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hototogisu 09-29-2013 11:12 AM

John-Michael Liles (TOR) (clears)
 
Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC 2m

Liles on waivers for TOR, Emmertom for DET

viper0220 09-29-2013 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by hototogisu (Post 71702403)
Elliotte Friedman ‏@FriedgeHNIC 2m

Liles on waivers for TOR, Emmertom for DET



Why would they do that? I wonder who is going to claim him.

Freudian 09-29-2013 11:15 AM

Now we'll get an empiric test of if he has positive or negative trade value.

Morlu 09-29-2013 11:15 AM

Maybe Calgary will pick him in exchange for trading Colborne for a 4th. But doubtful >_<

MetaOil1993 09-29-2013 11:15 AM

Won't be surprised if he goes unclaimed. He has a pretty big contract. I hope the Oilers claim Emmerton for the 4th line C position. Theres no way he can be worse than Will Acton.

WHLfollower 09-29-2013 11:15 AM

I hope its true.

TheHudlinator 09-29-2013 11:16 AM

I guess Colborne wasn't a big enough piece for someone to take his contract.

Gigantor The Goalie 09-29-2013 11:16 AM

He'll pass like Komisarek and Connolly did last year. Next step buy out next year

Narg98 09-29-2013 11:17 AM

Maybe the Avs could use him, their D is terrible... but I'm not sure a offensive oriented d-man is the answer.

I've got to say I'm a little suprised ! I really liked him in Colorado, never really paid attention to his stats in Toronto, I just checked... what happend ? 4.2M cap hit...

ponder 09-29-2013 11:18 AM

I think Liles has roughly zero trade value. Not a bad player at all, but a bit overpaid, getting a bit older, and not many teams have cap space. I think he's very borderline in terms of whether or not he should be picked up, I won't be surprised either way.

Gigantor The Goalie 09-29-2013 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Narg98 (Post 71702713)
Maybe the Avs could use him, their D is terrible... but I'm not sure a offensive oriented d-man is the answer.

No we can't use him and we're not helping the Leafs with their cap situation

Pi 09-29-2013 11:21 AM

Glad that the Leafs made the hard decision. Morgan Rielly probably made the team if they were willing to make room for him.

Gunnar, Phaneuf, Gardiner, Ranger, Fraser, Franson and Rielly.

Narg98 09-29-2013 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Gigantor The Goalie (Post 71702749)
No we can't use him and we're not helping the Leafs with their cap situation

Why is that ? In my mind, Liles is not worst than Sarich, Wilson and Benoit

Pi 09-29-2013 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freudian (Post 71702587)
Now we'll get an empiric test of if he has positive or negative trade value.

He has value but with the cap coming down, he's not going get picked up unless some team like the Flames want him.

We just have too many PMD's...we went from having none (after Kaberle getting traded) to having 3-4 of them.

ChesapeakeRipper 09-29-2013 11:23 AM

if the leafs held on to 1M, will any teams take a chance on liles at 2.8M? i think that's a good price for him for what he brings to the table...

sucks that he has to go to the minors cause of the cap.

A1LeafNation 09-29-2013 11:23 AM

Gives them the option to send him down or be picked up. We've seen players clear waivers and stick with their NHL team.

Liles is a good player at 3.875 per, just not being used by Carlyle. Plus we have Rielly and Gardiner.

Milan the God* 09-29-2013 11:24 AM

But...I thought Nonis would be able to trade him?

varano 09-29-2013 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Narg98 (Post 71702955)
Why is that ? In my mind, Liles is not worst than Sarich, Wilson and Benoit

Liles is looked at as a dinosaur. A very expensive dinosaur.

I think his value is more along the lines of 1.5m based off of what he
can do for a team

TheStranger 09-29-2013 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Narg98 (Post 71702955)
Why is that ? In my mind, Liles is not worst than Sarich, Wilson and Benoit

Defensively he is.

Sakic19Duchene9 09-29-2013 11:25 AM

Probably couldn't anything for him in a trade.

varano 09-29-2013 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Gigantor The Goalie (Post 71703081)
Back when I was 10yo. We can't use him because he doesn't fit in with the team. The problem with our defense is because players are playing above their appropriate position on the depth chart. Adding Liles on his current contract is against managements current direction. If Liles was on a cheap one year contract then I'm sure we can use him. However there's no point in adding Liles to just create more of log jam on defense thanks to bottom pairing defenders.

I would agree.

Hotlanta 09-29-2013 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Gigantor The Goalie (Post 71702749)
No we can't use him and we're not helping the Leafs with their cap situation

What Cap Situation?

If you can't use him that's fine but the leafs cap situation has no effect on your team's management... Even if you would be doing the leafs a favour. There is things called win-win situations in the NHL.

jmart21 09-29-2013 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by BetterCallSaul (Post 71703009)
if the leafs held on to 1M, will any teams take a chance on liles at 2.8M? i think that's a good price for him for what he brings to the table...

sucks that he has to go to the minors cause of the cap.

I think the only way the leafs trade him and retain salary is if they are retaining <0.925M. Otherwise it's more advantageous for them to keep him in the minors.

I am neglecting the human factor here, so you never know....Nonis could deal him and keep 1M on the books just to give him a chance to play.

BigDaddyLurch 09-29-2013 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pi (Post 71702921)
Glad that the Leafs made the hard decision. Morgan Rielly probably made the team if they were willing to make room for him.

Gunnar, Phaneuf, Gardiner, Ranger, Fraser, Franson and Rielly.

I'm not trying to come off as a smartass here, and that D looks awesome from an offensive point of view, but it looks really suspect defensively.

WildcatMapleLeafs28 09-29-2013 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Narg98 (Post 71702713)
Maybe the Avs could use him, their D is terrible... but I'm not sure a offensive oriented d-man is the answer.

I've got to say I'm a little suprised ! I really liked him in Colorado, never really paid attention to his stats in Toronto, I just checked... what happend ? 4.2M cap hit...

That's this year's salary. His cap hit is 3.875 , not that it's much better...


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