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sa cyred 09-18-2013 03:34 PM

Sep 20: Newbury/Danis/Holmstrom clear waivers, sent to AHL; Bourdon clears (LTIR?)
 
Sept. 20:
Newbury/Danis/Holmstrom/Bourdon all clear waivers. Bourdon likely headed for LTIR. The other three were sent to Adirondack.

Sept. 19:
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/f...4-players.html

Quote:

LAKE PLACID, N.Y. -- Before even taking the ice at Herb Brooks Arena, the Flyers’ roster has shrunk to 27 players.

The Flyers placed four players on waivers on Thursday, including forwards Ben Holmstrom and Kris Newbury, defenseman Marc-Andre Bourdon and goaltender Yann Danis.

The other 29 teams have until noon on Friday to place a claim. Otherwise, all four will be assigned to the AHL’s Adirondack Phantoms, who will open their own training camp just 90 miles south in Glens Falls, N.Y., this week.
Sept. 18:
http://flyers.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=683099

Quote:

ADIRONDACK TRAINING CAMP (AHL)
Brandon Alderson
Jason Akeson
Mark Alt
Rob Bordson
Tyler Brown
Carsen Chubak
Doug Clarkson
Nick Cousins
Steven Delisle
Cullen Eddy
Kyle Flanagan
Cal Heeter
Tyler Hostetter
Andrew Johnston
Matt Konan
Maxim Lamarche
Matt Mangene
Brandon Manning
Derek Mathers
Tye McGinn
Mark Nemec
Marcel Noebels
Petr Straka
Zack Fitzgerald

LOANED TO JUNIOR CLUBS
Tyrell Goulbourne – Kelowna (WHL)
Taylor Leier – Portland (WHL)
Samuel Morin – Rimouski (QMJHL)
Figure make it's own thread since Raffl outbeat McGinn which not many people thought. Lecav was interviewed and said he felt like he had alot of chemistry with Raffl already. Already banking on a Raffl-Lecav-Simmonds line.

Laughton also still on team.

Curufinwe 09-18-2013 03:39 PM

I don't think Raffl will beat Hartnell or Schenn for one of the LW spots on the top two lines.

sa cyred 09-18-2013 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curufinwe (Post 71266195)
I don't think Raffl will beat Hartnell or Schenn for one of the LW spots on the top two lines.

Probablly not, but will be an interesting story. After the Rangers game, Vinny says he likes his chemistry with Raffl. Doesnt mention Hartnell or Simmonds.

LegionOfDoom91 09-18-2013 03:44 PM

Yup, pretty much what expected Raffl & Laughton had the inside track.

I think both make the team. Laughton will push out Adam Hall who really hasn't been too impressive IMO, I know people will bring up his face off ability but frankly Lavi doesn't see him like a faceoff specialist like many on here do.

boodangleroo28 09-18-2013 03:45 PM

So who do we have left?

Curufinwe 09-18-2013 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegionOfDoom91 (Post 71266383)
Yup, pretty much what expected Raffl & Laughton had the inside track.

I think both make the team. Laughton will push out Adam Hall who really hasn't been too impressive IMO, I know people will bring up his face off ability but frankly Lavi doesn't see him like a faceoff specialist like many on here do.

If Couturier can jump up to around 50% on draws then having Hall to take defensive zone faceoffs won't be so important.

bennysflyers16 09-18-2013 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curufinwe (Post 71266195)
I don't think Raffl will beat Hartnell or Schenn for one of the LW spots on the top two lines.

Harts with Read and Couts wouldn't be the worst option , and I want Schenn with G.

Brayden-G-V
Raffl-Vinny-Simmer
Harts-Couts-Read
Talbot-Hall-Rinaldo
Rosehill, Laughton

Streit-Schenn
Kimo-Coburn
Gross-Gus
Mez
Gervais
Gill

Rayzor
Mason
who am I missing ?

sa cyred 09-18-2013 03:52 PM

Quote:

Chris VandeVelde, Oliver Lauridsen, Ben Holmstrom, Yann Danis and Kris Newbury are among the 17 F, 9 D, 3 G heading to Lake Placid.
-Frank S

Doubt they make it though


EDIT:
Quote:

Holmstrom, Danis and Newbury all need to clear waivers before they can get sent down, so that may happen tom.
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Curufinwe 09-18-2013 03:54 PM

I hope Lauridsen ends up ahead of Gill in the pecking order.

McNasty 09-18-2013 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LegionOfDoom91 (Post 71266383)
Yup, pretty much what expected Raffl & Laughton had the inside track.

I think both make the team. Laughton will push out Adam Hall who really hasn't been too impressive IMO, I know people will bring up his face off ability but frankly Lavi doesn't see him like a faceoff specialist like many on here do.

If Couturier improves (he did well last night) and Giroux and Lecavalier are similar to last season there is less of a need for a faceoff specialist.

McNasty 09-18-2013 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curufinwe (Post 71266195)
I don't think Raffl will beat Hartnell or Schenn for one of the LW spots on the top two lines.

It's kind of irrelevant where he starts, at some point injuries or cold streaks are going to pop up and lines are going to be tweaked.

Kevin Danko 09-18-2013 04:03 PM

i havent been impressed with raffl

flyersfan018 09-18-2013 04:03 PM

Still think Raffl wins the 3LW spot over Laughton

MiamiScreamingEagles 09-18-2013 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boodangleroo28 (Post 71266401)
So who do we have left?

http://flyers.nhl.com/v2/ext/trainin...ter%209-18.pdf

Color-coordinated to see who was released, demoted, sent to juniors and is still on the active roster:

FLYERS' ROSTER, SEPTEMBER 19
Forwards
No. Player Height WeightPlace of BirthDate of Birth2012-13 TeamLeague
42 Akeson, Jason 5'10" 181 Orleans, Ontario 6/3/90 FLYERS/Phantoms/Trenton TitansNHL/AHL/ ECHL
64 Alderson, Brandon 6'4" 195 Oakville, Ontario 1/22/92 Phantoms/Sault Ste. Marie GreyhoundsAHL/OHL
65 Bordson, Rob 6'2" 176 Duluth, Minnesota 6/9/88 Phantoms AHL
56 Brown, Tyler 6'2" 189 Wasaga Beach, Ontario 2/7/90 Phantoms AHL
74 Clarkson, Doug 6'5" 231 Mimico, Ontario 11/21/88 Toledo Walleye/Trenton Titans ECHL/ECHL
52 Cousins, Nick 5'11" 187 Belleville, Ontario 7/20/93 Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds/Phantoms OHL/AHL
14 Couturier, Sean 6'3" 197 Phoenix, Arizona 12/7/92 FLYERS/Phantoms NHL/AHL
61 Fitzgerald, Zack 6'1" 214 Two Harbors, Minnesota 6/16/85 Phantoms AHL
59 Flanagan, Kyle 5'9" 179 Canton, New York 12/30/88 Phantoms/St. Lawrence University AHL/ECAC
28 Giroux, Claude 5'11" 172 Hearst, Ontario 1/12/88 FLYERS NHL
53 Goulbourne, Tyrell 5'10" 195 Edmonton, Alberta 1/26/94 Kelowna Rockets WHL
18 Hall, Adam 6'2" 212 Kalamazoo, Michigan 8/14/80 FLYERS/Tampa Bay Lightning/Carolina HurricanesNHL/NHL/NHL
19 Hartnell, Scott 6'2" 210 Regina, Saskatchewan 4/18/82 FLYERS NHL
23 Holmstrom, Ben 6'1" 197 Colorado Springs, Colorado 4/9/87 Phantoms AHL
46 Johnston, Andrew 6'1" 193 Saskatoon, Saskatchewan 7/6/91 Phantoms/Trenton TitansAHL/ECHL
21 Laughton, Scott 6'0" 194 Oakville, Ontario 5/30/94 FLYERS/Phantoms/Oshawa GeneralsNHL/AHL/ OHL
40 Lecavalier, Vincent 6'4" 215 Ile Bizard, Quebec 4/21/80 Tampa Bay Lightning NHL
58 Leier, Taylor 5'11" 181 Saskatoon, Saskatchewan 2/15/94 Portland WinterhawksWHL
54 Mangene, Matt 5'11" 190 Manorville, New York 3/12/89 Phantoms/ Trenton Titans AHL/ECHL
57 Mathers, Derek 6'3" 235 Strathroy, Ontario 8/4/93 Peterborough Petes/PhantomsOHL/ AHL
15 McGinn, Tye 6'2" 216 Fergus, Ontario 7/29/90 FLYERS/PhantomsNHL/ AHL
45 Newbury, Kris 5'11" 205 Brampton, Ontario 2/19/82 NY Rangers/Connecticut WhaleNHL/ AHL
47 Noebels, Marcel 6'3" 207 Toenisvorst, Germany 3/14/92 Phantoms/Trenton Titans AHL/ECHL
12 Raffl, Michael 6'0" 192 Villach, Austria 12/1/88 Leksands IF Swe-1
24 Read, Matt 5'10" 185 Ilderton, Ontario 6/14/86 FLYERS NHL
36 Rinaldo, Zac 5'11" 169 Hamilton, Ontario 6/15/90 FLYERS/Phantoms NHL/AHL
37 Rosehill, Jay 6'3" 215 Olds, Alberta 7/16/85 FLYERS/Norfolk Admirals NHL/AHL
10 Schenn, Brayden 6'1" 190 Saskatoon, Saskatchewan 8/22/91FLYERS/PhantomsNHL/AHL
17 Simmonds, Wayne 6'2" 183 Scarborough, Ontario 8/26/88 FLYERS NHL
51 Straka, Petr 6'1" 185 Plzen, Czech Republic 7/15/92 Baie-Comeau Drakkar QMJHL
25 Talbot, Max 5'11" 190 Lemoyne, Quebec 2/11/84 FLYERS NHL
76 VandeVelde, Chris 6'2" 205 Moorhead, Minnesota 3/15/87 Edmonton Oilers/Oklahoma City Barons NHL/AHL
93 Voracek, Jakub 6'2" 214 Kladno, Czech Republic 8/15/89 FLYERS NHL
11 Wellwood, Eric 5'11" 179 Windsor, Ontario 3/6/90 FLYERS/Phantoms NHL/AHL

Defensemen
No. Player Height WeightPlace of BirthDate of Birth2012-13 TeamLeague
39 Alt, Mark 6'3" 205 Kansas City, Missouri 10/18/91 Phantoms/University of MinnesotaAHL/ NCAA
43 Bourdon, Marc-Andre 6'0" 206 St. Hyacinthe, Quebec 9/17/89 Phantoms AHL
5 Coburn, Braydon 6'5" 220 Calgary, Alberta 2/27/85 FLYERS NHL
60 Delisle, Steven 6'5" 209 Levis, Quebec 7/30/90 Connecticut Whale/Greenville Road Warriors AHL/ECHL
63 Eddy, Cullen 6'0" 195 Hidden Valley, Penn. 11/18/88 Phantoms AHL
27 Gervais, Bruno 6'1" 200 Longueuil, Quebec 10/3/84 FLYERS NHL
75 Gill, Hal 6'7" 240 Concord, Massachusetts 4/6/75 Nashville Predators NHL
8 Grossmann, Nicklas 6'4" 230 Stockholm, Sweden 1/22/85 FLYERS NHL
26 Gustafsson, Erik 5'10" 180 Kvissleby, Sweden 12/15/88 FLYERS NHL
62 Hostetter, Tyler 5'11" 182 Lititz, Pennsylvania 1/30/91 Trenton TitansECHL
34 Konan, Matt 6'3" 198 Tustin, California 6/3/91 FLYERS/PhantomsTrenton Titans NHL/AHL/ECHL
50 Lamarche, Maxim 6'3" 218 Laval, Quebec 7/11/92 Baie-Comeau Drakkar QMJHL
38 Lauridsen, Oliver 6'6" 232 Gentofte, Denmark 3/24/89 FLYERS/Phantoms NHL/AHL
3 Manning, Brandon 6'1" 200 Prince George, B.C. 6/4/90 FLYERS/Phantoms NHL/AHL
41 Meszaros, Andrej 6'2" 223 Povazska Bystrica, Cz. R 11/13/85 FLYERSNHL
55 Morin, Samuel 6'6"202 Lac-Beauport, Quebec7/12/95Rimouski Oceanic QMJHL
70 Nemec, Mark 6'4" 209 Rouses Point, New York 12/11/88U Maine/Orlando Solar Bears/Wheeling Nailers NCAA/ECHL/ECHL
68 Orlando, Todd 6'8" 236 Cinton Township, Michigan 7/26/86 Denver Cutthroats CHL
20 Pronger, Chris 6'6'' 220 Dryden, Ontario 10/10/74 FLYERS NHL
22 Schenn, Luke 6'2" 229 Saskatoon, Saskatchewan 11/2/89 FLYERSNHL
32 Streit, Mark 5'11" 191 Bern, Switzerland 12/11/77 NY Islanders NHL
44 Timonen, Kimmo 5'10" 194 Kuopio, Finland 3/18/75 FLYERS NHL

Goalies
No. Player Height WeightPlace of BirthDate of Birth2012-13 TeamLeague
67 Chubak, Carsen 5'11" 170 Prince Albert, Sasketchewan 4/11/89 Niagara University NCAA
30 Danis, Yann 6'0" 185 Lafontaine, Quebec 6/21/81 Edmonton Oilers/Oklahoma City BaronsNHL/AHL
29 Emery, Ray 6'2" 196 Cayuga, Ontario 9/28/82 Chicago Blackhawks NHL
33 Heeter, Cal 6'4" 195 St. Louis, Missouri 11/2/88 Phantoms/Trenton Titans AHL/ECHL
35 Mason, Steve 6'4" 217 Oakville, Ontario 5/29/88 FLYERS/Columbus Blue Jackets NHL/NHL
49 Stolarz, Anthony 6'5" 222 Edison, New Jersey 1/20/94 London Knights OHL

Bold = active on roster
Light green = sent to Adirondack (AHL) camp
Red = loaned to juniors
Light blue = released from tryout
Navy = On AHL contract, recovering from severe injury
Blue = Injured and likely headed for LTIR.

sa cyred 09-18-2013 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevindank (Post 71266953)
i havent been impressed with raffl

Seriously? I thought he has looked pretty good. Guess it is in the eye of the beholder. His 2nd game he was on a checking line, so he didnt get offense going, but his first game he looked extremely good with Vinny and Simmonds. If Im not mistaken lead the team in shots also.

Calderone 09-18-2013 04:48 PM

I hope Raffl is good, but I also hope he doesn't take the spot Laughton woulda had.. Any chance Newbury stays up? I really like him as a 4th line guy.

PhilaFlyers 09-18-2013 05:01 PM

Who is VandeVelde? Possible 4th line grinder?

MiamiScreamingEagles 09-18-2013 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calderone (Post 71268147)
I hope Raffl is good, but I also hope he doesn't take the spot Laughton woulda had.. Any chance Newbury stays up? I really like him as a 4th line guy.

Probably still on the outside looking in.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhilaFlyers (Post 71268447)
Who is VandeVelde? Possible 4th line grinder?

Signed with the Phantoms earlier this month. Has limited NHL experience with Edmonton. Played college hockey at North Dakota. I thought he played well last night.

Article from earlier this year while he was with the Oilers:

http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/201...oaching-staff/

Hockeypete49 09-18-2013 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sa cyred (Post 71267373)
Seriously? I thought he has looked pretty good. Guess it is in the eye of the beholder. His 2nd game he was on a checking line, so he didnt get offense going, but his first game he looked extremely good with Vinny and Simmonds. If Im not mistaken lead the team in shots also.

I agree. I thought he looked good to me also. Plus if Vinny gives him his seal of approval that may carry some weight.

MiamiScreamingEagles 09-18-2013 05:19 PM

^ Just saw this, too, which perhaps factors into the equation...

Quote:

As for Ben Holmstrom and Kris Newbury, they both are a mild surprise to still be on the roster, but research also tells me that they have to clear waivers before being sent down to the Phantoms camp, so I wouldn’t be surprised if that were the case and that they join the Phantoms later this week assuming they go unclaimed (Goalie Yann Danis is in the same boat).
http://flyers.nhl.com/club/blogpost.htm?id=20415

Source: Anthony SanFilippo

King Forsberg 09-18-2013 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sa cyred (Post 71266235)
Probablly not, but will be an interesting story. After the Rangers game, Vinny says he likes his chemistry with Raffl. Doesnt mention Hartnell or Simmonds.

Great. Lecavalier is picking favorites in the locker room and ignoring his teammates already!

DrinkFightFlyers 09-18-2013 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curufinwe (Post 71266707)
I hope Lauridsen ends up ahead of Gill in the pecking order.

If Lauridsen is waiver exempt (is he?), I'd rather let Gil sit in the press box while Lauridsen plays in AHL.

flyersfan28 09-18-2013 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calderone (Post 71268147)
I hope Raffl is good, but I also hope he doesn't take the spot Laughton woulda had.. Any chance Newbury stays up? I really like him as a 4th line guy.

yeah is a very good 4 line player

he deserve a chance

laughton-couturier-read
rinaldo- talbot/newbury- rosehill

flyersfan018 09-18-2013 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyersfan28 (Post 71272615)
yeah is a very good 4 line player

he deserve a chance

laughton-couturier-read
rinaldo- talbot/newbury- rosehill

No way Newbury makes it. I honestly think VandeVelde has a better chance. THis is how I see it.

Hartnell-Giroux-Voracek
Schenn-Lecavalier-Simmonds
Raffl-Couts-Read
Rinaldo-Talbot/Hall-Talbot/Rosehill

leclair1088 09-18-2013 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevindank (Post 71266953)
i havent been impressed with raffl

Your fault.


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