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Jabba11 08-18-2013 12:32 PM

Alex Galchenyuk vs Nail Yakupov Part II
 
Last thread was a treat to watch. Let's continue here!

Last poll ended:

Alex Galchenyuk 435 votes - 51.00%
Nail Yakupov 418 votes - 49.00%

Total of 853 votes

dwanmaster* 08-18-2013 12:35 PM

Ag27

sansabri 08-18-2013 12:37 PM

you broke my heart, Fredo. you broke my heart.

hopefully there isn't a Part III. i could never stand Andy Garcia.

BiggestLeafsFanEVER* 08-18-2013 12:40 PM

Yakupov. Galchenyuk is better defensively, but the difference in defense doesn't make up for Yakupov's huge difference in offense

Dharvey33 08-18-2013 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreatestLeafsFanEVER (Post 70307137)
Yakupov. Galchenyuk is better defensively, but the difference in defense doesn't make up for Yakupov's huge difference in offense

so huge difference. 4 points and pp time.

You guys should give your head a shake :shakehead

SephF 08-18-2013 12:47 PM

People don't like Yakupov's attitude because he "too enthusiastic" so I feel like he doesn't get a fair shake on these polls.

RipsADrive 08-18-2013 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SephF (Post 70307279)
People don't like Yakupov's attitude because he "too enthusiastic" so I feel like he doesn't get a fair shake on these polls.

That's what happens when you only see him on TSN and are in bed by the time the Western games start.

Seth Rollins 08-18-2013 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreatestLeafsFanEVER (Post 70307137)
Yakupov. Galchenyuk is better defensively, but the difference in defense doesn't make up for Yakupov's huge difference in offense


KarlssonnSchultz 08-18-2013 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dharvey33 (Post 70307191)
so huge difference. 4 points and pp time.

You guys should give your head a shake :shakehead

Points in rookie season are not the key factor here. If you've watched them play from 2010 until now, it is clear that Yakupov has the advantage offensively.

CP31 08-18-2013 12:58 PM

Not sure why people think Yakupovs offense is clearly superior now and going forward. Bob Mckenzie even said scouts think he has as good if not greater offensive upside as Nail.

thalegion 08-18-2013 12:59 PM

I rate these guys close to equal till we get more data, lol at the rnh poll though

ottawa* 08-18-2013 01:01 PM

Galchenyuk, kind of close.

Dharvey33 08-18-2013 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KarlssonnSchultz (Post 70307477)
Points in rookie season are not the key factor here. If you've watched them play from 2010 until now, it is clear that Yakupov has the advantage offensively.

Not really because Galchenyuk missed an entire season in the juniors. He would have netted more than a 100 points had he played. Just look during the lockout he was first in the ohl for points.

Maybe Yalupov has a slight advantage but it's certainly not huge. Plus there is almost 1 year in age difference which is huge in junior hockey.

jgoud 08-18-2013 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dharvey33 (Post 70307191)
so huge difference. 4 points and pp time.

You guys should give your head a shake :shakehead

Twice the goals though. Even while they were both playing in Sarnia, it was clear who was better offensively. Every year we've been able to compare the two, Yak has been on top. Both will be great but yak is ahead right now. I'm looking forward to how they match up at the end of the year.

5RingsAndABeer 08-18-2013 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dharvey33 (Post 70307191)
so huge difference. 4 points and pp time.

You guys should give your head a shake :shakehead

Yes, because using stats from a shortened rookie season with huge variability in linemates and opportunities is a great way to project future ability

If you watch Yakupov, you'll see that he's a naturally gifted elite offensive talent

herashak 08-18-2013 01:10 PM

Much rather have AG on my team. dont know who the better player is.

duul 08-18-2013 01:18 PM

When you are on pace for 30+ goals playing with Paajarvi/Smyth/Belanger/Horcoff I think it's safe to say you are a dominant goal scorer. When paired with Hall he was second only to Ovechkin in the entire league for GPG.

He is in the top 3 pure shooters in the game along with Ovechkin and Stamkos already. He'll be playing regular minutes in the top 6 this year and if he plays with Hall all season he is a lock for 40 goals. Can you say the same about Galchenyuk?

Offensively there shouldn't be any comparison, but because Nail only had 4 more points yet played with offensively void players the entire season sans 8 games I guess we have to entertain the idea.

samsquanch9 08-18-2013 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5RingsAndABeer (Post 70307837)
Galchenyuk is offensively skilled enough to be a #1C but he's not at the same level as Yakupov.

My whole opinion is changed i would now take yakupov. Thanks for enlightening me

jgoud 08-18-2013 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dharvey33 (Post 70307677)
Not really because Galchenyuk missed an entire season in the juniors. He would have netted more than a 100 points had he played. Just look during the lockout he was first in the ohl for points.

Maybe Yakupov has a slight advantage but it's certainly not huge. Plus there is almost 1 year in age difference which is huge in junior hockey.

4 months=1 year? HAHA that is the funniest thing i've read all month. Even if it was, they were drafted the same year and each had their first year in the OHL in 2010-2011

Yeah gally was leading the OHL during the lockout, meanwhile yak racked up 18 points in 22 games in the KHL as an 18 year old. I'm sure if Yak was playing for Sarnia instead of the KHL he would have had more points than Gally during the lockout, something he did in 2010.

And how did you came up with that number? You're pulling in out of your ass, you don't know that he would have had those numbers although he did look good the season before. Yak was on that pace btw.

VeteranNetPresence 08-18-2013 01:20 PM

yakupov got benched in the 3rd period regularly while playing for one of the worst teams in the league.

checkmate.

CP31 08-18-2013 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duul (Post 70307925)
When you are on pace for 30+ goals playing with Paajarvi/Smyth/Belanger/Horcoff I think it's safe to say you are a dominant goal scorer. When paired with Hall he was second only to Ovechkin in the entire league for GPG.

He is in the top 3 pure shooters in the game along with Ovechkin and Stamkos already. He'll be playing regular minutes in the top 6 this year and if he plays with Hall all season he is a lock for 40 goals. Can you say the same about Galchenyuk?

Offensively there shouldn't be any comparison, but because Nail only had 4 more points yet played with offensively void players the entire season sans 8 games I guess we have to entertain the idea.

Jeez prepare yourself for dissapointment. Lock for 40 goals? Lol. Can I say that about Galchenyuk? Well if you can say Yak will score 40 I can say Galchenyuk will get 80 points. No more of a reach than Yak potting 40.

Seth Rollins 08-18-2013 01:29 PM

I wish it were possible for it to be like this:

Habs fans: We love Galchenyuk, but Yakupov is a great talent.
Oilers fans: We love Yakupov, but Galchenyuk is a great talent.

And leave it at that.

jgoud 08-18-2013 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VeteranNetPresence (Post 70307953)
yakupov got benched in the 3rd period regularly while playing for one of the worst teams in the league.

checkmate.

Looking forward to Lou and his contract driving your team into the ground for the next 10 years. Good value on the Horvat trade too :handclap:

jgoud 08-18-2013 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seth Rollins (Post 70308133)
I wish it were possible for it to be like this:

Habs fans: We love Galchenyuk, but Yakupov is a great talent.
Oilers fans: We love Yakupov, but Galchenyuk is a great talent.

And leave it at that.

That's how they really see it, they just don't want to say it.

5RingsAndABeer 08-18-2013 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by samsquanch9 (Post 70307935)
My whole opinion is changed i would now take yakupov. Thanks for enlightening me

It is impossible to change your opinion unless you actually watch the games. The stats don't do Yakupov (or Galchenyuk) justice. We will see next season. I expect Yakupov to light it up


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