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Chairman Maouth 08-25-2013 05:33 PM

2014 - Canada Roster Discussion (Part VII)
 
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BiggestLeafsFanEVER* 08-25-2013 05:41 PM

My post from the last thread about who the TSN panel was talking about for the team:

TSN panel just talked about their opinion on locks/favourites for the team

Goal
Lock - None
Favourite - Luongo (they also mentioned Price as the backup and I didn't hear who the #3 is)

Defense
Lock - Doughty, Weber, Keith
Favourite - Letang, Pietrangelo, Bouwemeester, Subban
They also mentioned Hamhuis

Forwards
Lock - Staal, Nash, Crosby, Toews, Getzlaf, Giroux, Tavares, Stamkos, Bergeron
Favourite - Perry, St. Louis
They also mentioned Carter and Richards
Dreger mentioned Lucic

Manitoba Oilers* 08-25-2013 05:44 PM

Hall-Crosby-Tavares
Nash-Toews-Stamkos
E.Stall-Giroux-Perry
E.Kane-Bergeron-Eberle
Couture- Nugent-Hopkins

Weber-Doughty
Keith-Letang
Pietrangelo-Subban
Seabrook-Stall
Price
Luongo


PP Stamkos-Tavares-Nugent-Hopkins
Weber-Crosby

Perry-Toews-Hall
Giroux-Keith

PK

Bergeron-Stall
Weber-Keith

Toews-Perry
Doughty-Pietrengelo

Shootout Crosby
Toews
Giroux
Eberle
Tavares

BiggestLeafsFanEVER* 08-25-2013 05:45 PM

Bob McKenzie said that the Hockey Canada officials and coaches are "very disappointed" that Giroux wasn't there but that the Flyers were "emphatic" that he not come.

syz 08-25-2013 05:58 PM

Hitchcock: Well, the biggest mistake you can make on big ice is to think you have more time.

Crosby: Well, on big ice the main difference is that you have a bit more time.

Time to start those discussions...

True Hockey Fan 08-25-2013 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreatestLeafsFanEVER (Post 70511205)
Bob McKenzie said that the Hockey Canada officials and coaches are "very disappointed" that Giroux wasn't there but that the Flyers were "emphatic" that he not come.

The whole thing is interesting. I don't know what is really behind it, maybe it's understandable, but I at least like the response of HC. There should be some respect for them. He's not there because of finger? Are you kidding me.....well, OK.
I like him both as a person and as a player, but...well, I hope it's not and it won't be a such a big problem neither for him nor for the team.

BiggestLeafsFanEVER* 08-25-2013 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by True Hockey Fan (Post 70511459)
The whole thing is interesting. I don't know what is really behind it, maybe it's understandable, but I at least like the response of HC. There should be some respect for them. He's not there because of finger? Are you kidding me.....well, OK.
I like him both as a person and as a player, but...well, I hope it's not and it won't be a such a big problem neither for him nor for the team.

to be fair to giroux tsn made it sound like it was more about the flyers than him

TherapyforGlencross 08-25-2013 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by True Hockey Fan (Post 70511459)
The whole thing is interesting. I don't know what is really behind it, maybe it's understandable, but I at least like the response of HC. There should be some respect for them. He's not there because of finger? Are you kidding me.....well, OK.
I like him both as a person and as a player, but...well, I hope it's not and it won't be a such a big problem neither for him nor for the team.

You obviously haven't endured the horrid pain of flying with a broken finger. :sarcasm:


In all seriousness, I hope him and Crosby set apart their differences and play some good ol' hockey at the tournament.

JackSlater 08-25-2013 06:24 PM

I found it interesting that Babcock told Duthie that there are five defencemen that he considers almost locks at this point. This was also just after emphasizing how much he cares about pairing a LH and RH together, and also how he does not care for players who take lots of risks. Keith, Weber and Doughty are a given. Pietrangelo seems the next most likely to me, and maybe Bouwmester as well.

True Hockey Fan 08-25-2013 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TherapyforGlencross (Post 70511881)
You obviously haven't endured the horrid pain of flying with a broken finger. :sarcasm:


In all seriousness, I hope him and Crosby set apart their differences and play some good ol' hockey at the tournament.

I would love to see that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreatestLeafsFanEVER (Post 70511761)
to be fair to giroux tsn made it sound like it was more about the flyers than him

I hope so. :laugh:

SimplySensational 08-25-2013 07:13 PM

Holtby is such an idiot, because as far as I can see he is the only one who didn't dodge the Russian law question and he answered it in the stupidest way possible in regards to getting a spot on the roster.

UsernameWasTaken 08-25-2013 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SimplySensational (Post 70512893)
Holtby is such an idiot, because as far as I can see he is the only one who didn't dodge the Russian law question and he answered it in the stupidest way possible in regards to getting a spot on the roster.

What did he say?

All the video clips from the press conference are up on the tsn website.

SimplySensational 08-25-2013 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UsernameWasTaken (Post 70512961)
What did he say?

He said it was tough to go to a country with those laws.

flaneur 08-25-2013 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SimplySensational (Post 70512983)
He said it was tough to go to a country with those laws.

In his defence, of all the players they have a clip of answering this question I think he has the least amount of media training on this topic. The other players were Crosby, Stamkos, and Weber (both Stamkos and Weber were part of the You Can Play campaign and Crosby is Crosby).

MsWoof 08-25-2013 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by True Hockey Fan (Post 70511459)
The whole thing is interesting. I don't know what is really behind it, maybe it's understandable, but I at least like the response of HC. There should be some respect for them. He's not there because of finger? Are you kidding me.....well, OK.
I like him both as a person and as a player, but...well, I hope it's not and it won't be a such a big problem neither for him nor for the team.

I don't understand this at all. It's not like they were going to go on the ice or anything. I'm sure HC didn't expect him or any other players to do anything physical and it's his first time as an Olympic invitee. Something's up.

XeO 08-25-2013 10:51 PM

My guess

Nash - Crosby - Giroux
Hall - Toews - Stamkos
Marchand - Tavares - Bergeron
E.Staal - Getzlaf - Perry

Keith - Weber
Bouwmeester - Doughty
Pietrangelo - Subban

Luongo
Price
Crawford

SidTheKid8787 08-25-2013 11:12 PM

It's quite possible the Flyers just wanted to lock Giroux in his house before training camp/start of the season so he didn't injure anything else.

The one interesting tidbit i got from the footage today was Babcock worked with the Lions and Michigan university team and consulted them about "walkthroughs".

Babcock and the staff plan on getting the players on olympic sized ice(in their shoes of course) and going through systems etc. Babcock said it can be a more useful tool then just watching video or a drawing board.

DyerMaker66 08-26-2013 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacMan93 (Post 70518361)
too many oilers involved in all this

i have a bad feeling hall and eberle are gonna make the team.

They both should. Where I disagree with Oilers fans is that RNH has any chance of making this team.


Quote:

Originally Posted by duul (Post 70518361)
Babcock said they'll be a younger group. Not entirely sure what to make of that, but perhaps we will see a decent amount of Hall/Duchene/Couture/Eberle's

I hope so; no 2006 repeat, please.

Quote:

Originally Posted by oreopancake (Post 70518361)
Maybe that gets rid of Sharp but St. Louis still has a good chance IMO

Agreed; the only things (potentially) against St. Louis are the facts that he didn't make the 2010 team and his age.

Quote:

Originally Posted by oreopancake (Post 70518361)
More likely, it means that the likes of Stamkos, Tavares, Giroux are locks to make the team this time around. The players you mentioned are on the bubble IMO.

Agreed and I really hope the players duul listed get a good look taken at them.


Quote:

Originally Posted by GreatestLeafsFanEVER (Post 70518361)
TSN panel just talked about their opinion on locks/favourites for the team

Goal
Lock - None
Favourite - Luongo (they also mentioned Price as the backup and I didn't hear who the #3 is)

Defense
Lock - Doughty, Weber, Keith
Favourite - Letang, Pietrangelo, Bouwemeester, Subban
They also mentioned Hamhuis

Forwards
Lock - Staal, Nash, Crosby, Toews, Getzlaf, Giroux, Tavares, Stamkos, Bergeron
Favourite - Perry, St. Louis
They also mentioned Carter and Richards
Dreger mentioned Lucic

Smith was their #3 guy, iirc.

I don't like the addition of Bouwmeester; I'd rather Marc Staal be there instead.

I really don't think Lucic should be on this team.

SimpleJack 08-26-2013 12:21 AM

Stamkos - Crosby - St. Louis
Tavares - Toews - Giroux
Nash - Bergeron - Richards
Hall - Getzlaf - E. Staal
Perry, Couture

Subban - Weber
Keith - Seabrook
Pietrangelo - Doughty
Letang

Price/Luongo
Crawford

butter sheep* 08-26-2013 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XeO (Post 70518019)
My guess

Nash - Crosby - Giroux
Hall - Toews - Stamkos
Marchand - Tavares - Bergeron
E.Staal - Getzlaf - Perry

Keith - Weber
Bouwmeester - Doughty
Pietrangelo - Subban

Luongo
Price
Crawford

Not so sure about Luongo starting but everything else looks good. Maybe replace Bouwmeester with Letang and Pietrangelo with Seabrook and we're set.

Ironslave 08-26-2013 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moemoe (Post 70519805)
Not so sure about Luongo starting but everything else looks good. Maybe replace Bouwmeester with Letang and Pietrangelo with Seabrook and we're set.

Bouwmeester is a left shot, he plays well on international size ice, and Babcock likes defenders to play their natural side. You'd also have a tough time arguing for Seabrook over Pietrangelo, Pietrangelo is a much better player.

Paul4587 08-26-2013 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moemoe (Post 70519805)
Not so sure about Luongo starting but everything else looks good. Maybe replace Bouwmeester with Letang and Pietrangelo with Seabrook and we're set.

They're not going to be taking 1 LHS. There will be at least 2, probably 3 LHS defensemen on the roster.

jfc64 08-26-2013 04:01 AM

Assemble the worst team you can think of that would still take a bronze medal!

Marleau - Thornton - St. Louis
Lucic - Richards B - Seguin
Benn - Duchene - Lecavalier
Marchand - Richards M - Bergeron

...

camperjr 08-26-2013 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by syz (Post 70511405)
Hitchcock: Well, the biggest mistake you can make on big ice is to think you have more time.

Crosby: Well, on big ice the main difference is that you have a bit more time.

Time to start those discussions...

I noticed that too, interresting to compare the quotes

Mr Writer 08-26-2013 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by camperjr (Post 70522065)
I noticed that too, interresting to compare the quotes

Both statements are accurate, you do have a second or two longer to make a play, but from a tactical point of view, it is a mistake to take that second or two... is what I thought he meant by it, the pace of the game we want to play shouldn't change just because there is that added second to make a decision...


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