... if you don't there's no way you should be using a 3/8 cut.

I'm not saying you can't get them done that sharp, I'm saying for a shop to give you a 3/8 cut out of the box on a new pair of skates is very drastic and would explain every problem the OP is having.

The Saurus 08-18-2013 12:31 PM

I have a pretty specialized method of sharpening my goalie skates. The first 25% of the blade is hollowed and the last 75% of the blade is the old fashioned cross-cut.

Best combo for butterfly goaltenders IMO.

intangible 08-18-2013 01:18 PM

I'd suggest starting at 1/2" and work from there. Just get them redone.. most places if you go in there and say, "Hey, this sharpening was weird. Can you redo it for me at 1/2"?" they'll do it, no questions asked. Personally, I prefer 1/2" because it gives me good bite while still allowing me the ability to glide laterally. Some NHLers use 3/8", but that's a very drastic cut for a goalie.. there's no way I could do that without having the same problems. 1" cut is too much on the other side of the spectrum for me, too. I used to get 11/16" back when I weighed less, but you can't even find anywhere that'll do that cut anymore, sadly.

Gino 14 08-18-2013 02:38 PM

1" is a better place to start if you like "dull" skates. 1/2" is fine if you're really small, but the 1" will allow you to move side to side yet still use your edges.


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