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Carey Commit 09-11-2013 12:54 PM

ESPN top 100 prospects (paywall)
 
I can't post the whole list but some of the rankings caught my eye, Kuznetsov over Nichushkin, Grigorenko top 10 and Trouba over Rielly.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nhl/story...spects-2013-14

Ashasx 09-11-2013 01:08 PM

Shinkaruk over Baertschi.

vanwest 09-11-2013 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashasx (Post 71007067)
Shinkaruk over Baertschi.

Agreed. :)

madmike77 09-11-2013 01:27 PM

Nice to see some good Flames representation, but it seems a bit tilted towards this year's draftees.

drw02 09-11-2013 01:31 PM

i can't believe espn still tries to charge for some content...it's laughable. espn is a flat out joke.

ChronicallyInjured 09-11-2013 01:50 PM

Can someone just post the ratings?

HarrisonFord 09-11-2013 02:03 PM

I love how ESPN spends 12 months of the year pretending that hockey doesn't exist, then expects to be taken seriously when they come out with garbage lists like this

Pizzarena91 09-11-2013 02:04 PM

ESPN

Exceptionally
S@#ty
Pertaining to
NHL

:sarcasm:

Trafalgar McLaw 09-11-2013 02:05 PM

They have Drouin #1. That's all that needs to be said.:shakehead:

lanky 09-11-2013 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by HarrisonFord (Post 71009493)
I love how ESPN spends 12 months of the year pretending that hockey doesn't exist, then expects to be taken seriously when they come out with garbage lists like this

Pronman is a very insightful source. Bash Espn if you like but that guy knows hockey.

HarrisonFord 09-11-2013 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by lanky (Post 71009689)
Pronman is a very insightful source. Bash Espn if you like but that guy knows hockey.

Had no idea of the author. Didnt click due to paywall. Pronman and LeBrun are solid.

Aceboogie 09-11-2013 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by drw02 (Post 71008039)
i can't believe espn still tries to charge for some content...it's laughable. espn is a flat out joke.

Why? Im assuming this is Pronman. Who does some good work himself. Why not pay him for what he does. He provides a service we all enjoy. $3 a month is not that much if your dedicated to following prospects.

I dont pay for it because I can get free content elsewhere, but its also lower quality.

Pronman made the switch to Espn from HP. For evaluting prospects from a nuetral standpoint I rate him as the #1 guy to follow. He watches alot (like a large amount) of prospect games. Alot of those games are on crappy feeds, and can be alot. He also follows the prospects post draft and talks to a ton of scouts. He does his homework and evulates on a basis that is neutral for all prospects.

Necropolis 09-11-2013 02:26 PM

Can't see anything else than Drouin as #1 which is ridiculous IMO (okay, not ridiculous but stupid). I think there are 4-6 better prospects than Drouin. But I guess points are all that matter. :shakehead

Musashi 09-11-2013 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Trafalgar Law (Post 71009583)
They have Drouin #1. That's all that needs to be said.:shakehead:

I don't see what's wrong with that, you can make a pretty good case for Drouin being the #1 prospect based on what he's accomplished so far. That kid is amazing to watch.

bert 09-11-2013 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trafalgar Law (Post 71009583)
They have Drouin #1. That's all that needs to be said.:shakehead:

He's number 1 on my list, there is no argument out there to suggest that this is a bad choice. He was CHL player of the year pushed Huberdeau the NHL rookie of the year off the first line at the world juniors and had 140 points in 66 games and 5 points in the memorial cup winning game. He has the best hockey sense and skill from what projects to be one of the best drafts ever.

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Originally Posted by Hedman77 (Post 71010509)
Can't see anything else than Drouin as #1 which is ridiculous IMO (okay, not ridiculous but stupid). I think there are 4-6 better prospects than Drouin. But I guess points are all that matter. :shakehead

I watched him live 10 times did you? Never seen a Jr make plays and control the play in the offensive/neutral zone like this player. He goes to where the puck is going, his skating isn't as good as Mackinnon but its still pretty damn good. I have seen Mackinnon, Yakupov, Stamkos, Hall, Tavares, Spezza, Roy, Thornton and the list goes on.

drw02 09-11-2013 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by topchowda (Post 71010489)
Why? Im assuming this is Pronman. Who does some good work himself. Why not pay him for what he does. He provides a service we all enjoy. $3 a month is not that much if your dedicated to following prospects.

I dont pay for it because I can get free content elsewhere, but its also lower quality.

Pronman made the switch to Espn from HP. For evaluting prospects from a nuetral standpoint I rate him as the #1 guy to follow. He watches alot (like a large amount) of prospect games. Alot of those games are on crappy feeds, and can be alot. He also follows the prospects post draft and talks to a ton of scouts. He does his homework and evulates on a basis that is neutral for all prospects.

Because virtually no other site charges. Does TSN charge to see Craig Button's list of top prospects? No. And I, like 99% of other sports fans, can also find similar content elsewhere for free.

Codith 09-11-2013 02:34 PM

Drouin is the best player I have seen in the Q since Crosby, I'd say its fair to give him that nod, he has better hockey sense than any prospect out there right now, and he will provide the point production to back up this ranking.

Aceboogie 09-11-2013 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by drw02 (Post 71010819)
Because virtually no other site charges. Does TSN charge to see Craig Button's list of top prospects? No. And I, like 99% of other sports fans, can also find similar content elsewhere for free.

True, but I doubt Button takes time out of his day to watch prospect games. He largely only talks to scouts. And he is also paid handsomly by TSN to do shows. His prospect rankings are a smaller part of what he does and are probaly based on Pronman rankings as well as other scouting agencies

Pronman does a less heralded job thats relatively unimportant to the general people who dont really care about prospect rankings. His sole job is to watch prospects and his compensation is based solely on those rankings. He doesnt have a show like Button has.

Most of the other scouting reports are paywall to save for some free top 30 content (Redline reports etc). And Button, Mckenzie and other free sources just use those scouting reports to create there own.

Pronman provides a very limited scope of info (relatively speaking) but does it very well

NA Scouting 09-11-2013 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trafalgar Law (Post 71009583)
They have Drouin #1. That's all that needs to be said.:shakehead:

Drouin is indeed the #1 prospect in the world right now.

Necropolis 09-11-2013 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bert (Post 71010791)
I watched him live 10 times did you? Never seen a Jr make plays and control the play in the offensive/neutral zone like this player. He goes to where the puck is going, his skating isn't as good as Mackinnon but its still pretty damn good. I have seen Mackinnon, Yakupov, Stamkos, Hall, Tavares, Spezza, Roy, Thornton and the list goes on.

I've seen Drouin play in about 10 games as well. I don't mean to say that he's a bad prospect by any means but from what I've seen from Jones, Barkov, MacKinnon and Kuznetsov they all look better for me. Drouin probably does have the most upside of all prospects but I don't think that enough; those four guys are way more safe IMO. But yeah, I probably did overreact a bit in my post.

Jacko95 09-11-2013 02:59 PM

Might somebody say me how high he has Kucherov (just something like top 50 or top40 or whatever) and how many Lightning prospects are in the list.

Would be really really nice.

Reign Nateo 09-11-2013 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ashasx (Post 71007067)
Shinkaruk over Baertschi.

Pretty sure someone on CalgaryPuck is writing a anti-Canuck manifesto about this as we speak.

Aceboogie 09-11-2013 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reign Nateo (Post 71012281)
Pretty sure someone on CalgaryPuck is writing a anti-Canuck manifesto about this as we speak.

:laugh:

I think he did this ranking to see if he can crash CP

TheHudlinator 09-11-2013 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ashasx (Post 71007067)
Shinkaruk over Baertschi.

:laugh: never change espn never change

Superpest 09-11-2013 03:47 PM

With the amount of attention Flames fans give to Shinkaruk you'd almost think he was a prospect of their own :laugh:


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