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BigHabs 10-02-2013 11:24 PM

Purcell to the Habs
 
What would the bolts want from the Habs for him.

He would be ideal with Pacioretty.

Would be complemented well with the Egg line right behind them.

HoseEmAllAround 10-02-2013 11:43 PM

Top 4 D. Each side would add accordingly.

BigHabs 10-03-2013 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by CoopThereItIs (Post 71904737)
Top 4 D. Each side would add accordingly.

Seems like good trading partners.

As Montreal has an abundance of dmen especially when Murray and Emelin are back fulltime.

I think there could be a deal to get something done. Purcell seems like he would be a perfect with Pacioretty and having center them would be Desharnais or Briere.

Pax Macioretty 10-03-2013 12:10 AM

Son of a? We don't need or want Purcell, thank you..

Tampa Bay Kiwi 10-03-2013 12:46 AM

I'd take Pacioretty for Purcell straight up. I would prefer a Dman, something around Tinordi maybe?

couture23 10-03-2013 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by 30GamesIn28Days (Post 71909113)
I'd take Pacioretty for Purcell straight up. I would prefer a Dman, something around Tinordi maybe?

I think he's looking for someone to play with Pacioretty, but the value is pretty even although Pacioretty does have the 'potential' in his favour.

Tinordi for Purcell seems like a good basis, but I think the Habs are pretty high on the guy. They need him for toughness and physicality, something they lack.

sergejean 10-03-2013 12:53 AM

Pacioretty is a proven 30+ goal scorer signed long term to a cap friendly contract. No way he is traded for Purcell.

CanadianSharks 10-03-2013 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 30GamesIn28Days (Post 71909113)
I'd take Pacioretty for Purcell straight up. I would prefer a Dman, something around Tinordi maybe?

Holy **** no to both of those offers. Patches >> Purcell AINEC. Tinordi is FAR too important to our future to give him up for someone as mediocre as Purcell.

couture23 10-03-2013 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by sergejean (Post 71909445)
Pacioretty is a proven 30+ goal scorer signed long term to a cap friendly contract. No way he is traded for Purcell.

He has scored 30 goals once in his career.

Meanwhile, Purcell has scored 50 points, 60 points and had similar production to Pacioretty in the shortened season. I think you're underselling his ability quite a bit.

I know it doesn't make sense for the future of the Canadiens because of Purcell's age compared to Max's.

CanadianSharks 10-03-2013 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by couture23 (Post 71909661)
He has scored 30 goals once in his career.

Meanwhile, Purcell has scored 50 points, 60 points and had similar production to Pacioretty in the shortened season. I think you're underselling his ability quite a bit.

I know it doesn't make sense for the future of the Canadiens because of Purcell's age compared to Max's.

The reasons why Pacioretty holds MUCH more value to us:

Physicality, speed, chemistry, age, contract, scoring ability, potential, locker room presence and producing the same with much worse linemates. From what I know about Purcell, he can produce similar numbers (albeit with much better linemates) but doesn't provide a lot of things that Pacioretty does.

A comparable player to Patches in terms of value is Eberle. I wouldn't do Eberle for Pacioretty, but that's because Patches fills a bigger need while being a similar calibre player.

Bourne Endeavor 10-03-2013 01:33 AM

Beaulieu would be the piece the Habs would shop in any trade like this. Patches and Tinordi are simply untouchable. We an ill-afford to lose the little size and physicality we do have.

Phion Keneuf 10-03-2013 03:21 AM

Patches >> Purcell. And this is coming from a leafs fan.

Jacko95 10-03-2013 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Peso (Post 71903475)
What would the bolts want from the Habs for him.

He would be ideal with Pacioretty.

Would be complemented well with the Egg line right behind them.

How good is Gorges? I have heard different thing about him. Is he a good top4 that could step up if needed or an average top4 that would be better in a smaller role?
If he is able to step up if needed I would absolutly have interest in him.

Purcell is a top50 scorer in the league and that doesn't come for free. Though his value is not has high as for most top50 scorers, its still high. Valuewise Purcell is obviously worth more than Tinordi, but I would be willing to make it as tinordi would be a great fit for us. And otherwise I understand the MTL fans that are not willing to trade him because of his potential.

Tampa Bay Kiwi 10-03-2013 04:43 AM

Misread that sorry, thought you were offering Pach. Yzerman isn't going to just give Purcell away for any dman. It would have to be a top4 or a young dman capable of playing in the top-4 as soon as next season. Tinordi is a good start here.

Hugo Sham 10-03-2013 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by 30GamesIn28Days (Post 71909113)
I'd take Pacioretty for Purcell straight up. I would prefer a Dman, something around Tinordi maybe?

hoo boy Pacioretty or Tinordi, probably two of the most untouchable habs outside Galchenyuk and Subban. This will end well :laugh:

Jacko95 10-03-2013 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by CHill Seeker (Post 71915711)
hoo boy Pacioretty or Tinordi, probably two of the most untouchable habs outside Galchenyuk and Subban. This will end well :laugh:

Younstill have to give to get, I absolutly agree Pacioretty has nothing to do in such a deal, but Tinordi is one of only a few guys Tampa would be interested in from Montreal.

Necropolis 10-03-2013 07:07 AM

I think Gorges for Purcell would be the kind of deal that could happen. A 28 year old top-6 offensive winger for a 29 year old defensive top-4 D. I don't know though do you guys want to move Gorges and I also don't know if you really need Purcell.

dukeofjive 10-03-2013 07:16 AM

Except subban i think most habs defensmen have taken a step back, Georges used to be a shot blocking machine, he still blocks but seems to have lost a step, it could be the fact that our def isint that great, so im not sure anymore on georges value

loadie 10-03-2013 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jacko95 (Post 71915945)
Younstill have to give to get, I absolutly agree Pacioretty has nothing to do in such a deal, but Tinordi is one of only a few guys Tampa would be interested in from Montreal.

There's no deal to be made if it includes Tinordi. He's the type of DMan the Habs have been needing for a long time and to trade him for Purcell isn't going to happen. Maybe something around Beaulieu or Diaz. Tinordi is just too valuable to the Habs.

Jacko95 10-03-2013 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by loadie (Post 71916083)
There's no deal to be made if it includes Tinordi. He's the type of DMan the Habs have been needing for a long time and to trade him for Purcell isn't going to happen. Maybe something around Beaulieu or Diaz. Tinordi is just too valuable to the Habs.

No interest in either honestly. We have no use for either we need a more physical, defense first defender. So either Tinordi (which you guys said is not available) or Gorges if he is as good as I heard. So is he any good ? :)

HoseEmDown 10-03-2013 08:43 AM

Purcell + Aulie for Tinordi + De la Rose?

Habs get better for a run now while Tampa adds nice pieces for the future.

BigDaddyLurch 10-03-2013 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by HoseEmDown (Post 71917281)
Purcell + Aulie for Tinordi + De la Rose?

Habs get better for a run now while Tampa adds nice pieces for the future.

Any deal involving Tinordi would have to involve a big upgrade in an area where the Habs are lacking, this doesn't do that...can't see it happening.

Crimson Skorpion 10-03-2013 09:52 AM

Habs don't have the assets to acquire someone like Purcell.

Top 4 D? Not a chance. Any one of the top four gets moved and the already-crippled Habs defense becomes more crippled.

Pacioretty straight up? Not for Purcell.

2016cupwinners 10-03-2013 11:16 AM

How about Jacob De La Rose and a 2nd. Tampa could use a C prospect with some size, now that Lecavalier is gone.

Quares27 10-03-2013 12:12 PM

I still think something around Gionta for Malone makes sense for both teams


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